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Predictions For the upcoming UFC In New York Card?

posted 8 years ago by billbrown7071
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Dana White Said at UFC 202 that he was going to start working on the NY card this week, so some fights are going to be announced soon and that card is going to come together soon...

Obviously its going to be a Big deal because of how long they've been trying to get in to NY...Its definitely going to be stacked, But I think they learned a lesson with UFC 200, I think they'll try to stack the card With Exciting Matchups, instead of HUGE names...

Jon Jones,Chris Weidman and Frankie Edgar are all from NY and are almost Guaranteed to be on The card...

Jones obliviously depends on If he gets suspended or not and how fast they can get this Drug test deal cleared up...

If Jones is able to fight, Its clearly Going to Be Jones Vs Rumble for The Interim Title(Dana really wants this fight for some reason)

Weidman Will almost certainly fight Luke Rockhold, Jacare Souza or Yoel Romero

I think Edgar probably gonna Fight Pettis

and theres definitely going to be 2 title Fights...So the Options are ...

Cruz Vs Garbrantdt
Woodley Vs Wonderboy
Aldo Vs Halloway(for The Interim Title If Conor Doesn't come back down to 145 yet)

and Then we got The "What Ifs" and Waiting game to see what Conor does

If Conor decides to go to 155...Then its Eddie Vs Conor for the 155...

If Conor goes back to 145, then Its Conor Vs Aldo II for the 145 Title...

and that Also opens up the Possibility for Eddie Vs Khabib Nurmagomedov for the 155 title...

I think UFC 205 in November is probably a little to quick of a turn around for Conor, I hope he doesn't fight on the card, But knowing Him and The UFC, They'll both push for it, Conor knows how big the card is and knows he can demand HUGE money, so I'm sure he'll be interested and The UFC would love to have A Mega fight for this card...I hope It doesn't happen though...

I'd like to see

Jones Vs Rumble
Cruz Vs Garbrantdt
Woodley Vs Wonderboy
Edgar Vs Pettis
Weidman Vs Rockhold/Romero/Souza

If Conor does fight on the card...I'm most interested in Conor Vs Eddie for The 155 Title(and The UFC market it as a Super fight, The 145 Champ Vs The 155 Champ, Dana's been on this kick lately about Making Conor Give up the belt, Let him Keep until after The Eddie fight, If Conor wins, Immediately make him pick a division and Belt, at that point He would have made history, If he wins, He'll be the first UFC fighter ever to hold 2 titles in 2 different weight classes at the same time, thats all he cares about, If he does it, Then The next day, Make him choose a division and Vacate a belt and Keep the other one)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

Conor vs Alvarez. Sounds good to me.

Remember, use the magic twig wisely

[–] liverpool26 8 years ago

Aren't they trying to get a fight for GSP or have they given up on his return. Nunes could also fight, I think they wanted rousey back for 205 but since she's not going to fight maybe Nunes will fight someone else instead.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Aren't they trying to get a fight for GSP or have they given up on his return. Nunes could also fight, I think they wanted rousey back for 205 but since she's not going to fight maybe Nunes will fight someone else instead.

ya those were rumors, But both are now dead...

Dana announced this week Rousey isn't fighting at UFC 205...He said he hopes she'll be back in December or early 2017...

and GSP Is getting Weird, He's 100% not fighting at UFC 205, He Intentionally entered the USSADA Drug Testing pool, and The rule is if You come out of retirement, you got to be drug tested for 4 months before you can compete(The UFC could give a exemption like they did with Lesnar, But GSP is refusing, He wants to e Drug tested)

But The time he started and The time He finishes the 4 month testing doesn't allow him to compete at UFC 205...

but the timing does allow GSP fight fight at UFC 206 which is in Canada, and GSP is on record stating thats the event he wants to come back on....and Unfortunately it looks like were gonna get GSP Vs Nick Diaz II...GSP doesn't want to fight for the belt, and for some reason GSP wants to fight Diaz again, and If you look at the ranking There truly isn't very many interesting Fights for GSP.

I really thought If Conor won The Nate Diaz rematch...Then A GSP Vs Conor fight was a for gone conclusion...There were talks about it happening the the first time they fought at UFC 196, GSP even came to the event, and GSP's Coach Firas Zahabi even said had Conor won all signs were pointing to GSP Vs Conor...So I really expected Conor to call out GSP if he beat Diaz in the rematch...There simply isn't a bigger fight in the history of MMA than GSP coming out of retirement to Fight Conor...IMO the fight easily would do over 2 million PPV buys and Probably over 2.5 Million...Knowing Conor I thought He would Jump at that(although I think he would lose)...

