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Nicktoons is turning to the Darkside of Cartoons.....


Just like Nick which slowly slipped into crappy shows (Drake & Josh, The Amanda Show, and almost any of their cartoons) When I first "Got" nicktoons (That is I stumbled upon it while flipping through channels) it was pure and good. Full of shows I hadn't seen in years that I had dearly missed (Ren & Stimpy, Angry Beavers, Aaaah Real Monsters) it was great! I loved Nicktoons, then they started putting out their own crap (Napman, all of those goofy "nicktoon" quasi commercial breaks) at the top of the list were two new shows, Kaput and Zosky and Corneil and Bernie. Both of the shows are spawns of Fox Family (ABC family whatever the hell it is now)not to mention compared to the solid gold that is Doug, or Ren & Stimpy the two new shows seemed like they had been done before, not to mention the Animation looked really basic compard to say Aaah Real Monsters. Now they're pluggin' Pelswick and Animaniacs, and worst still Yakkity Yak. My guess is soon nicktoons will only have new (crappy) shows on there with all of the old stuff late at night, hopefully Lewis Trondheim and Stephan Franck will go back to Quebec and leave nicktoons the hell alone.

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1 out of 2 isn't too bad. Kaput and Zosky sucks crap. I mean fleas? What the hell? My guess is that they were trying to do a spin-off of those leeches that you'd occasionally see on Spunky. The only annoying thing about Corneil and Bernie is that thing they do when they talk. How can you "s" and have your tongue stick through your teeth?! It aggrivates the hell out of me.

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You sir (or madam, I don't really know), are gravely mistaken. Kaput and Zosky is a fun show. And they are aliens, not fleas. Along with that, Kaput and Zosky is an original cartoon.

I do not believe in flaming, but if I did, you'd be done for good and proper. And besides, the tongue slip is a form of dialect, okay?

Moreover, would it really hurt Nicktoons to have a little diversity? I mean, really!

But just to show that I am not all bad, I agree with your bio page. I too enjoyed Sonic the Hedgehog. May the show come back on TV, and if no that, DVD.

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Ha Ha..."fleas?"..."leeches"... Ha Ha Ha.

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"Bernie and Corneil" (titled "Watch my Chops" in the UK!) is a BRILLIANT cartoon! First really witty one I've seen since... "Power Puff Girls", I think!

You must be thick, Jasper-Black, because it ISN'T Canadian and from "Quebec", it's French!! Millimages.

I don't know why they've stopped making it. (If they have). I read on the net that there was only one season, now on here I read that there were 2. They certainly seem to have broadcast enough of the cartoons in England. I like the visual style; it reminds me of something, but I can't think what.

And - the VOICE talents! Tell me, in America... DO you have the version where the dog (Corneil) has a slightly soppy English (Northern) accent, played by Kevin whatshisname!

Because somebody else on here was saying it had been voiced by American actors over there... if you missed out on that Northern British accent for Corneil, you've missed the whole pleasure of the thing!

Yes, it was (and hopefully is and shall be!!) a VERY witty and unusual cartoon. I didn't think at the time that it was too "outre" to be produced by American TV, because I thought it might come from the sort of tradition of animation of something like, "The Cramp Twins", say.... But I notice that all those "artsy" type humour cartoons in the US now seem to be somehow... all melancholy! And not TRULY funny. Whereas THIS, Bernie and his talking dog that doesn't want it known... that TRULY WAS funny. It's a simple, basic idea: which ALL the best cartoons are - Tom and Jerry (cat chases mouse), Wile E Coyote (Coyote chases Roadrunner), Yogi Bear (a talking bear and his friend) and so on and so forth. THENCE derives the humour... from a simple yet sophisticated basis. The rest is all delicious icing! (Or frosting, as you americans would put it!)

More, more Bernie and Corneil. I'm getting tired of things like the Simpsons, basically because they glorify idiots: and South Park is just too gross.... and that appeals to a lot of crap on American TV these days.

We need more of the charming Gallic touch in art.

BTW - responding to the comments of some other people on this forum... if you don't want cartoons to be about talking dogs, what do you want them to be about??


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I agree with the costumed socialist most wholeheartedly.

Oh, how I long for the days of enchantment and beauty, AKA, the eighties.

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What ae you talking about?

Oh, how I long for the days of enchantment and beauty, AKA, the eighties.

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i have no bloody idea

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Hum. Don't know about the 80s in cartoons... wasn't it all "He-Man and Skeletor", etc?

I'd say Seventies and before!

"The Hair Bear Bunch", "Hong Kong Phooey"... now THOSE were the days!!

And, of course, the 40s for the original Looney Tunes and Bugs Bunny before they made him a fascist with black spiked up mange fur and red cocaine eyes from the planet Gallifrey. (!)



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H:..But will they come when you do call for them?

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No no!- Corneil and Bernie is one of the few good cartoons that Nickelodeon, let alone the entire animation industry, has come up with recently, almost on level to shows like Garfield and Friends and The Tick. When I got a preview of Nicktoons TV I managed to find the show when it aired. And for once I was impressed. Too bad it doesn't air on the regular Nickelodeon channel.

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I wasn't paying too much attention to it at first, but after one viewing one day, I decided I lovd it. Go figure.

