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$50 says Beihn dies in this...

posted 19 years ago by dude_love
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Why? Because the poor bastard is always getting killed off.

[–] bola2021 19 years ago

You'll probably win the bet, as Biehn is the antagonist/villian. But maybe there is some hope just in case the film does well at the HK box office and there is talk of a sequel. His character, Petros Davinci, is the head of a terrorist/gangster group, so maybe only some members of the gang will be killed. Believe or not, he only dies in about 40% of the movies he's in, but that's still too high for me.

[–] dude_love 19 years ago

Believe or not, he only dies in about 40% of the movies he's in, but that's still too high for me.

Really? It feels like more.
Anyway, when he dies in this lets hope he goes down in the blaze of bloody glory.

[–] bola2021 19 years ago

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Anyway, when he dies in this lets hope he goes down in the blaze of bloody glory.
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You can bet on that! He always has great death scenes, except when he's killed off in between sequels as in Alien3. I hope he doesn't get killed, but the odds are against it.

[–] dude_love 19 years ago

His death in The Rock was awesome!

His death in Alien 3 (Even though the movie itself is greatness IMO) sucked ass.

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[–] lord_zeratul86 17 years ago

Actually in Aliens 3 he is not part of the movie.
In C&C Tiberium Sun VG as Commander Michael McNeil he did survive but in the expansion Firestorm he dies in the beginning following the Kodiak crash (in the novel Tiberium Wars he revives but yet it is not implied how he survived)

YES Michael Biehn dies a lot his best death scenes were the Rock and that movie.

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[–] swwong 18 years ago

I have watched the movie over the weekend. What a blast! Anyway, to answer the question of whether he survives, it can be either way - I think. Depending on whether a sequel will be made...

[–] jng1027 18 years ago

That's what I think too. He's as seriously injured as Vanness and Vanness survives, so why can't he?

[–] bola2021 18 years ago

Ah, so another ambiguous ending with Dragon Squad and whether Michael Biehn's character lives or dies. I can only assume that if Dragon Squad is a hit in HK and the rest of Asia, then maybe there will be a sequel and Petros will have a miraculous recovery. If not, that's the end of it. The other danger as in Aliens to Alien3, the storyline could drastically change and a new set of actors might be involved. From what the reviews have said though the bad guys, Petros Davinci's squad is much more exciting than the Interpol team. Very interesting!

[–] ag3nt_sno6 18 years ago

Sorry guys, its just the films ive seen of MB he dies.
Oh and aliens he lives but dies in the nxt part mmm?

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[–] bola2021 18 years ago

Thanks for the update, Kaze22. Did you see it in the theatre or on DVD? I'm still waiting for the film's release in the US, either in theatres or on DVD.

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[–] bola2021 19 years ago

SzyKnows - I've tried to do the body count too. Here's my added contribution to your list already started.

Color key: green - lives, red-dies, purple - don't know

1. Dragon Squad (2005) (filming) .... Petros Davinci
2. "Hawaii" (2004) TV Series .... Sean Harrison
3. The Legend of Butch & Sundance (2004) (TV) .... Mike Cassidy
4. Borderline (2002/I) .... Det. Macy Kobacek
5. "Adventure Inc." (2002) TV Series .... Judson Cross
6. Clockstoppers (2002) .... Henry Gates
7. Megiddo: The Omega Code 2 (2001) .... David Alexander
8. The Art of War (2000/I) .... Robert Bly
9. Cherry Falls (2000) .... Sherrif Brent Marken
10. Chain of Command (2000) .... Craig Thornton
11. Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun (1999, vg) .... Michael McNeil
12. American Dragons (1998) .... Det. Tony Luca
13. Susan's Plan (1998) .... Bill
14. "The Magnificent Seven" (1998) TV Series .... Chris Larrabee
15. Silver Wolf (1998) .... Roy McLean
16. The Ride (1997) .... Smokey Banks
17. Dead Men Can't Dance (1997) .... Hart
18. Asteroid (1997) (TV) .... FEMA Director Jack Wallach
19. The Rock (1996) .... Commander Anderson
20. Crash (1996/II) .... Casey Woods
21. Conundrum/Frame by Frame(1996) (TV) .... Det. Stash Horak
22. Mojave Moon (1996) .... Boyd
23. T2 3-D: Battle Across Time (1996) (uncredited) .... Kyle Reese
24. Jade (1995) .... Bob Hargrove
25. Blood of the Hunter (1995) .... Blake
26. In the Kingdom of the Blind, the Man with One Eye Is King (1995) .... Jackie Ryan
27. Deep Red (1994) .... Joe Keyes
28. Tombstone (1993) .... Johnny Ringo
29. Strapped (1993) (TV) .... Matthew McRea
30. Deadfall (1993) .... Joe Dolan
31. A Taste for Killing (1992) (TV) .... Bo Landry
32. K2 (1992) .... Taylor Brooks
33. Timebomb (1991) .... Eddie Kaye wounded, but does he die?
34. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) (scenes deleted) .... Kyle Reese he's a dream image in this one
35. Navy SEALS (1990) .... Lt. James Curran badly wounded, but survives
36. The Abyss (1989) .... Lt. Coffey
37. Rampage (1988) .... Anthony Fraser
38. In a Shallow Grave (1988) .... Garnet Montrose
39. The Seventh Sign (1988) .... Russell Quinn
40. Aliens (1986) .... Cpl. Dwayne Hicks wounded-not dead, wait for Alien3
41. Deadly Intentions (1985) (TV) .... Dr. Charles Raynor
42. Nacht aus Blei, Die/Night of Lead (1985) (TV) .... Eselein
43. The Terminator (1984) .... Kyle Reese
44. Martyre de Saint Sébastien, Le/The Martyrdom of St. Sebastian(1984) (TV) .... Sébastian wounded by arrows, but recovers?
45. China Rose (1983) (TV) .... Daniel Allen
46. The Lords of Discipline (1983) .... Alexander
47. The Fan (1981) .... Douglas Breen (The Fan)
48. Hog Wild (1980) .... Tim Warner
49. The Paradise Connection (1979) (TV) .... Larry
50. Steeletown (1979) (TV) .... Gibby Anderson, Bill's brother
51. A Fire in the Sky (1978) (TV) .... Tom Rearden
52.Zuma Beach (1978) (TV) .... J.D.
53.Grease (1978) (uncredited) .... Mike, school athlete
54."The Runaways" (1978) TV Series .... Mark Johnson
55.Coach (1978/I) .... Jack Ripley
56.James at 15 (1977) (TV) .... Tony