But It didn't happen, which was Surprising to me...and were now left with GSP returning to fight Nick Diaz, which just doesn't do anything for me, Diaz is 0-3 in his last 3 fights and Lost 50-45 against GSP in The first fight and IMO will lose worse in The 2nd fight ...But I understand why The UFC is making the fight...anything to get GSP back, GSP is a Proven 650 K + PPV Draw, make any fight he wants to get him back...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

..GSP doesn't want to fight for the belt, and for some reason GSP wants to fight Diaz again, and If you look at the ranking There truly isn't very many interesting Fights for GSP

Apparently GSP is all about 206 and said he wants Diaz, Miaia or Woodley. He said that when Dana said he (GSP) doesn't really want to be champion that he should get Woodley and the world will see how quickly that opinion gets changed.

Honestly, I don't want Conor to fight for the LW title. There are other guys who deserve it more and have waited. Plus, again, he's getting inflated and overblown. I'd like to see Khabib get his shot! Conor can't be called the reigning. ..defending champ if he never defended the belt!

Regardless of who he might fight there it'll be all good.

[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

Well he wanted to hold a belt in 2 weight classes. Alvarez is waiting. If Conor is healthy then yeah. Its hard to care about Khabib when hes only fought 3 times in the last 3 years.

Remember, use the magic twig wisely

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Apparently GSP is all about 206 and said he wants Diaz, Miaia or Woodley. He said that when Dana said he (GSP) doesn't really want to be champion that he should get Woodley and the world will see how quickly that opinion gets changed.

I read that today too, GSP said lastnight on UFC tonight that he'd fight Woodley,Maia or Diaz...But up until that point, everything he had ever said was pointing to he didn't want to fight for the belt...

and Woodley even released Text message he had with GSP where GSP said he wasn't interested ...

So either GSP is lying or he's suddenly changed his mind...

But I dont think Woodley is a good fight for GSP...GSP's never had a great chin, and I'm sure Woodley would go into that fight with the Intentions of Throwing the kitchen sink at GSP during the first round...

GSP obviously has a path to victory against Woodley, But I'd favor Woodley Path to victory over GSP's...I think there a much better chance of GSP getting KO'd in The first round than GSP surviving and Woodley gassing...

If I were GSP, I'd push for The Diaz Fight...Its b far the safest fight he could take...Diaz Doesn't have KO power and GSP could easily out wrestle him again...

Woodley could easily KO GSP and Maia is simply 3 levels above everyone else at what he does...GSP has great wrestling but theres just not much you can do to prepare for Maia, His Takedowns are PURE technique and Theres really no preparing for it...

Diaz is the safest fight and IMO the fight thats going to be made

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

GSP's never had a great chin,

What?

Cerrone will for sure be on the card. My guess against someone awesome!!! He talked about it on JRE, but wasn't able to say who it was yet.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

GSP's never had a great chin,

What?

what did you not understand...

I said GSP never had a Great Chin...

I'm not saying he had or has a glass jaw, but He clearly doesn't take a great shot and thats A main reason why He fought so safe...

If you watch GSP's fight With Sera,Shields,Codit,Diaz and Hendricks...He literally got Hurt in all of Them...Sera KO's Him, Shields had good rounds 4 and 5 striking with GSP and at one point even wobbled him, Diaz Rocked GSP in the 3rd(I think, maybe It was The 4th), Condit Knocked GSP down with a headkick that barely landed and Hendricks Rocked him Multiple times...

GSP has shown He doesn't have a Great chin or doesn't take Shots well, Thats why He fights so safe...

IMO based off that, Woodley isn't A very good Matchup for GSP...I think Woodley and his coaches would easily Pick up on it, and Woodley's game plan would be to Throw the kitchen sink at GSP in The 1st...I dont see GSP being able to take A clean shot from Woodley...

Obviously GSP does have a path to victory, But IMO Its An extremely risky Fight...

Fighting Diaz would be A Much safer bet....

The risk of fighting Woodley and The risk of JUST the first round With Woodley when he's fresh and would be Trying to throw everything at GSP is much greater than going 5 full rounds with Diaz...

but thats just my opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

You mean GSP got kicked to the head and from your opinion it was grazing? You mean that Big Rigg, a known K.O. artist rocked GSP, Diaz, a guy who trains with a GREAT boxing gym and a guy who KO'd Lawler wobbled him? You mean Serra who caught GSP flush made him tap to strikes?

Wow...great fighters actually connected and hurt GSP and wobbled him? Him and out of all of those he only lost 1 to tapping. Hmmm. I guess he must also have questionable ground skills since the sub loss too.

I think that I'm questioning your knowledge of what it feels like to get hit by Hendricks, Diaz, Serra or Condit. 2 of those guys have pro boxing and kickboxing experience. Sorry, but the fact that he got hit by Big Rigg and didn't sleep like all the fighters before him might show that his chin is not "weak".

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Diaz, a guy who trains with a GREAT boxing gym and a guy who KO'd Lawler wobbled him?

I'm not kidding, I literally chuckled out loud at this one ^

You trying to come up with a way to try and make it seems like Diaz has Power was truly priceless...

Wow...great fighters actually connected and hurt GSP and wobbled him? Him and out of all of those he only lost 1 to tapping. Hmmm. I guess he must also have questionable ground skills since the sub loss too.

