*long post* Well, I get it, but… it's just not funny.

Of course, I watched the stupid show, two hours of it. How does it not take itself too seriously? Like I said, how can a show be so pompous as to think that it should do more than entertain and try to shove their ideals down others' throats? This show has a huge ego if it thinks everyone even cares about their religious, political, and social opinions. Television is entertainment, and entertainment gets weaker when it tries to be anything more. I can admit that entertainment can be good if it has a message, but it can't assume its viewers are stupid and beat the audience over the head with its message.
Don't get eliminated!

Oh, I understand, I would have deserved being torn into if that were the case. I guess what I look for in humor is not to make fun of someone for who they are, but at the situation they're in and what it may cause them to do.

Thank you for not just calling me stupid or humourless right off the bat, I agree that people around here could stand to be civil to each other.

Don't get eliminated!

Yeah, especially in the second season, they seemed intent on taking the show whereever they could. The season one closer, Patience, where Clarence went around tormenting the hell out of people on the streets trying to get them to tell the camera how it's important to be patient, all the while interrupting them at every turn and asking for multiple takes until they just couldn't stand it anymore. This show was also a palindrome in that halfway through they play the first half in reverse in an attempt to undo it.

Or the last episode fully dedicated to him asking complete strangers to "make great T.V." because there's nothing good on television anymore.

As far as politics, the Horse Apples episode in particular went after red states and the right, namely the South (an obvious parody of Hee-Haw), but part of the humor of it was that they went after it so hard for so long, trying to go after every obvious stereotype and stigma of conservative rednecks to the point of absurdity.

Its hatefulness was so belligerent that it barely had to be looked at as being much more than some awful experiment, one that worked that did not work for many. I'm the only person I know that enjoyed watching that episode.

I remember their having filmed a smaller episode of Horse Apples as only a part of one episode and the next segment of them showing it to an actual focus group. One of the members had in fact commented on how pretty the girl with the black eye was, as though the black eye hadn't registered at all.

Considering the show as a whole, I think a major intention of Wonder Showzen was much like Andy Kaufman's. It's funny, for instance, to watch Kaufman wrestling women, insulting the South, and all of his "I'm from Hollywood." BS, because being in on the joke means you get to watch those that aren't.

As with Wonder Showzen, I didn't get to see the funniest thing of all: the sight of someone channel surfing at midnight wondering what in the hell they were watching, being confused and possibly afraid because of that.

The ultimate purpose I think was to mix innocent, horrifying, controversial, and often random meaningless imagery so that, by messing with the average person's thought process, they're forced to see things differently. Not so much to push a liberal message or any message (although it's obvious which types of people they favor the least), but more to screw with people's sensibilities by portraying what they consider familiar as having gone terribly awry.

You had mentioned Tim and Eric, and I consider the two programs to be strikingly similar. And even they have been known to describe their show as a nightmare.

My favorite thing from the series was the Inner Child, this boy on a floating silver ball with a silvery-white wig, brushing his hair and admiring himself in a hand mirror, with a strange colorful motion effect and manipulation of what is to be considered his/her voice, which is dubbed. The boy doesn't mouth a word, just wears a grimace of a smile. I don't believe there's a single thing these guys were trying to express in creating this image. Of all the things I've seen on television, it's one of my favorites.

So much of this show was a matter of trying things out and seeing what happens, so you'd be hard pressed to find someone that likes all of it, comes with the territory. But, ultimately, Wonder Showzen is worthy of appreciation for sure.

I think I'll go back and watch that episode now.

Yeah, especially in the second season, they seemed intent on taking the show whereever they could. The season one closer, Patience, where Clarence went around tormenting the hell out of people on the streets trying to get them to tell the camera how it's important to be patient, all the while interrupting them at every turn and asking for multiple takes until they just couldn't stand it anymore. This show was also a palindrome in that halfway through they play the first half in reverse in an attempt to undo it.

Or the last episode fully dedicated to him asking complete strangers to "make great T.V." because there's nothing good on television anymore.

As far as politics, the Horse Apples episode in particular went after red states and the right, namely the South (an obvious parody of Hee-Haw), but part of the humor of it was that they went after it so hard for so long, trying to go after every obvious stereotype and stigma of conservative rednecks to the point of absurdity.

Its hatefulness was so belligerent that it barely had to be looked at as being much more than some awful experiment, one that worked that did not work for many. I'm the only person I know that enjoyed watching that episode.

I remember their having filmed a smaller episode of Horse Apples as only a part of one episode and the next segment of them showing it to an actual focus group. One of the members had in fact commented on how pretty the girl with the black eye was, as though the black eye hadn't registered at all.

Considering the show as a whole, I think a major intention of Wonder Showzen was much like Andy Kaufman's. It's funny, for instance, to watch Kaufman wrestling women, insulting the South, and all of his "I'm from Hollywood." BS, because being in on the joke means you get to watch those that aren't.

As with Wonder Showzen, I didn't get to see the funniest thing of all: the sight of someone channel surfing at midnight wondering what in the hell they were watching, being confused and possibly afraid because of that.

The ultimate purpose I think was to mix innocent, horrifying, controversial, and often random meaningless imagery so that, by messing with the average person's thought process, they're forced to see things differently. Not so much to push a liberal message or any message (although it's obvious which types of people they favor the least), but more to screw with people's sensibilities by portraying what they consider familiar as having gone terribly awry.

You had mentioned Tim and Eric, and I consider the two programs to be strikingly similar. And even they have been known to describe their show as a nightmare.

My favorite thing from the series was the Inner Child, this boy on a floating silver ball with a silvery-white wig, brushing his hair and admiring himself in a hand mirror, with a strange colorful motion effect and manipulation of what is to be considered his/her voice, which is dubbed. The boy doesn't mouth a word, just wears a grimace of a smile. I don't believe there's a single thing these guys were trying to express in creating this image. Of all the things I've seen on television, it's one of my favorites.

So much of this show was a matter of trying things out and seeing what happens, so you'd be hard pressed to find someone that likes all of it, comes with the territory. But, ultimately, Wonder Showzen is worthy of appreciation for sure.

I think I'll go back and watch that episode now.