Oh, how I long for the days of enchantment and beauty, AKA, the eighties.

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With that, ignore all K and Z haters. They haven't the slightest inkling what they are talking about.

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hey Theshapeshifter Why does no one go onto these ones.

again Sorry for acting like keef on invader zim but no one is posting on the Kaput and zosky boards

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Alas, not a clue have I.

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Live with it!
The only dark side is dark cartoons.

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theshapeshifter

did you see the boards. and Corneil and bernie is a good show like the vampire one

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I suppose I did.

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I think were taking over Corneil and Bernie's board and Kaput and zosky's board only because ChaosGarfield isn't there and neither is that other Guy's

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It could be. But these cartoons are obscure anyway. Obscure, and yet so very brilliant.

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There's not much to talk about when there's only a few topics hanging around...

As for the "Dark Side" of cartoons, that's kind of off. Why not something like Dark Ages or Dark Times or something to that effect. Plus like I said before, Corneil et(and) Bernie are one of the few cartoons remaining with potential.

First the 70's were the Scooby Doo era. Now today it's the Pokemon era.

Not sure about the majority of the cartoons 60's and before. I do like the 80's-mid 90's though.

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what do you think of the new nicktoons cartoons coming like kappa mikey or Skyland

what about the wallace and gromit shorts today

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Well this is what I think:

My favorite shows:
1.Hey Arnold was the absolute best in the world!
2.Rocko's Modern Life
3.Ahhh Real Monsters
4.Rugrats (pre Dil, Kimmi) <---- tho those episodes are ok too.
5.Are you afraid of the dark
6.Taina
7.Carissa explains it all
8.Ned's school survival guide
9.The Wild Thornberry's <-- i'm an animal lover
10.Ren and Stimpy
11.The Angry Beavers
12.Full House
13.Kablam
14.Spongebob <-- only certain episodes tho
15.As Told By Ginger
16.Doug <-- when it wasn't owned by disney
17.100 mcdeeds for eddie mcdoward <-- does ne one remember that show where the guy got turned into a dog and he had to do 100 good deeds b4 he could be a human again?
18.Rocket Power
19.All Grown Up <-- only a little bit
20.All That <-- original cast members
21.Kenan and Kel <-- Who loves orange soda? kel loves orange soda. is it true? mmhmmhm, i really really dooo
22.Jimmy Neutron
23.The Brothers Garcia <-- I originally hated that show and probably would if it was still on today, but i miss it so...yea
24.The Secret World of Alex Mack <-- same as above ^
25.Animorphs <-- this show was awesum
26.Gulla Gulla Island <-- i know this was a nick jr show but i still loved it.
27.The Journeys of Allen Strange <-- again, i hated this show, but i miss it
28.The Mystery Files of Shelby Woo <-- ^
29.Inspector Gadget

Shows I hate:
1.Avatar: The Last Airbender
2.Unfabulous <--- indeed
3.Fairlyodd parents <-- stupidely idiotic
4.Catscratch <-- wth is this crap?! it's pointless!
5.Catdog <-- sum episodes were good but the whole show was just dumb
6.Inveder Zim <-- again the same as ^
7.6teen
8.Kaput and Zosky <-- again wth is this?!
9.Martain Mystery
10.Zoey 101
11.Corneil and Bernie
12.Yakkity Yak
13.Doug <-- when it was owned by disney
14.Romeo <-- is so stupid (im not bein racist cuz i'm black)
15.The Amanda show <-- is probably the most stupid and pointless of all these
16.Chalk Zone
17.Danny Phantom
18.Drake and Josh
19.My life as a teenage robot <-- dumb
20.The X's <-- more like the zero's

That's seriously all I can thinkk of right now. Again i'm 14 and rember all the old shows and stuff. I know there's much older one's but I wouldn't kn ow much about them..what a sad generation this is becoming..they really should put back on all the older shows instead all these lame crappy stupid ones they have today. they suck.




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I like Kaput and Zosky! Any he or she who makes fun of it has a head full of smashed flies. But yes, I too, hate (with a passion) Invader Zim. I just don't think that an alleged kids' network should ally itself with adult-esque humor.

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one thing theshapeshifter what do you think of shows like REN AND STIMPY or ROCKO'S MODERN LIFE!!! being on nicktoons

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It must be. They are the originals. A disappointmet it would be if they were cancelled, but thus is life.
On another note, I have a suggestion Nicktoons, which I have not submitted, but had I, I know that I'd be ignored on the spot:
Instead of making a show take two time slots a day, perhaps those time slots could be filled with the older, more antequated Nicktoons?

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like Aahh! real monsters and doug

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How right you are!

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corneil & bernie is a good show :) but i feel like nicktoons should have kept doug

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you predicted the future there my friend, all this network is now is corneil and bernie, the secret show, kappa mikey and shows that are already on nickelodeon ie spongebob fairly oddparents etc. its stupid.

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I like spongebob and Fairly Oddparents
granted I like Simpsons, IZ, Rocko, Doug, Hey Arnold too, really I can't seem to hate any nicktoon.
Never got into Kappa Mikey though
As for Corniel and Bernie, I liked it, till I got bored of seeing reruns,
Kapat and Zosky, barely remember it, liked it from what I remember.

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