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This film made me STOP trying to download movies.




I had been waiting for two days for the film to completely load and WHOOOPS!! It turns out to be F*ing GAY PORN!!!! Never again.....DARN YOU MATTHEW BARNEY!!!! Why are your films so hard to REACH!!

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Try Demonoid or Cinematik you can download it as a .iso and burn it straight to DVD in good quality.

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or we could NOT download?

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Without stating the obvious, why not? Forgive me, but it's not my intention to be facetous. Cinema costs here where i live are extortionate et al.

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Hey, if they're not going to put out a DVD and hardly ever screen the damn thing, they're asking for downloading.

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rich people art.

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"or we could NOT download?"

or we could learn how not to be a moron and download gay porn instead of what we're searching for. it's not hard.. just follow these steps:

one: cut a hole in a box.
two: put your junk in that box.
three: make her open the box.

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Yes...please share then how we can watch this when it's not for sale on DVD, not being shown on tv, or screened in theaters?

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Not to be facetious, but you could get some friends together, rent it and show it locally, maybe through your local library or arts council... Or try negotiating with your local art house to have a showing.

If you do it right, you will most likely cover any costs.

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I'm in the States, and my library wouldn't do the work, either - but they do have a venue, equipment, and the appropriate licenses to show films (and in fact don't allow admission fees).

In fact, they do it all the time; there are several local film historians and others interested in film who put programs together, and the library shows films several times a month. I got to see Let It Be - which won't be on DVD anytime soon - that way.

Even if your library doesn't have licenses, they have a rent-free venue. You start there and you work out the rest. You go to foundations and studios and government agencies for money and permission to show the film for free (or a nominal cost), and you beg, steal, and borrow to put everything together.

How do you think college film societies show films? They hustle and they become producers.

My point to the other post was: make it happen, instead of talking about how the movie isn't available.

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That is not my responsibility.

Then you shouldn't complain if you can't see it easily - and as it was meant to be seen (on a big screen).

If the creators intend for a film to profit, they must make it available

Given the release and distribution around this movie, I doubt Matthew Barney intended for the film to make a profit. He's an artist with personal wealth (*and* clout, separate from Bjork), so he can make all the artistic statements he wants to without looking for money to fund it. Profit has little to do with this.

f I wanted to watch it, I would download/or watch it somewhere online.

...Unless there are no copies (or decent copies) online for you to find. Difficult, but some films have managed to pull it off. (And the OP got suckered into downloading porn...)

Would you really go through all of that just to watch a movie?

I already have. One film project I worked on didn't make a penny, but did show at a major film festival. And I had a great time doing it.

Film historians in MI?-That would be like a muslim in Greenland.

The University of Michigan's film school has a decent reputation. Sooo...


Personally, I haven't seen the movie (although I did see the trailer). It could suck, and Matthew Barney may be full of himself. I don't know. But it's his creation, he doesn't own anybody anything, and on a certain level I actually admire how much he's been able to control the distribution.

...And maybe I'm just more into movies than you are. So be it.

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Ah, now the "pretentious" argument...

As I said - so be it. None of what you said would really stop you if you *really* wanted to find out about the movie. And there is no implicit *right* for anyone to see this movie if Matthew Barney doesn't want them to.

Because I don't want to waste my time organizing completely unecessary nonsense, for a film I know nothing about, I must not be 'that' into films.

...and that's why you're on the Drawing Restraint 9 board, complaining about it. If things are that bad for you, maybe seeing obscure movies shouldn't be that far up on your list of things to worry about. When I was having problems after I'd been downsized, I *wasn't* on here complaining I had a *right* to see a movie, or that the creator / rights owner had an *obligation* to make it available, despite what they wanted.

Although maybe that's how you work out stress, I don't know.

I also *didn't* say you weren't into films. I said if I was willing to actually do things to make sure that they *could* be seen, I might be *more* into them than you are.

We're not going to agree on this. So this is it for me. My original point was: it's easy to complain. It's a little harder to *do* something about it. And if something's not available, and you don't have the time/desire to do something about it, maybe you need to write it off and move on.

(And - I might actually *be* in Ann Arbor pretty soon. And for a movie.)



BTW, according to the official stats, Michigan is #30 (median income). You might want to take up the "poorest state in the country" thing up with the twenty states (and Puerto Rico) below you. I am by no means trying to say that things aren't bad for you - because I *have* been there and individual people have individual things going on - but... c'mon. There are a lot of places having problems right now.

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You can download it online now

BUGS

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I bought it on DVD in an underground record shop while visiting a friend in Austin, TX. For $9 no less. True, it is not an "official" copy, but it is a straight up DVD quality bootleg and not some shaky-hand-camcorder-in-the-back-of-the-theater B.S.

So, there are indeed "Drawing Restraint 9" DVDs for sale out there; they're just hiding... and in Texas of all places!

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It's on youtube.

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And besides, what's wrong with gay porn...?

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It's sooo gay.

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Not to be facetious, but you could get some friends together, rent it and show it locally, maybe through your local library or arts council... Or try negotiating with your local art house to have a showing.



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really? really? i'm not going to go to that much trouble to see a *beep* movie that could turn out to suck.

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hahahaha, it happened to me too! I even began the lyrics of a song based on this event...

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