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Question- Why did Noone lie on the Airplane?


Why did Noone lie that he had a 14-year-old son to the stranger-passenger who sat next to him?

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he wouldnt mind if he was percieved as being gay seeing as though he was!

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I think the reason he lied was because he was feeling very lost and disconnected in his own life and wanted to make a connection with the other passenger. One human being to another. It was a warm fuzzy fantasy that lasted a few minutes.

I felt bad that he got caught so quickly.

It also seemed to tie in with the plot in a subtle way. He used an imaginary boy to get attention the same way Donna did. And for the same reason.

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I see, thanks for the explanations.

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I think one of the reasons was also what Jess accused him of. Always making up things and embellising them. Sure, it was also to avoid the whole gay discussion with the lady. But it was more of a thrill for him to leap outside his body and be someone else for a minute. That's the curse of writers.

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I believe it also has a lot to do with his want to have a child. He mentions it to Jess earlier in the film, and I think Gabriel sees Pete as a potential son - not in the legal sense, but someone he could nurture and talk to about life - so pretends to the woman on the plane that Pete is his son, therefore emulating his own wants and needs. It's easy to lie to strangers, and Gabriel has been doing it for years with his stories.

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I honestly thought he lied just because he didn't want to say:
Hi! I'm a 40 year old homosexual, and I'm going a long way to see a certain 14 year old boy, and be alone with him for a period of time! Did I mention I'm not in a relationship?

Some people might get the wrong impression about what his intentions were.

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He was a storyteller. He told a story.

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QUOTE "I believe it also has a lot to do with his want to have a child. He mentions it to Jess earlier in the film, and I think Gabriel sees Pete as a potential son - not in the legal sense, but someone he could nurture and talk to about life - so pretends to the woman on the plane that Pete is his son, therefore emulating his own wants and needs. It's easy to lie to strangers, and Gabriel has been doing it for years with his stories."

That's it. No need to search for another reason. Especially the need to avoid the gay-thing is certainly not the reason. If he wanted to do that he coud've just said that he was on a business trip.


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Yes, he was trying to validate himself in some way, concerning what Jess said to him, but also he was trying to put himself in Donna's place to see how easily a lie can be told and how readily he believed it himself. Realizing this, I'm sure he understood what Jess was saying.

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I believe it also has a lot to do with his want to have a child - Thats what I thought, Gabriel has always wanted a son and sees Pete as a son-like figure. So by telling the woman on the plane he was his son made it alot more real to him since she believed it was true. Also it probably has alot to do with the theme of storytelling, embellishing as well.

His face said "Kill Me!", his hat said "HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!"

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I believe it also has a lot to do with his want to have a child. He mentions it to Jess earlier in the film, and I think Gabriel sees Pete as a potential son - not in the legal sense, but someone he could nurture and talk to about life - so pretends to the woman on the plane that Pete is his son, therefore emulating his own wants and needs. It's easy to lie to strangers, and Gabriel has been doing it for years with his stories.


This. It's more or less what I was going to write.

ROCK STARS HAVE KIDNAPPED MY SON

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In the book, which was 1000 times better than the movie, the relationship between Pete (is that his name, I forgot already) and Noone went on for a long time before he went out to Wisconsin. The kid asked if he could call him dad. Then whenever he called him on the phone he'd say "hi dad." No idea why they left all that out of the movie, but then kept it in on the airplane scene. Weird.

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It's what he does professionally (or that's what I gathered). He weaves fictions. He lies.

I thought the scene was meant to demonstrate that he too lies (when he doesn't have to), using props at hand to support his story, to make himself and the listener feel better. This is what Donna Logand does but to a much more extreme degree.

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It's very simple, it is meant to forshadow what is going to happen in the movie

Moja Polowa Jablka

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I think it was to renforce the point made at the beginning at throughout the movie that Noone was a story teller who often changed details. Like he says in the start that he was like a magpie who took the shiny bits and left the rest. It might also have been to show that he had trouble telling the truth from fiction.

A lot of people think it is okay to lie to strangers and really embellish your life story because they think they will never meet again. Sort of like in some of those old Vegas commercials where the woman keeps introducing herself and her friend with a different name.

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Some interesting perspectives on such a small scene.

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It really is in the book.
He calls him dad, Gabriel always wanted a son. The bond they have feels like father and son to them so he really feels like being an "emotional" dad to Pete

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Funny, there are a lot of gay people who lie, their whole
lives are lies. Look at Larry Craig, and the many Republican
polticians who seem to love to make strong anti-gay statements
when they are gay themselves.

I felt ripped off that this whole movie was about gays and I
don't think it said anything about that on the DVD cover.
I just thought it was a mystery movie and watching it it
was all about gays. At least they should say something about
the spin of the movie I think. It wasn't a bad movie, that
just bothered me.

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I reckon he wanted to see what it was like to lie and be a different person, like how the lady duped him, so he wanted to see what it was like to be in her shoes.

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Feeling a tad homophobic are we? Sorry, I couldn't resist. I really don't see where you get that this film is "all about gays" The main character happened to be gay, that's it.
His homosexuality was a character point nothing more. The story was about his life unraveling, and his feeling disconnected until he began to feel a connection with the kid who really didn't exist. It's kind of parallel to his life.

I may not agree with your opinion, but I will defend to the death your right to disagree!

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Oh dear... here we go again.

"Homophobia" is a non-word - a propaganda tool contrived by homosexuals to label anyone who disagrees with their sexual deviation as the deviant, having some kind of unnatural fear or hatred. And that is regardless of the person's actual reasons for disagreeing, whether they be moral grounds or simply the established and proven devastation it unleashes on human health.

So "No"... we aren't "being a tad homophobic". The movie and the acting were sheer brilliance, and I wasn't going to raise the homosexuality issue, but I agree that if a movie is going to have homosexuality or any other sexual deviation as a central theme (which this movie does and portrays brilliantly, as far as it goes) that the viewer has a right to be forewarned. In this instance it was hidden under a vague tag, "mild themes" - whatever THAT means.

There IS an agenda, and as incredible as it would have sounded to most people a half a dozen decades ago, the agenda is to condition people into believing that nature didnt quite get it right and that homosexuality is just another equally valid "orientation" - nothing unnatural or "different" about it. Nothing to emphasize or single out - unless of course its the homosexual doing the emphasis!

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