You gotta be kidding me...*SPOILER*
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There's no way he's mucking pocket Aces...ok ok, so basically he mucked 4.4 mil away.
Give me a break.
he thinks he's good enough to win a lot more later on his career
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shareHe had respect for the old man, thats why he did it.
shareAre you serious? You sound like a typical "dude" who has no scale or understanding of emotion. He obviously respected the man and wanted him to win that title which was the only thing missing out of his life at such a time, whereas he knew at his age that he could definitely win a title later in his young career.
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You do NOT throw away 4.4 million because you like the guy OR think you're gonna win more money in the future OR want him to get his trophy because he is old and won't have a career later on. You just do NOT do that, Its unrealistic, noone ever did it and noone ever will.
I'm pretty sure that if he just wanted to give 4,4 million $ away he could find someone he loves more to give it to. His brother, his parents, his friend, I'm pretty sure that he likes them a damn lot more than the old guy he met 1-2 months ago.
You have absolutely no clue about being a "Real" poker player. Quit saying he is retarted for throwing away pocket Aces because you are taking it completely out of context just to make look as if the guy threw them away because he didn't know better. As people have already pointed out to you he did it to give his mentor one last win as he knew that it could be his last chance.
You can also stop alluding to the money as it is irrelevant at this point as well. You are acting like he didn't win money for 2nd place and you really think that money is a problem for him? It was worth the extra money for his teacher to win another title. If YOU do not understand that then you are to stupid to even be posting on a message board.
Just to set your ridiculous story straight, 70% of the professional poker players in the world have played with each other a lot outside of the tournaments they show you and me on TV. They have been playing long before it was popular. They have enough integrity to know that poker is a game of skill and not who knows who or working teams/cuts. Most of them aren't so desperate for money that they just want half or anything, they play to prove they are the best and play for the titles. The money is nice, but at the point they are at it is not all about the money.
[ Just to set your ridiculous story straight, 70% of the professional poker players in the world have played with each other a lot outside of the tournaments they show you and me on TV. They have been playing long before it was popular. ]
Yes they have, and I can guarantee you that not a single one of them has ever thrown a game because they had respect for the other player, or wanted the other player to win because h or she was old and might not have another chance, or because they thought they could win another tournament. None, not one..ever.
Yes they have, and I can guarantee you that not a single one of them has ever thrown a game because they had respect for the other player, or wanted the other player to win because h or she was old and might not have another chance, or because they thought they could win another tournament. None, not one..ever.
... but none of them have an established mentor or father/son relationship either, so the comparison you're making between real events and the fictional world of the movie is unfair.
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It also made Burt look really bad at end showing he couldn't Tell what Alex had after all.
sharei told my buddy a few weeks ago that he was gonna deal himself pocket aces and he did. he folded them preflop to a raise and a call. said he couldnt play them cause it weirded him out that i called his hand. this was in 10 dollar home league, not a major tournament but still thought it was worth mentioning. first time ive ever seen pocket aces mucked preflop in my life.
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Real poker players (who enter these big tournaments, not the $5 ones), if they are friends/partners, will make some kind of "sharing" deal, from 10% to 50% of each others' take.WPT definitely watches for this activity. I saw a quick warning to players with a relationship when they acted to each others advantage. That was on one of ClubWPT.com's single table tournaments.
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In an attempt to rationalize the fantasy of this movie... remember their deal together - split the winnings 50/50. So, perhaps his rationale to fold at the end was that with 4 million, he's getting his 50% cut anyway.
shareAn easy way to fix it would have been to show them discussing a deal. It's happened at the WSOP and other tourneys, where the final two or three players agree to split the money equally and play just for the title.
Sammy Farha and Chris Moneymaker both discussed that Moneymaker offered Farha a deal at the 2003 WSOP.
If they'd shown a sequence like that, where they agreed to split the combined money for 1st and 2nd, maybe the kids play is a little more clear at the end, as he's not giving up 4 million dollars, he's just giving up the title.
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