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She's handing the answer to him on a plate


Wouldn't any sensible person realise she wasn't blind after she says that the dark green jumper would match the colour of his eyes, she just told him that she only has a few recollections of sight in her early age so how would she be able to make the assumption what dark green is.

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See now if you'd have said "How would she know that that particular shade of green would match the eyes of someone she had never seen the eyes of" it would have been more intelligent.

Giving him examples of her only memories of having sight are not examples of the only thing she saw but of her memory of the sort of age at which she "lost her sight". I think its fairly easy to presume that any child with an IQ higher than 1 can identify the colour green, dark or otherwise.

However knowing that the colour would match "Petes" eyes would take a bit more believing but then I'm going to guess that when you're stuck in the basement with a slightly creepy woman whilst your mind wonders over and over whether or not the child actually exists might be enough of a distraction to not really notice.

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Or the kid told her that his eyes were dark green.

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I thought the moment he started to turn around while she was still taking her clothes off and she told him "Not just yet-" was the giveaway that she wasn't blind.

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I thought the moment he started to turn around while she was still taking her clothes off and she told him "Not just yet-" was the giveaway that she wasn't blind.


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I thought the moment he started to turn around while she was still taking her clothes off and she told him "Not just yet-" was the giveaway that she wasn't blind.

This did not happen in the version I saw. In the version I saw she told him to turn around before she changed sweaters and again when she had finished changing. Then after she got upset and called him a weirdo she told him to turn around a third time and walked up the stairs. However, she did say "You better not be peeking" but that's the closest it got to what you were saying.

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This did not happen in my version either.
I just played the scene again.

In fact, pretty much the opposite happened.
AFTER he turned around, she said,
"Okay,"
(he turns around to face her... then 1 or 2 seconds AFTER he is facing her,
she says) "Turn around."

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Yeah, that, and I'm pretty sure she saw him in the diner.



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Well didn't you no that blind people have really good senses, their ears are hyper sensitive as not having eyes does mean your other senses kick in. And she may have pretended to be blind but by asking Gabe to turn around she didn't want him to see her naked breasts, can't fault her for that. But I already knew by that stage she was pulling a munchhosen it was easy to see, pardon the pun :)

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Remember the first scene with Donna in the diner. When she allows the waitress to hug her guide dog, this alerted me to the fact she was NOT blind. You never pat or play with a guide dog while it is working! Also Donna looks through the opaque glass at Gabriel. The director gives a big hint here. Gabriel does not want to accept the reality that Peter does not exist and that Donna is not what she appears to be.

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by asking Gabe to turn around she didn't want him to see her naked breasts, can't fault her for that.

Except that she knows he's gay and wouldn't get anything out of seeing them.

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I wonder if blind people (born blind) have the same issues about being seen, though. Sight and seeing need not have the same dynamics at all.

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She wasn't born blind -has memories of sight in her early childhood.

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It was part of her act. At no time did she expose her breasts. Hey, all she did was change a jumper and she had thick and modest clothing under it.

Incidentally, the homosexuality of an onlooker would have little, if any bearing on whether a woman wants to retain her modesty or not. It is a person's own modesty that motivates their desire for privacy, not what they might think someone else will get out of looking at them and its quite normal for people to not want to expose their bodies to anyone of either gender.

Additionally, had the woman been blind it would be quite reasonable for her to have heard his movements as he began to turn around, and to react.

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Actually, it's very much a matter of conditioning and culture. In other cultures it's quite normal not to care. Scandinavians routinely sauna together in the nude, and most of Europe has places where nudity is optional. In other countries still, the regions that must be covered are different from ours. In most cultures that care at all, the restrictions are stronger between the sexes than within a sex, and the issues within groups of one sex are probably quite different from those within groups of the other.

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Yeah thats true, You have a point there

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If you have the DVD, check out the deleted scene. Noone discovers she's not really blind. Plus, she gives it away at least twice when she looks him directly in the face at the restaurant and at the end when she's leaving the motel.

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Not to mention she just happened to know it was him who was standing outside her house when she came home from the diner.He could've been anybody.

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Not to mention she just happened to know it was him who was standing outside her house when she came home from the diner.He could've been anybody.

I wondered about that too. Donna did say that the guy at the mail place had warned her that he was there, so I guess (if she had really been blind) she just assumed it was him.


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