Third World + Political Handicap


I hate people voting for political reason, not for the film itself.
even it's a emotional true story from a third world with war theme, this film DOSE NOT deserve this high rating.
Totally overrated.

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Romania is a not a third world country...Iraq or Afganistan are third world countries, can you find then on the map?

And it is not a war themed movie. It's a movie about waiting for someone to save you and a love story.

And btw your english SUX. Ignorant!!!

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_world

Besides the fact the the term "Third World" is arogant and outdated, Romania has never been included in this category. See the link above.

About the movie, i think you're getting in wrong.
--"one of the main point of the film is a small man from a helpless country standing up to the mighty American!!!! "--
Yes, it's true. But it's more about disapointment, rather than sanding up. During WW2 the population of Romania expected the americans to come to their protection against the russians. However, because Romania was an ally to the Germans (this was so that the russians would not invade), the americans bombed some strategic oil fields in Romania. In the end, the russians invaded the country and installed communism, which held the country 50 years back. So, you can see the disappointment. In the movie the villagers are quite pro american, although they are presented as naives.

--"if u consider teenage girls spreading heir legs for American GI like they are Hollywood superstar, your concept of LOVE is seriously screwed up, u might wanna consult your shrink on that. --
Now you're just pathetic. Oh, you defender of love, in the true form hollywood shows it.
Of course, it has nothing to do with love. She's a teenager, and she's as stupid as the fat dog from "two stupid dogs". Where did you see a love story in this movie? There are just confused fellings teenagers have, also influenced by the american culture. This movie was nothing about love. At least not in the hollywood, universal, the only thing that matters in life crap way.

--"only thing i know about Romania is their fine female gymnastics in the Olympics.
How ironic they spread their legs so well like the girls with American in the movie. "
American gymnasts are the main competitors for romanian gymnasts. So, according to your logic, your american girls spread their legs pretty well too. Don't know about you, but for me when it comes to women, their nationality is the least of what interests me.

Overall, this movie is good. That's what matters. Apperently you are the one who didn't like it for political reasons, because you are probably sick of everybody blaming the americans for everything. I don't blame you about the sick part, but still this is a good movie.

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OK that third world definition thing backfired on me,
but who even say first or second countries anyway???
To me it's developed nations like US, JAP, western EU block and rest third world, except maybe big, but relatively poor countries like Russia, China, India, Brazil.
OK that's that.

I don't know where u got idea i have expressed prejudices about US.
Of course i have'em, but i didn't express'em in any of my posts.
Only thing i said about it is 'mighty' which is a rather true statement.

Rest of points, we seem at minor perspective difference.
But u didn't have to insult me.

One thing to make clear before u jump all geared up, thou.
I NEVER said this movie is bad or terrible (thou i wouldn't say it's good or liked it),
I ONLY SAID IT IS OVERRATED beyond its artistic value!!!
8.5 is like top 50 IMDB.
Here at IMDB, non Hollywood small budget movie with hint of some kind of IDEA(political, humane, minority, religious, etc) very often do!!!


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on second reading it seems i was right!!!
Romania IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY!!!
below are exact quote from wikipedia
''the term is synonymous with countries in the developing world, independent of their political status.''
''In general, Third World countries are not as industrialized or technologically advanced as OECD countries, and therefore in academia, the current term in use is "developing nation".''

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Sometimes it is hard to believe the nerve of some people.
Not only that you are misinformed but you must insist on making a complete fool of yourself. Have you ever been to a third world country (Nigeria, Uganda... for instance)? Have you ever been to Romania? If it weren't for your lack of interest (or education) Romanians who travel abroad would be spared the humiliation of being explained how to use cutlery or how to switch the lights on and off. Romania is not a third world country. We're not llama herders and we don't live in tepees either. In fact our culture is slowly yet steadily morphing into something worryingly similar to standard American Culture. We've stopped waiting for the Americans since they are already here.

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u are just being stupid.
it's even silly to DEBATE weather Romania is a third world country or not.
Romania IS THIRD WORLD country ACCORDING THE WORD'S DEFINITION.
Go read the link in my post.
it just mean less developed nation.
the term dose not judge otherwise.
u don't have to feel shame for being Romanian or any ocher third world country citizen!!!
just like it's not shame for being poor!!!

i don't understand why the term 'third world' had to be so insulting!!!
calling a handicapped person don't don't mean being mean.
calling a poor the poor not necessarily judge them.
maybe it's self pity and shame.