I think that I'm questioning your knowledge of what it feels like to get hit by Hendricks, Diaz, Serra or Condit. 2 of those guys have pro boxing and kickboxing experience. Sorry, but the fact that he got hit by Big Rigg and didn't sleep like all the fighters before him might show that his chin is not "weak".

I think You might be A Massive GSP fan...

If you can even at least admit He doesn't take a great shot, I think theres something wrong there...lol I'm not saying GSP has a glass jaw and I'm saying you should say or admit that, But If you can't at least see that Its not exactly normal that GSP got hurt/wobbled in 5 different fights by 5 different fighters, than again I think You might be A Massive GSP fan

I also get where you were going with "Sorry, but the fact that he got hit by Big Rigg and didn't sleep like all the fighters before him might show that his chin is not "weak".....

It sounds good but doesn't really make sense...

Big Rigg also Hit Condit,Josh Kos, and Lawler With Much heavier shot than he hit GSP with and They weren't nearly as hurt as GSP...

Condit Landed A Clean Leg kick to the head against Diaz that was much harder than The one he landed on GSP, and Diaz wasn't hurt at all...

every argument you can make for why GSP doesn't have a weak chin , I can make the same argument that he does, You can point to GSP surviving A shot from Big Rig as proof he doesn't have a weak chin but I can point to Big Rig Landed Massive Shots against Condit,Lawer and KoS that they were able to take, Yet GSP was badly hurt and Wobbled by Much Lesser shots from Big Rig...

GSP doesn't have a glass jaw, I'm in no way saying that...But IMO Its almost impossible to deny that He doesn't take shots very well...another Thing about him is, His face doesn't react well to shots(lol Thats sounds Like A giant "NO Sh!t statement) but what I mean is, He gets busted up very Easily, where ever he gets hit, even sometimes with a simply Jab, His face gets immediately Beat Red, His face Swells up Very easily and Cuts very easily....

and by the way, all this Makes what GSP has done even more Impressive, The way He been able to completely dominate and Then even get through tough situations when he's been hurt is Incredible...

But I named 5 occasions where GSP was hurt, and You somehow found excuses for all of them like its normal...

* I dont remember Jon Jones being Hurt/wobbled 5 times, by 5 different opponents in his reign of dominance...

* Silva wasn't hurt or wobbled 5 times by 5 different opponents during his reign of dominance from 2006 to 2012

* I dont remember Jose Aldo Getting hurt or wobbled 5 times, by 5 different opponents during his 10 years reign of Destruction

* Demetrius Johnson has been hurt or wobbled 5 times, by 5 different opponents during his recent reign of Dominance...

lol Its not exactly normal like Your trying to make it out to be that GSP was Hurt by 5 different Opponents during his reign of Dominance...

Usually when fighters are Dominate Like GSP,Silva,Jones, Aldo and Johnson ...They dont Get Hurt by 5 different Opponents during their stretch/reign of dominance...

GSP did, and he did because He doesn't take a shot very well...

Jones,Silva,Aldo and Johnson have also been hits with big shots during their reign of dominance but They weren't Hurt like GSP or Hurt the number of times Like GSP...

again I'm not saying GSP has a glass Jaw, I'm just saying He's doesn't take a Shot very well, He has a history of being Hurt by Many different opponents and most concerning is some of the shots that badly hurt him weren't Devastating shots...

thats doesn't bode well for A fight Against Woodley...Based on GSP's History, IMO I dont think he could take A Big shot from Woodley(Not many fighters can), But especially not GSP considering IMO He has a history of not taking a very good shot...

Hmmm. I guess he must also have questionable ground skills since the sub loss too.

PS this is just childish and is in no way comparable to what I was saying, I think you know that , You just simply wanted to say something Insulting...

Or at least I hope thats what happened, for your sake , I hope you dont actually believe getting hurt/wobbled by 5 different opponents in 5 different fights is comparable to 1 early in his career Submission.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

^Lol. ..love it. Keep going...lol.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

well a big Match was just added to UFC 205 and there are some RUMORS of others...The UFC 205 card is starting to become a little clearer...

Robbie Lawler Vs Donald Cerrone was Just announced for UFC 205, thats just a fantastic Fight.

Its being reported Conor Vs Eddie Alvarez Is the Main event and Is pretty much Done, except The only sticking point being Conor wants to keep his UFC 145 Belt and Defended after The UFC 205 fight...IMO Conor will get his wish, Making The Eddie Vs Conor fight A TRUE Superfight, The 145 champ against The 155 Champ...

Its also being Reported The UFC is targeting Woodley Vs Wonderboy as The Co Main event for UFC 205...

So as Of Right now, It looks like The Card is going to be-

Conor Vs Eddie-Main Event
Woodley Vs Wonderboy-Co Main
Lawler Vs Cerrone

and almost certainly Edgar and Weidman will fill out The Remaining 2 Spots.

Again I think Edgar Vs Pettis is The fights thats going to be made...

and Weidman Vs Rockhold/Romero/Souza

that would be A *beep* Fantastic Card...

