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Why does Segal hit the guy in 1st scene?


What baffled me - why does Segal hit the guy asking whether he could teach him splitting the water melon so hard against the wall that he fell unconscious in the first scene of the movie? Seems a bit 'overreactive' to me... 8-}

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My guess is that it was supposed to be a sort of, careful what you wish for, type of thing. But it just came out looking like Seagal just likes pounding on his students.

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It was a stupid scene. I took it to be they tried to show he was an authentic teacher of martial arts in the old tradition (and he knows his stuff). But no good teacher would behave in such a way towards their student.

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/Agreed

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Really! That is irresponsible behavior for a martial teacher to say the least! I've been in martial arts for over 25 years and am happy to say I've never witnessed such a stupid act. I'm astonished that Segal allowed that scene in the movie at all. What was the point? The student wasn't even out of line in his question, and even if he was it wouldn't have justified such a response. Deliberately risking injury to a student like that in real life would be asking for big trouble, possibly a lawsuit or even loss of the whole business.

Also, while we're on the subject, can't they find some larger students for him to beat up on? He's like twice the size of everybody in his class and it just would be much more impressive if he threw around somebody his own size. Sometimes I wonder what they were thinking when they wrote some of these class scenes in this and others of his movies.

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Uh, guys... if you wanna talk about "traditional" Taoist teachers, like Yang Lu Chan (Yang the invincible), he locked his own son in a room for years on end. That son ended up being his most successful student. No, this is not imbellished either. Yang was known for being a cruel teacher. Many traditional teachers were. Again, Yang, in order to perfect Dim Mak, killed over 200 prisoners. He used them as "test subjects." They didn't have human rights back then. Not to mention, ruthless behavior was revered. Moreso in Taoist arts than Shaolin. Bagua is called "the art of overkill." The creator of White Eyebrow (which is part internal, and Taoist) Pai Mei, was also known as a torturor. Do some research. This isn't bullsh*t.

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So? This means it's ok for a teacher to abuse his students?

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Seagal was trying to prove a point to the student: "Be careful what you wish for" The student asked and so Seagal delivered what he received...

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This just seemed so out the blue and pointless it actually had me laughing lol.

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