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Yes eargon and eldest are similar to star wars and empire. But these first 2 need more humor. To make them work we need to care about the characters and add humor to make them feel human. Brisngar is the best book of the series cuz it was new not similar to Star Wars and we focused on the characters. That movie has potential. I'm worried about inheritance that book was bad. But again for these to work they have to be character drivin not really plot drivin. Yes have a plot but to take away us noticing how similar it is to Star Wars make it character drivin .

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Inheritance was bad? Explain.

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Inheritance did introduce us to a dragon-killing weapon in the first few chapters when there was no mention of such an object was ever mentioned earlier in the series, making it a Deus Ex Machina. Inheritance introduced us to other dragon eggs that were never mentioned and basically makes Saphira less important since she is no longer the last female of her species.

Inheritance also did a poor job in the last 100 pages with the characters, particularly Aria. Early on in the series we're led to believe she is against becoming the leader of her people, finding herself apart from them because of her duties carrying Saphira's egg and interacting with humans and dwarves for so long. Then when she gets a dragon of her own and the pestering of her people, she decides to become queen.

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Inheritance did introduce us to a dragon-killing weapon in the first few chapters when there was no mention of such an object was ever mentioned earlier in the series, making it a Deus Ex Machina.


Correct me if I'm wrong here, it's been 2 years since I've finished the series, but if we are talking about the spear could pierce a dragon then I'm sure it was introduced in Brisinger and not Inheritance? Nevertheless it wasn't too far fetched considering the series took a great deal of inspiration from the LOTR, there obviously had to be some sort of weapon that could be used to fight dragons without another dragon,or magic so I wouldn't call it a deus ex machina.

Inheritance introduced us to other dragon eggs that were never mentioned and basically makes Saphira less important since she is no longer the last female of her species.


Why spoil such a nice twist? And we don't know if she's the last female, or is she? But I wouldn't say that mattered after Thorn hatched and Saphira was no longer the only dragon flying about(not to mention the gold dragon I forget his name), it wouldn've been a bit cliche for their to be just two left sealing their fates.

Inheritance also did a poor job in the last 100 pages with the characters, particularly Aria. Early on in the series we're led to believe she is against becoming the leader of her people, finding herself apart from them because of her duties carrying Saphira's egg and interacting with humans and dwarves for so long. Then when she gets a dragon of her own and the pestering of her people, she decides to become queen.


Ditto. That ending with Arya felt a bit rushed and tacked on, and the dragon hatching for her was just way too soon. Saphira falling in love literally right after didn't help either. A better ending would've been Arya not taking up the crown and protecting the egg, with the book vaguely hinting that it might hatch, perhaps during the last paragraph. It felt like the author decided to make the ending bittersweet after the original was too depressing which was fine but could've been executed better IMO.

Inheritance bad? No. Disappointing? Maybe a little, but it was still a great read even with the bittersweet ending. The series still remains my favorite of all time. Although I should re-read them to see if they still hold up.

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Sorry for the late response, I haven't been keeping up with posts I've made here. I'm not agreeing with OP in saying that Inheritence is bad, it just had some minor flaws that could be worked out.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, it's been 2 years since I've finished the series, but if we are talking about the spear could pierce a dragon then I'm sure it was introduced in Brisinger and not Inheritance? Nevertheless it wasn't too far fetched considering the series took a great deal of inspiration from the LOTR, there obviously had to be some sort of weapon that could be used to fight dragons without another dragon,or magic so I wouldn't call it a deus ex machina.


It was introduced in the first few chapters of Inheritance by the people of the city they were attacking, using it on Saphira. I do understand that the Elves did need weapons like that in the war long ago, but I would have seen them destroying all the weapons after that due to their respect of dragons. In reality the spear was never needed, it could have been a duel against Saphira and the other dragon, maybe even having Thorn join in the battle and overcoming the corrupted dragon.

Why spoil such a nice twist? And we don't know if she's the last female, or is she? But I wouldn't say that mattered after Thorn hatched and Saphira was no longer the only dragon flying about(not to mention the gold dragon I forget his name), it wouldn've been a bit cliche for their to be just two left sealing their fates.


I should have put that under the spoiler tag, but the OP suggested they read the books. It was stated in either Eragon or Eldest that Saphira was the only female dragon, the other two were males. Which was the whole point of trying to free the other eggs for Saphira, so they wouldn't be corrupted and she would be the new mother of her entire species.

Ditto. That ending with Arya felt a bit rushed and tacked on, and the dragon hatching for her was just way too soon. Saphira falling in love literally right after didn't help either. A better ending would've been Arya not taking up the crown and protecting the egg, with the book vaguely hinting that it might hatch, perhaps during the last paragraph.


I actually kind of thought that the egg might hatch for Arya, not because it would make a happy ending or anything, but because of reports from the author saying that he made Arya to try and even the grounds between Eragon and her, so that was eventually the last step.

It felt like the author decided to make the ending bittersweet after the original was too depressing which was fine but could've been executed better IMO.


Where did you hear about an original ending being depressing? The only hint that was given in the first book was the vision/dream that Eragon had:

"He watched as a group of people on proud horses approached a lonely river. Many had silver hair and carried tall lances. A strange, fair ship waited for them, shining under a bright moon. The figures slowly boarded the vessel; two of them, taller than the rest, walked arm in arm,. Their faces obscured by cowls, but he could tell that one was a woman. They stood on the deck of the ship and faced the shore. A man stood alone on the pebble beach, the only one who had not boarded the ship. He threw back his head and let out a long aching cry. As it faded, the ship glided down the river, without a breeze or oars, out into the flat, empty land. The vision clouded, but just before it disappeared, Eragon glimpsed two dragons in the sky."

It's suggested that the Elves and dragons are leaving (very similar to LOTR), but it's obvious from the final book now that it is not the case.

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