The only Surprise Is what their going to do with JONES...If They can get some kind of Resolution on his case and make him Illegible for The card, I'm sure They would Swap Woodley/Wonderboy for Jones/Rumble...Jones Is from New York

If this card happens, If either of these cards happen If The Main card is
Conor Vs Eddie
Woodley Vs Wonderboy
Lawler Vs Cerrone
Edgar Vs Pettis
Weidman Vs Rockhold/Romero/Souza

or

Conor Vs Eddie
Jones Vs Rumble
Lawler Vs Cerrone
Edgar Vs Pettis
Weidman Vs Rockhold/Romero/Souza

I think It will be The Biggest PPV ever in terms of PPV Buys...

I also love the fights, I think each fight has the potential to be Great Fights stylishly...UFC 200 was absolutely stacked But The fights ended up being not very good...

I think This UFC 205 card is going to be stacked But The fights are also Stylishly great for The Potential to Be GREAT fights as well

EDIT******************

It appears Weidman is Fighting Romero-
http://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/ufc-205/yoel-romero-posts-picture-signing-contract-weidman-fight-deletes/

I like that fight.

UFC 205 is shaping up to be GREAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

another Great Fight added to UFC 205

Rashad Evans vs. Tim Kennedy -http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/9/9/12863916/rashad-evans-vs-tim-kennedy-slated-for-ufc-205

The Amazing thing is, This is almost certainly not even going to make The Main Card...Rashad Evans vs. Tim Kennedy Will Probably Be on The prelims...

2 title fights are conformed for The Main and Co Main, which will almost certainly be

Conor Vs Eddie
Woodley Vs Wonderboy

Lawler Vs Cerrone Is confirmed which will 100% be on The Main card

Weidman Vs Romero is Confirmed, Weidman is from NY, so That Fight is be on The main card

that Only leaves 1 Spot on the main card left, and that spot is almost certainly going to Edgar since He's from NY....

A Great Fight Like Rashad Evans vs. Tim Kennedy is gonna up on The prelims

I'm telling ya...UFC 205 is going to be Epic, I think its going to be the exact opposite of UFC 200...I think Its going to be A STACKED card With Big names, But The fights are going to be Fantastic...

I'm trying to figure out what Women's fights they are going to make at UFC 205...The UFC is gonna want to throw at least 1, Probably 2 Women's fight on The card and I'm sure They'll want them to be Big names...

Maybe

Tate Vs Zingano II?

Or

Claudia Gadelha vs Carla Esparza ....

all 4 women are either Former Champs or Title challengers...and Both make sense ranking wise

EDIT*************

Another Great Fight Added to UFC 205-....Al Iaquinta Vs Thiago Alves at 155lb

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

More Updates-

The card as of now is looking like..
Conor Vs Eddie(almost done/finalized)
Gastelum Vs Cerrone
Weidman Vs Romero
Rashad Evans vs. Tim Kennedy
Frankie Edgar Vs Jeremy Stephens
Al Iaquinta Vs Thiago Alves

Woodley Vs Wonderboy is still rumored and likely to be The Co Main event...

There was an article today that had an interesting Fight...

Jose Aldo said His coach is meeting with Dana today to schedule a fight and Aldo said He wants Pettis at UFC 205 ...

Aldo said he wants Conor first but knows Conor isn't coming back down and he would much rather fight Pettis next than Halloway...He said He wants to sell tickets and fighting Pettis next would be a much bigger fight than Halloway...

So I gotta say, that fight actually make sense at 205, having Aldo and Pettis fight on the same card as Conor would set and get interest going for Conor to go back down to 145...

Its not fair to Halloway, He's clearly the Number 1 contender...But Aldo/Pettis is the bigger fight...

So Its possible we could have 3 title fights at UFC 205...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] Meat_Robot 8 years ago

Ain't gonna be no 3 title fights. Less than 2 months away and not a single one announced yet.

Honestly, the thought of Conor getting a LW shot on the same card as an interim FW title fight is intriguing but F'd up at the same time. He would effectively have to relinquish the FW title. There's way too many fighters in both divisions that deserve shots and shouldn't have to wait around for the Conor Show. Sure, he redeemed his loss to Diaz, but he's never even fought at 155 in the UFC. He's no longer undefeated. His mystique disappeared and only just started returning. Returning to 145 and defending is the next logical step for both him and the UFC.

Ever since the sale of the UFC was announced the new owners have undoubtedly had some say in matchmaking. Fights are usually announced months in advance. This major event being as close as it is yet few official fights shows it's in the transitional phase. These guys bought the UFC with long-term intentions. Supposedly they were looking to increase credibility. Stacking up champs is not good long-term business. Neither are undeserved title shots or bowing to an Irishman, even if he is their top bread winner.

Here's to swimmin' with bow-legged women.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Ain't gonna be no 3 title fights. Less than 2 months away and not a single one announced yet.

