Fearless or Ip Man?


I'm surprised no one brought up this topic before, or maybe I just didn't see it. Those who liked Fearless, have probably seen Ip Man by now. Those who haven't seen Ip Man yet, would probably like it at least as much as Fearless if not more so.

So many similarities between Fearless (2006) and Ip Man (2008), inviting comparison:

Both were biopics about real martial arts masters.

Both stories mostly occurred during the subject's middle-age or so in life.

Both were costume-period pics set in an earlier time in China (Ip Man was set a few decades later than Fearless however).

Both featured Japan as an adversary nation from China's POV. Both featured themes of Chinese national pride in the face of Japanese oppresssion (the degree of Japanese oppression differed).

Both featured top notch Chinese martial arts stars of our generation--Jet Li and Donnie Yen respectively, both of which actors primarily come from a wushu background, and are widely considered of similar caliber. Which one is "better" is an open question that is much debated.

Both had wicked nice, masterfully choreographed and executed action scenes.

Both featured fight scenes pitting Chinese martial arts versus other martial arts, esp. Japanese. (also true for Ip Man 2, except not Japanese.)

Neither film went crazy on the wire-fu that I recall, if any. (I'd have to watch them again to be reminded whether any wires were utilized in either one. Ip Man 2 had some wire-fu in one scene but I'm talking about Ip Man 1)

Both films featured a one-on-one public duel at the end.

both films featured the hero facing off at the end against a "main" Japanese antagonist who had sympathetic/noble qualities, or at least was shown as somewhat less than absolutely evil or psycho, as opposed to a "secondary" (and arguably the "real" villain) Japanese antagonist who the hero never fights directly and is much worse than the "main" bad guy.

both films presented its hero (eventually, in the case of Fearless) as an example of not only martial arts prowess but also wisdom, courage, patience, mercy, and other virtues, thus a symbol of Chinese pride and a role model for martial artists and people in general everywhere.

Both films ended with a Japanese person murdering, or attempting to murder, the hero, and the hero becoming a martyr or near-martyr for the honor of the Chinese people/nation, and for the cause of liberty versus oppression everywhere.

Which one do u choose? I really liked Fearless but I have to go with Ip Man by a small margin:

(a) Huo Yianjia's character was to be admired by the end, but I found Ip Man more likeable throughout the movie, and his wife's facial expressions of disapproval during the first half were priceless. and the little kid was great too, with the tricycle interrupting that one duel inside the Ip house.

(b) Ip Man was special among other martial arts movies because of its Schindler's List/Life is Beautiful tone during the second half. I like to call Ip Man the "Schindler's List" of kung fu movies. To me, Fearless was the "Gandhi" of kung fu movies. However, that kinda reminds me of other kung fu movies such as Chinese Connection a/k/a Fist of Fury, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, Hero and others in which the hero gets killed at the end


PS Ip Man 2 was the "Rocky IV" of kung fu movies.




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Ip Man!

Fearless was good but Ip Man has the superior story.

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First off, excellent post OP, lovely to see good quality stuff.

Secondly I watched IP Man yesterday and Fearless today. And I could have to say IP man, it just had a lot more in it. The action in both was around about the same quality but there was a lot more in IP man I felt, some romance and comedy thrown in that didn't feel forced at all.
IP man gave me a serious 'martial arts buzz' if that makes any sense.

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That is a tough one. I've seen fearless more than once, but not IP man (yet, I'm getting it on blu-ray).

But it's a tough one.



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I'd have to say Fearless. I loved Ip Man too. And also I feel that the fight between Jet and the other Chinese master in the restaurant is one of the greatest Martial Arts action scenes ever filmed.

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I love, and so own both of these movies, but I have to say the same about the fight in the Japanese Dojo in the first IP MAN, it was so damn visceral and emotional!

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It's the same film with different actors. All boils down to which actor you prefer, and Donnie is a beast in my book.

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This is like asking who's hotter Jessica Alba or Jessica Biel, who cares they're both hot and both these are both kickass movies and ranking which is better.

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I was confused when I saw the first 5mins, I thought I had already seen it and then as you mentioned it was basically the same as IP Man. I have to go and watch the rest. Now that I am no longer confused.

TY

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I'd have to go with Fearless. I don't remember much about the Ip Man movies, I guess I didn't care for them.



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Fearless by far.

Reasons: The character arc, the philosophy of martial arts, the action, and the pride of the oppressed. Although i'm sure that alot of the events were changed from the real story, it is true that Hua Yuan Jia stood up against the foreigners during the invasion, and was the peoples champion.

Ip Man, being chinese myself, i felt that they pulled some cheap moves to make the chinese more sympathetic and more patriotic. Ip Man was not a peoples champion, he was a Wing Chun teacher/practioner. He didn't stand up to the Japanese. I felt that this movie (like most of the kung-fu films of recent years) are propaganda movies. Chinese good, Japanese bad. You can argue Fearless does the same, but it does it more smoothly BECAUSE it is more or less based on what the real man did do, and 1 bad greedy japanese business man dosen't represent the whole of Japan. This is opposed to Ip Man, making something up for an epic finale. Ip Man 2 is a worse offender of the propaganda i mentioned, but thats not even worth mentioning. I own both movies on Blu Ray, so i do like both, but Fearless is far superior.

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Either or really, its like splitting hairs. I'd go with Ip Man but fearless is just as good.

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