Here's the tally I get: 8 - don't know, 18 - dies,30 - lives

So, in 18/56 he dies = 32%, and in 8/56 = 14% either it's unclear whether he lives or dies as in Timebomb or I haven't seen that film/show, so I don't know. Even in the worst case, where if all the purples turned to red, the mortality percentage would be 46%, which still is a little under half.

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[–] MrsPadfoot 19 years ago

He doesn't die in Megiddo Code.

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[–] bola2021 19 years ago

Sorry to disagree, MrsPadfoot, but to get through Armageddon, the battle at the end of the world as shown in Megiddo:Omega Code 2, and go to Heaven, you must die first. So Biehn's character, President David Alexander goes through death, then the rapture, and then to Heaven, then be reborn to live in Heaven on Earth, and he must die first to do that.

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[–] Acolytes 19 years ago

He wasn't decapitated in A3. He was impailed by a...Get ready for it...SAFETY beam. Damn the Colonial Marine Corps. makes some good safety stuff.

Must make 'em out of iron{y}.

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[–] BudrodaHooligan 19 years ago

In T2 he's in a dream and not dying, so basicly he lives there.

[–] MovieSwede 19 years ago

Because he was already dead ;)

I have no problem with Michael Biehn dies on the big screen as long as his deathscene is as good as it was in The Rock.

Of course that they killed him off before Alien 3 was the worst mistake fox ever did. The Alien franchise had been much better with Cpl Hicks in more movies.

[–] GoodDogme 19 years ago

For all we know Hicks could have been cloned. It would actually make good sense for a DNA sample of each marine to be stored somewhere, just in case they turn out to be some sort of super soldier, then they can make loads of them. How about clones of Vasquez to :D

[–] cherubim10 19 years ago

Well definitely in terms of his BIGGER movies (Terminator, Tombstone, Aliens, etc.) he dies almost always. His more obscure ones he lives, but nobody really sees those so they get the feeling that he always dies...

[–] herodreamer79 19 years ago

whats funny is how many of the same movies Michael Biehn and Bill Paxton were in together (Abyss, Aliens, Navy Seals, tombstone, terminator...ect ect) and Bill Paxton turned into a huge star...and Michael Biehn hasnt been seen on the silver screen since The Rock

why isnt this guy more famous?

i think Biehn's in need for a Quentin Tarantino career revival.

[–] Werewolf_Reaper 19 years ago

Bill Paxton wasn't in the Abyss and Michael has but not the main role he is a supporting actor in almost every movie he is in and his performances are awesome and he still hasn't got the recognition he deserves

[–] bola2021 19 years ago

herodreamer79 - Michael Biehn has been seen on the silver screen in "The Art of War"(2000) and in "Clockstoppers"(2002). Though he's been in two short lived TV series since then, he hasn't had anything on American screens since Clockstoppers. I hope that Dragon Squad is released in theatres in the U.S. I assume it will be if it is a hit in Asia. Kung Fu Hustle started out as a theatrical release in Asia, then went to the U.S. to selected theatres, and now is in dvd, so it is possible. And I get the feeling that Biehn as the villain Petros DiVinci, dies in this movie, too.

[–] swwong 18 years ago

It's really hard going watching any dying scene from one of my favorite actors. I normally fast forward those scenes... try watching The Ride instead for some heartwarming moments

[–] ag3nt_sno6 18 years ago

Name one film that his actually survided i bet you cant.

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[–] bola2021 18 years ago

You bet wrong...see the list above compiled by Suzy_Knows and myself and you'll find that he only dies about 40% of the time. Here's a short list of movies where he survives - Clockstoppers, Deep Red, Havoc, Lords of Discipline, Aliens, Dead Men Can't Dance. Apparently, he goes out in a blaze of glory and gunfire in Dragon Squad, but he is the antagonist, so what else should one expect. The bad guy has gotta die, right? Even if he is charismatic, charming, and good looking.