Woodley Vs Thompson was made official today...thats 1

Conor Vs Eddie is all but finalized...thats 2

Aldo's manager met with The UFC yesterday, specifically requesting Aldo Vs Pettis at UFC 205....that could be 3

at this point, 2 are done, and Aldo Vs Pettis is definitely possible...just depends on if the UFC wants to do it...

Ever since the sale of the UFC was announced the new owners have undoubtedly had some say in matchmaking. Fights are usually announced months in advance. This major event being as close as it is yet few official fights shows it's in the transitional phase. These guys bought the UFC with long-term intentions. Supposedly they were looking to increase credibility. Stacking up champs is not good long-term business. Neither are undeserved title shots or bowing to an Irishman, even if he is their top bread winner.

I completely agree with everything you said about The future, It all makes sense, But Just not for UFC 205... its close, at this point, They want A Huge Supercard...Its the first UFC ever in NY and at the Garden...I have no doubt your right about The new owner but just not for UFC 205, The most important thing right now is making the Card Epic...and Its certainly heading for that...

I agree that there are other fighters that deserve The LW title shot over Conor...but Right Now, The UFC needs A Massive Headliner for UFC 205 and Conor is the only one that can instantly make The Card A 1 Million + PPV seller and Make The NY card feel Epic and give the "Feel" The UFC is looking for...

So The UFC is going to have to bend to Conor this one time...I'm sure the UFC would much rather have Conor Vs Aldo II at 145, But Conor has been very clear that fight doesn't interest him, Normally the UFC could force it, But this close to UFC 205, and Without Rousey,GSP or Jones...They need Conor and that means Giving him what he wants, which will be The 155 title shot and Letting him keep the 145 Belt...and of course HUGE MONEY

I recently read an article that illustrates how important Conor is to UFC 205-

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mattconnolly/2016/09/09/ufc-205-the-fate-of-new-york-super-card-rests-on-conor-mcgregors-shoulders/

For example

Right Now the the UFC 205 card is coming together(Or at least the Main Card)

Woodley Vs Thompson
Weidman Vs Romero
Edgar Vs Stephens

These 3 fights will for sure be on The Main card(Woodley Vs Thompson as the co Main) and Weidman and Edgar because they are from NY...

The UFC will add one more HUGE fight, thats a great card, But theres truly only 1 main event that puts it over the top, and Thats Conor Vs Anyone...

any other fight they tried to add as the Main event would round out a great card, But It would be lucky to do 700K in PPV buys...

Rousey,GSP and JONES are off the table...

Stipe is taking Time off, Joanna is Fighting next in Poland, Bisping is out because he's fight at 204...

The ONLY other fights that could headline UFC 205 are Cruz Vs Garbrandt and Nunes Vs Pena...its the ONLY 2 championships fights left

and again either 2 of those fights added to the card would complete a GREAT card...But The difference between the cards With either one of those Fights headlining the card and Conor Headlining the card is literally about 1 Million PPV buys, 5 million in Ticket sales and Mainstream media coverage that Instantly Makes UFC 205 "The Epic 1st NY card" that the UFC desperately wants...

If Jones,GSP or Rousey was available, Conor wouldn't have any Leverage ...

Jones is from NY, Jones Vs DC or Jones vs Rumble could easily headline the card...

Rousey Vs Nunes would be massive...

GSP vs anyone would be massive...

But all 3 are off the table, and The UFC only has 1 Option...Conor Vs Anyone....The other 2 options(Cruz Vs Garbrandt and Nunes Vs Pena) dont sell PPV's or Get the Media the UFC wants

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] chuckaroe2 8 years ago

Apparently the UFC has said no fights are official for 205 AND the LW title fight will now move to 206 (my guess since GSP has hit a snag due to loss of money because of the Reebok deal) with one official reason being Eddie let the contract signing dates go by and it will Khabib not Conor.

[–] My_Pot_Drank_My_Granny 8 years ago

Got my money on McGregor/Aldo II headlining, only because they're releasing the entirety of the card next week. You don't make a big deal out of the reveal unless it's McG, right? That's my line of thought, anyway.

Runner-up guess: Jones managed to buy his innocence and we're getting Jones/Rumble.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Ain't gonna be no 3 title fights. Less than 2 months away and not a single one announced yet.

well it turns out there are, But one kinda came out of nowhere in the Joanna Jedrzejczyk Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz Fight...

Conor McGregor Vs Eddie Alvarez
Tyron Woodley Vs Wonder Boy Thompson
Joanna Jedrzejczyk Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz

now we just got to hope there are no injuries and The 3 title fights stay intact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] tcob44 8 years ago

well it turns out there are, But one kinda came out of nowhere in the Joanna Jedrzejczyk Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz Fight...

Conor McGregor Vs Eddie Alvarez
Tyron Woodley Vs Wonder Boy Thompson
Joanna Jedrzejczyk Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz

now we just got to hope there are no injuries and The 3 title fights stay intact

Wow, the 205 card is F'ING INCREDIBLE! Waaaaaaay better than the 200 card, by miles. Hell, the prelim fights are comparable to half the main events in the last couple of years. I'm sooo stoked for this card. Excellent tagline for this one: Can't wait!

