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The Ending - Spoiler


Maybe I missed it, but what happened to Yasmine in the end, and why did Ladj make Bart get out of the car. I thought it was to save Yasmine, but then Bart took off into the woods and went back to the house like a moron.

Also, how was it possible for Joseph to be able to walk again after he was run over at about 40mph?

And finally, a random question: Does anyone think Bart deserved what he got for being such a perv and punk? i.e. taking advantage of Yasmine while she was sleeping during the car ride, being the annoying drunk guy at the club, trying to steal Eve from Thai, always being pissed because he gets denied by girls and calls them teases?

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the thing in the car was a dream.

he didn't steal eve from thai, none of these guys were couples. this was just a weekend fling.

the only person that would have REMOTELY deserved what bart got would have been ladj for 1) ditching yasmine and 2) cheating on his girlfriend

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the thing in the car was a dream.


Hmmm. How is it a dream? After they run over Joseph the screen fades to black and then Jasmine is on the road shouting at the car. Bart tells Ladj to stop but INSTEAD of walking back through the road he goes into the woods straight back into the house. Why?

I thought, maybe that's because Bart apparently just heard her scream, and remember his eyes were not in good shape since the bar fight. He went into the house because he thought Joseph was dead. But I mean, if he heard her on the side of the road, why would he go all the way back to the house?? He doesn't even try to look for her before heading into the woods.




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My take on it was that the story Captain Creepy Ass told at dinner was true. That was his sister that was pregnant, and he made the deal with Satan to be invincible. That was the purpose of the doll, the 'gift' Satan told him to give to the child.
Cool movie.

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Yep, that's it! He was basically telling HIS story and it was probably a few months old. Given that the sis gave birth that midnight on the dang floor! So for Joseph, getting hit by Ladj's car probably just annoyed him. LOL

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No disrespect but.....well duh!

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ok, the whole plot of the film was about how Joseph made a deal with the Devil to be invincible and the reprecussions of doing so.
Everything that happened was because of Josephs deal and him trying to please the devil.
He was unharmed and had great stregnth in beating on all of them becauswe he was INVINCIBLE! clearly noone could have walked away or even have been alive from that car crash otherwise.


In my opinion Bart wasn't what you would exactly call a likeable character but I don't think he deserved to have his eyes gauged out just for having somewhat of a bad attitude. I think the film focused more on these certain things happening to him simly because he was te main character.

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My take on it was that the story Captain Creepy Ass told at dinner was true. That was his sister that was pregnant, and he made the deal with Satan to be invincible. That was the purpose of the doll, the 'gift' Satan told him to give to the child.
Cool movie.
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This man speaks the truth.

(I thought it was fairly obvious...he & his "wife" were nearly identical)

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ok, the whole plot of the film was about how Joseph made a deal with the Devil to be invincible and the reprecussions of doing so.
Everything that happened was because of Josephs deal and him trying to please the devil.
He was unharmed and had great stregnth in beating on all of them becauswe he was INVINCIBLE! clearly noone could have walked away or even have been alive from that car crash otherwise.


My take on it was that the story Captain Creepy Ass told at dinner was true. That was his sister that was pregnant, and he made the deal with Satan to be invincible. That was the purpose of the doll, the 'gift' Satan told him to give to the child.
Cool movie.
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This man speaks the truth.

(I thought it was fairly obvious...he & his "wife" were nearly identical)



I totally agree to both of you. It really was obvious, that Joseph was no "normal" man.
At the latest when he threw one of the guys several metres across the room; and when he was creeping at the wall, spying through the window and then vanished within seconds - it was clear that he was no normal human being anymore.
And then it was clear to me that the story at the dinner table was about himself.

I liked that movie a lot.



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Hm... Cant believe why so many ppl coulnt understand the plot. Joseph made the deal with Satan, so "Satan" *beep* his sister, I dont know what does eve has to do with joseph, is his daughter or something?... anyway this "ritual" happens every christmas, this time was bart's time, i mean the devil wanted bart to be part of the exceptional toy. Then i noticed something at the end, in some part joseph says "then i *beep* my sister" so joseph was once possesed by the devil itself, jasmine jasmine.... what happened to jasmine, ladj was too scared just wanted to get out of there, so bart went back to search for jasmine and didnt find her, so he went back to the house (notice that bart never saw what happened inside the house cause he was with the dogs) then is when joseph gets him, and bart starts to have some kind of regretions and allucinations when he woke up he didnt had eyes :D so here is the deal, joseph is invincible and to keep the power he needs to give a new toy every year to a new child because the devil takes the child every year :) thats what i think :P

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I agree with most of what you said. But I don't think that Satan takes the children. I felt like all the messed up and inbred kids living in the area were attempts at creating the devil-child that didn't succeed, like the Harry Potter lookin' kid. Also, if you watch the birthing scene closely -I should say watch the clock in the birthing scene- the baby doesn't drop until after the last strike of midnight. So, whether this attempt will be successful this time is in question as well.