Romania IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY!!!
below are exact quote from wikipedia
''the term is synonymous with countries in the developing world, independent of their political status.''
''In general, Third World countries are not as industrialized or technologically advanced as OECD countries, and therefore in academia, the current term in use is "developing nation".''
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_world

lol

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Here are some links that may be of help to your understanding of the term "developing country".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developing_world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

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I have absolutely no intention to debate the definition of the term 'developing country'.
If Wiki contradicts itself on similar words, it's their problem.
I've been responding the term 'third world country' posts only BC I used it!!!
Romania is NOT a rich, developed or OECD nation, thus making it a 'THIRD WORLD COUNTRY" according to the Wiki definition.
Moreover I used it to mean more of 'non Hollywood film', not to degrade or insult a whole country.
The girls in the film already did that plenty!!!

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Before YELLING that out loud, you should come to Romania. I do not refer to the countryside, which, indeed is not as developed as other countrysides in foreign countries are, but the big cities (ex. Bucharest, Timisoara, Cluj, Iasi, etc) which ARE almost as developed as any other foreign big city.

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Romania is not a third world country believe you me, and most of all by you terms in a few years usa is going to be a third world country. OK did you know that economists predict that in maximum 10 to 15 years China's economy will overcome Usa's economy?! Also because of the continuous rise of natural resources like natural gas and oil, american economy is going down and Russia's economy is going up, also because of that and not only that THE EU economy got ahead of the American economy, so shall we think that in a few years you will be living in a third world country? Man you are as dumb as *beep* in fact most of the american's are, you only now where iraq is cause you have seen it on the news, let me tell you another reason why you should have known before the gilf wars happen...they are one of the oldest cultures on earth more than 5000 years, very developed in their times also, iraq is one of the biggest countries in the middle east and your american leaders gave billions of your dollar to sadam regime when he was in power. By the way don't brag so much about your english cause it is your native language, and it is the minimum you should know.
American industry is going down, american economy is going down, and most of the common americans are realizing that, but you my friend still think you are on top of the world, and every one else just doesn't matters. By the way Romania is member of the EU, the exact same EU that is the leading economy of the world, so my friens stick to your rednacks and don't talk politics or economy, or anything to your european fellows. You are simply not welcome cause you are dumb and not educated and mostly ignorant

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Hey cooleon, what's up?
I haven't got your point of view...You didn't like the film because Romania is a third world country???
Ok, be it for you
Romania IS A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY!!!
Happy now???
Let me give a news about Romania and its third world country people coz they might be poor but doesn’t mean they're stupid too...You know why? Because they prefer to spend they last coin buying a piece of bread or some milk for their children rather on a ticket for propagandist brain washing Hollywood movie...In fact most of the Romanian cinema halls have closed down lately...And you know what? if people from all of the world(USA especially) did the same we would not be forced to watch and digest again and again the same crap nonsense big budget Hollywood movies...

On the other side, you're are definitely entitled to express your personal negativ view about the movie...It's ok with me.

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OK that third world definition thing backfired on me...
Not the only thing that backfires on you. You can add your ignorance and arrogance to that.
Romania, or whatever this film is based on...
I rest my case

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Yes, sometimes we are a third world country because a rich foreigner can come here and disrespect us, can play by his bloody rules, and can kill without being punished.
But talking about this movie, I’m sure you know difference between fiction and documentary. And this film doesn’t speak about Romania but mostly about humiliation and about the struggle of gaining back the respect.

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Well with the sale of American infrastructure to various regional groups and foreign companies as well as american industry's movememnt to the so called "uncivilsed third world" in ytour terms, America will probably become a third world country in about 10 years too and I can assure you that by that time Romania will have a much higher GDP than america.

As Doiaru said: *beep* USA, *beep* NATO and Bill Clinton(George Bush in this respect) shi pe aia de la Bucuresti!

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Who would rate California Dreamin' high? Loyal followers of said film, right? Romanians, right? But that's really just a side note. What matters is that they love their movie, that it gives them joy to compete (and sometimes win) alongside already established players in the film art. That they feel proud knowing that sometimes "size doesn't matter". It took home the Cannes award and some others too. Didn't it? Isn't that reason enough to love that film and feel proud because of it?

You want a "fairer" rating? Take all the idiots that call a film bad for no reason and get a hundred of them to rate California Dreamin'. Then you'd have your 'fair' rating based on the principle of the least common denominator (the faint of mind in the audience).

Other than that, try thinking outside the box. Is it the quantity of ratings that interests you, or the quality of those who rate? Try interpreting the rating in the context of those who rate. Romanians think this movie is great, dealing with issues that are important to them. Why not try to understand those issues? The prostitution that they go through for odinary joes that happen to grace their backwater village with their presence. The stupidity, the reverence towards Americans - all a product of the marketing of the American image. Superman and sh*t.

Enough rambling for tonight, I hope I succeeded in planting a bit of thought into all of this without crying 'Sacrilege! We are not third world!'.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World
Romania seems to be a developping country, in the cold war it was considered part of the second world

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