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Well Its Finalized....I got to say DAMN!

Conor McGregor Vs Eddie Alvarez
Tyron Woodley Vs Wonder Boy Thompson
Joanna Jedrzejczyk Vs Karolina Kowalkiewicz
Chris Weidman Vs Yoel Romero
Donoald Cerrone Vs Kelvin Gastelum

^ 3 Title Fights, 1 Super Fight(Champ Vs Champ), and Maybe The best Main Card Ever

then comes the INSANE Prelims
Edgar Vs Stephens
Tate Vs Pennington
Evans Vs Kennedy
Miller Vs Alves
Boetsch Vs Natal

http://www.ufc.com/event/ufc-205#/fight

what Fights are you looking most forward too?

also what are your predictions?

Mine-
McGregor(1st or 2nd round KO, Probably 2nd)
Wonder Boy(2nd Round KO)
Jedrzejczyk(Late Round KO Or Decision)
Weidman(Unanimous Decision)
Gastelum(Unanimous Decision or Split Decision)

Edgar(Unanimous Decision, But I think Stephens got a good shot here to get the KO)
Kennedy(Unanimous Decision)
Pennington(Unanimous Decision)
Alves(Unanimous Decision)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Wow The UFC 205 Presser just got done...

and If you read between the lines, It was revealed what The whole Hold Up has been with the Eddie/Conor Fight...

Conor was making fun of Eddie and said "You didn't even get a new contract, You signed this fight on your Old Contract"

So that means the Hold up really was Eddie demanding more money....Dana pulled his Bluff, Made him think he was gonna make the Khabib fight instead and Eddie was gonna lose The Conor/UFC 205 all together, So Eddie at the last minute signed The contract and isn't getting any pay increase at all, He's fighting for The exact amount his last contract states...

I dont know how to feel about this, I can completely understand Eddie wanting a big pay day and wanting something similar to Diaz Money ....But I can also understand The UFC not wanting to pay Eddie "Diaz" kind of Money, Diaz actually added something to The Conor fight, Diaz name, reputation and Style actually Brought more viewers to The Fight...I can understand the UFC feeling that Eddie Does NOT bring that same level...

I guess the Right/Fair thing to do would have been to meet in the middle...

Its seems extreme for Eddie to get Diaz type money and also seems extreme for Eddie to be forced to fight for his Old contract...

Eddie should have gotten some kind of Increase, Just Not Diaz type money...

If Diaz Got 2 Million up front and then like 5-10 Million On PPV Buys...

I guess Eddie should have Gotten like 750 K Up Front and like 2-4 Million On PPV Buys

Instead He'll Probably be getting like 200-350K Up Front and who knows what he'll get PPV wise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] My_Pot_Drank_My_Granny 8 years ago

Aldo has also requested a release from his contract. I don't mind them catering to Conor to an extent, but sh*t's getting out of control when one of the top p4p guys for years has had enough.

Hope he gets out and heads to Bellator. Less money in all likelihood, but maybe he'll be shown some respect.

[–] TitoVicandJoey 8 years ago

Wow, Eddie is gonna lay Conor out.

Remember, use the magic twig wisely

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Wow, Eddie is gonna lay Conor out.

how you see it playing out?

what round? Will Eddie try and take Conor down for the first couple rounds then KO him or you thinking An early KO for Eddie?

Me, I'm going with Conor...I think Eddie is the best Possible Matchup for him at 155(except Pettis, IMO Conor would brutalize Pettis)...But I Like Conor against Eddie a lot more than Conor Against Khabib or RDA...

I'm gonna go with A Late 1st Round or 2nd Round KO for Conor...

I think Conor's got good enough takedown defense to stop Eddie for the first 2 round, I dont think Eddie as a Great Power Double Leg takedown Like Mendez, I think Eddie's gonna have to try and Get Conor against the cage and then work on getting him down, and I think Conor can defend that Pretty well for the first 2 rounds before he starts slowing down...

So I'm thinking Conor's gonna catch him somewhere early..Conor's got a 5 inch reach advantage, Will have The Speed and Power advantage...Eddie's Chin isn't Great...

although I completely admit Eddie certainly has the tools and has ways to win this fight...

PS...On scale from 1 to 10....Just how devastated will you be if Conor Wins...