And someone else asked about Bart's dog, if it was still alive or not? While we don't get a definitive answer, I think that because Bart left the dog before getting in the car tells us enough. If the dog had hope of survival, I am sure Bart would have loaded him into the car, as well.

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I have one big question?

What about Yasmine in the ending?

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I figured she ran away in the woods somewhere.
It's weird that they didn't bother with her. I wonder if they closed her story in the script but didn't think it fit into the film when editing..

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IMO Yasmine was there so when he goes back to the house and get knocked out by vincent... they show Bart back to the earlier scene and him being taken to the clinic... just to make the audience think hey u know wat it was all from the bottle knocking his head.. none of this *beep* happened... and then he goes 4 the kiss and itz transVINCENT... pluck... back to reality Barts eyes are out Doll got eyes... FIN

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Sorry - bt I am amazed how people can watch a movie and miss whole chunks of dialogue that explain many things - yes, Joseph made a deal with the devil and he was invincible and as for the young guys being "unlikable", I really feel the director was trying to make a statement on our whole culture - how many youth embrace the gangsta rap lifestyle and it's all posing and tough talk and sex and drugs and alcohol and violence, so I think it was important to have the characters like that and then they were seduced into this evil world - evil begats evil. The movie was powerful and effective - flawed but still effective.

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I definetely agree. IMO the film is much more flawed than many here would aknowledge: sometimes ridiculous (at least for a French viewer), sometimes inconsistent or disapointing (like the fact that we don't know what happens to Yasmine, nor do we understand if Thyson - the dog - was dead or not, etc, etc.)
NEVERTHELESS there's something powerful and appealing in this film — something that apparently got unnoticed so far.
The thing is: it's not only about Joseph and his pact with Satan. From the begining to the end, the director effectively shows us a handful of youth that are quite specifically under the spell of the devil. Indeed, Joseph is by far the less interesting character, maybe due to Cassel's overacting.

Eve is obviously devilish. She is the temptress ("Eve"!), and her role is to bring to Joseph his victims. She deliberately cooperates with him, and in the nightclub she is, so to say, on duty. BTW, the name of the nightclub is "Styxx", a transparent allusion to one of the hell's river. And Eve's only purpose is to drive dumb Barth mad. Remember her smile when the serpent frightens the guys (she is not afraid at all). Remember everything about her that shows that she is pityless, cold, always playing a role.
The same is true, on a lesser lever, with Joseph's niece (red haired, of course, and quite snake-like) — though she is quite useless as a character in the movie (the director seems to have wanted to show as many sexy young girls as possible, regardless of any kind of necessity).

But the trio is — and that's what make the film more that a silly creepy movie — also quite in acquaintance with the devil. Ok, not explicitely so. Not consciously so. But really so. Their behavior. The music they listen to (the scene in the car, when they ride to the countryside, is terrific and horrible, like they are somewhat possessed). They lie, they cheat, they are cruel, stupid, selfish and lecherous.

The only really innocent figure is Yasmine. They abandon her to what they know can only be a tragic fate. She is litteraly sacrified.

My point is not moralistic — nor is the director's point, of course. It's more like "metaphysical sociology" (The major flaw of this film being, apart from a silly script and the overacting of Cassel, the abuse of symbolism). But this depiction of a certain youth obviously points to the presence of evil in many a "accepted" behavior". As is said in the begining, "they know what they are doing" (so, Lord, do not forgive them).

The fact that, for many viewers, the only devilish figure is Joseph is really a shock to me. Like, the rest of the crew are only normal guys! Come on! Focusing on Joseph is missing the only real achievement of this film: showing uncomplacently how parts of "our whole culture", like says howerd, has something to do with Satan. Unconsciously so (because they do not even believe in God, at least the two leads, and Satan is only a laughable superstition). But nonetheless willingly and effectively so.
Sorry for my English being so bad.

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wow that was actually an intelligent post on imdb. you deserve a prize

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Agreed,

According to this French film maker(for this movie anyway), France has their fair share of disturbed, rebellious, disrespectful young adults.

The punks, Bart and Thai, were getting on my nerves so bad, I was actually rooting for Joseph and his family to tear those two punks to pieces. I bet the convenience store clerk was too after that 'gas and dash'.

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Bart & that oriental dude got EXACTLY what they deserved IMO. They were both ma$$holes throughout the whole beginning & middle of the film. I had no pity for them during their respective "payback" scenes.

Yasmine remains unanswered for...even from the director himself.

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Am I the only one to think that all the scenes in the country house are part of a dream and only the disco scenes pertain to reality thus making Yasmine the bait used by joseph to get Bart's eyes and Eve only a fantasy or call it what you will ?

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Nah, he was the less hypocrite guy of all of them, only yasmine and him deserved to live according to horror movies, but in this case the smart guy was the one who survived regardless of being obsessed with religion while cheating on her girlfriend probably all the time, he literally took the chance to run away and then never stopped, not even for Yasmin cos it would of been a risk.

But no, Bart should of lived, if anyone thinks he was a mean guy they just haven´t seen any horror movies at all he was the one with most integrity out of the bunch, people confuse integrity with hypocrisy.

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