I mean, Due to your creepy unnatral hatred for Conor thats already eating you alive with him just having 1 Belt...Just how much Will Conor Holding 2 Belts at The same time Push you over the edge?

lol you do realize this is it right?...If Conor wins this fight and Wins A 2nd belt in another division and become the first fighter in UCF history to hold 2 belts at the same time in 2 different weight classes, You realize his Legacy Is SET IN STONE Right...If he does this, He immediately goes into LEGENDARY status...

and thats got to be a huge concern for you considering your just waiting for him to lose so you can try and discredit all his wins and accomplishments...

lol Its truly over If he wins this fight, If he accomplishes this, He could then lose his next 5 fights and his legacy will still be UNTOUCHABLE...

lol this fight has to be truly FRIGHTENING to you.....Your worst nightmare is ONE LEFT HAND away....lol If Conor lands it and wins this fight, Your weird unnatural Hatred/obsession with Conor will take a turn for the absolute Worst...Conor Will immediately be in Untouchable Legendary Status, and that will quite simply bother you more than anything on earth...

lol, So again answer the question on a scale from 1 to 10...and at least be reasonable, dont say 5 or 6, giving the length you've gone to to hate on Conor, I nor no one is going to believe Conor Winning A 2nd belt would ONLY bother you A 5 or 6....

at least be honest, I know its almost certainly a 10...but hey maybe Your hatred for him has slightly went down, Maybe you found a hobby or something and Maybe you can now say it would only be a 9...It would kill you, but not quite a 10...

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] tcob44 8 years ago

Wow, Eddie is gonna lay Conor out.

Eddie better dive at Conor's legs after the opening bell, otherwise he's in for a world of hurt.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

Aldo has also requested a release from his contract. I don't mind them catering to Conor to an extent, but sh*t's getting out of control when one of the top p4p guys for years has had enough.

lol what the hell is Aldo thinking...

The Guy is just Now making decent Money...

Asking for your release makes no sense, He's absolutely no draw at all, His PPV's are so low he doesn't even get PPV Points/Money....

By Asking for his release its clearly an attempt to let the UFC no he's extremely unhappy and wants things to change, But He's in no position to demand those changes, He's just not a big enough star or draw...

The UFC can simply say, Ok, You dont want to fight for us, Fine but were not releasing you from your contract to fight for another organization...

Its not gonna bother the UFC 1 bit if Aldo decides to sit out for a year or 2 and demand his release, He just doesn't sell PPV's, It didn't bother them when Nate Diaz did it, at the time, Diaz wanting to be released from his contract, the UFC refused, Nate Sat Out and The UFC gladly allowed it...

Jose's just not a big enough star/draw for His threat to effect the UFC...

Hell Conor tried it at UFC 200, said he was going to retire...The UFC still Pulled him from the card, But Dana quickly had a sit down with him, and got sh!t worked out...

It would actually Effect The UFC if A Huge Draw like Rousey,Jones,GSP or Conor...sat out for a year or 2 demanding their release...

The UFC would lose at least 3 fights a year from Those Huge Draws...

The UFC couldn't let The Conor "Retirement" going on for a long time, Letting Conor be unhappy or not fight for a year would cost the UFC a Ton Of Money in 3 potential Conor Mcgregor fights...

Aldo's not in that situation, The UFC can just sit back let him be unhappy, Sit back and let him demand his release and not fight for a year or 2...because Their not messing out on Massive Pay days...

Aldo's next fight would be Halloway, Thats almost certainly a Co Main event on A PPV card, Or at best A Main event On An PPV card that takes place in Brazil but Based on Aldo's history, An Aldo/Halloway PPV in Brazil Might due 200 K in PPV buys...

Aldo's just up sh!t creek...He can't demand anything...I can completely understand his frustration, but he's caught, He either continues to fight for The UFC and continues to make Decent money(for the first time) Or he's demands his release, sits out for a year or 2 while The UFC simply lets him...

and again Aldo aint making more money in another Organization...

If you look at Aldo's career earnings they are astonishing...

He truly did NOT make any money until the last 5 fights...He's now making good money(around 300-500K+ a fight)

He's the interim champ now, so he's still gonna make that kinda money...He's not getting 500 K Per fight in Bellator...

and Then theres the Potential Conor rematch...that Is quite simply The biggest fight Aldo will ever have for the rest of his career...If he keeps winning that Conor fight will eventually happen...Its absurd to ask for your release from the UFC when Your 1 or 2 fight away from A Career defining pay day In The Conor rematch...

lol Aldo seriously didn't think it through...His Demand to be released is beyond absurd, The UFC will Literally Laugh at it and His Agents will tell him "If you do this We quit", His agents will be smart enough to understand that Aldo is just now making decent money that he's not going to be able to get anywhere else, His agents will understand theres A "5 Million + LOTTERY TICKET" waiting for him 1 or 2 fights away in the Conor rematch...

Aldo's just very anger and understandably so...but Demanding his release is the dumbest possibly move he could ever make...If fact He's already made a mistake just by throwing it out there, He needs to immediately say "I was angry but dont really want to be released" because if he doesn't, anyone who actually understand the situation will think Aldo is an absolute IDIOT to demand his release from The UFC

Heres a website for Aldo's career earning and again they are astonishing-
http://mma-manifesto.com/ufc-fighter-salary-database/salary-main/jose-aldo-career-earnings.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] tcob44 8 years ago

Aldo has also requested a release from his contract. I don't mind them catering to Conor to an extent, but sh*t's getting out of control when one of the top p4p guys for years has had enough.

Hard to feel too sorry for a guy who's pulled out of more than a few big fights, refuses to speak English, and doesn't like doing press. Not to mention, it's hard to get excited for a rematch when you've got a 13-second knockout hanging over your head. I do feel kinda bad for him, but at least he has his interim belt to snuggle up with at night...

[–] legendkillinpeopleschamp 8 years ago

refuses to speak English

Not sure why this is important. Not like he lives in the US and the UFC is US only.

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

I guess the Right/Fair thing to do would have been to meet in the middle...

Its seems extreme for Eddie to get Diaz type money and also seems extreme for Eddie to be forced to fight for his Old contract...

Eddie should have gotten some kind of Increase, Just Not Diaz type money...

If Diaz Got 2 Million up front and then like 5-10 Million On PPV Buys...

I guess Eddie should have Gotten like 750 K Up Front and like 2-4 Million On PPV Buys

Instead He'll Probably be getting like 200-350K Up Front and who knows what he'll get PPV wise

Ok...I just looked up Eddie's contract....and I got to say...I changed my mind, I'm completely on the UFC's side here by NOT Giving him a new Deal

Here are the details of Eddie's current contract-

* An "intent" to grant Alvarez an immediate title shot against UFC lightweight champion Benson Henderson in March

*A tiered share of pay-per-view revenue, starting at "$1 for each ‘buy' between 200,000 and 400,000 buys, $2 per buy between 400,000 and 600,000 buys, and $2.50 per buy over 600,000 buys."

*A starting salary of a $70,000/$70,000 show/win split, which includes $5,000 raises per win with a cap at $210,000

*A $250,000 signing bonus

*A guaranteed booking on a UFC on FOX card
Three "commentator" appearances on UFC-branded media

So Going by this ^....

Eddie is looking at a 4 Million dollar Pay Day by Fighting Conor...

UFC 205 is almost certainly going to do at least 1.5 Million PPV Buys...and under Eddie's contract, He gets $2.50 Per Buy, So that means Eddie's getting at least 3.750 Million(From PPV Shares) If/WHEN The Fight does 1.5 Million Buys...and Eddies contracts states He can make $210 K up front...

3.750(PPV Shares) + 210 K(Up Front) = 3.960 Million

So Eddie's looking at A 3.960 Million dollar Pay Day to fight Conor under his current contract.....

so with knowing that, I completely agree with The UFC and Dana for holding out and not giving him A New deal....Eddie's getting A MASSIVE Career defining Pay day, I understand Eddie wanting more and wanting Diaz money, But Eddie Is NOT DIAZ...

Now had Eddie been making Under 1 Million for this fight, I would be completely against the UFC, Or Had Eddie NOT been getting a cut of The PPV buys, I would have been completely against The UFC...

But the facts are Eddie's got a good contract, and The Money he's going to make IS MORE than Fair, Eddie truly is looking at an absolute MINIMUM of 3.960 Million for this fight....and thats MORE than Fair!

Source for Eddie's contract-http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/1/10/3856006/morning-report-eddie-alvarez-ufc-contract-immediate-title-shot-pay-per-view-revenue-bellator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] billbrown7071 8 years ago

OMG I actually felt bad fr Jeremy Stephens, He got absolutely Obliterated

https://twitter.com/MikeyJ_MMA/status/780903018548039680

lol He tried to Jump In and Steal Conors Thunder and Conor Literally made him the Laughingstock of the presser...

lol Seriously its so bad, I bet it literally makes Future Fighters at Future Press Conferences hesitate or Seriously Think heavily before "Jumping In" and saying something negative to Conor...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtZhOXtWEAACom-.jpg

People are already messing with Stephens Wiki Page...lol

Chamatkar Sandhu ‏@SandhuMMA 44m44 minutes ago

I appreciate Jeremy Stephens efforts he but he got totally destroyed by Conor McGregor. 'Who the *beep* is that guy?'

Dave Meltzer ‏@davemeltzerWON 1h1 hour ago

Conor was really on fire when Jeremy Stephens said he'd knock him out, "Who the *beep* is that?"

#Dizz © ‏@TalkMMA 1h1 hour ago

McGregor responds to Stephens: Who the fuhk is that guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdQgx3h1r3w

[–] legendkillinpeopleschamp 8 years ago

I know Dana blows Conor and he is suppose to be the money maker but I have no clue how he gets this title shot outside of his mouth. I don't think he has earned, how about his ass defends his title. Not a real champ until you defend the built.

[–] donj79 8 years ago

I know Dana blows Conor and he is suppose to be the money maker but I have no clue how he gets this title shot outside of his mouth. I don't think he has earned, how about his ass defends his title. Not a real champ until you defend the built.

And that, Sir, is why you're not the UFC President.

You answered your own question - 💰

[–] legendkillinpeopleschamp 8 years ago

I wouldn't want to be also I haven't paid for a UFC event since Silva vs Sonnen one.