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These shows are not only misleading, but dangerous


Shows such as this do extreme damage to the legal system. These are not trials, they are pseudo-arbitration hearings. "Judges" such as "Judge" Alex are not Judges, they are out-of-work attorneys looking to make money. The "litigants" are not under oath, and are not held responsible for any lies they tell. Those looking to get any sort of compensation via the truth should stick to the real court system and ignore these shams of "justice".

IMHO, such shows should not only be cancelled, but OUTLAWED. They feed off of the poorest in our community, who need the actual protections given by the real court system more than any. Litigants in almost all these shows are required to dismiss any real case they have with prejudice, under a promise from the show that they will be giving fair treatment, meaning anyone who's shafted, from these farces due to the other party flat out lying with no fear of reprisal (which is close to 90%), has no real recourse afterwards.

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Do you have any evidence of this?

That is, take Judge Judy: Sheindlin retired as a family court judge in 1996.

Marilyn Milian was a Miami Circuit Court judge from 1999 to 2001.

Jerry Sheindlin (People's Court judge before M.M.) was a New York judge, first in Criminal Court, later on the Supreme Court, from 1982-1999.

Joe Brown was a Judge on the State Criminal Court of Shelby County, Tennessee.

Judge Wapner was appointed by Governor Pat Brown to the Los Angeles Municipal Court in 1959 and served 2 years before being elevated to the Los Angeles County Superior Court, where he served for 18 years before retiring.

So while it may be a mediation, many of the people are or were judges.

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SirB, I totally agree with you. Even though these shows rely on drama in order to attract ratings, the judges are experienced. After reading an expose in the NY Times about how local courts often have "judges" that are only high school graduates, you are better off going to these guys than your municipal court that handles drunk driving. At least these judges are experienced lawyers. The production company is not going to just hire some Joe Schmo off the street and put robes on them.

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Oh please, get over yourself already. You're so all over the place with this that even you don't know where you stand.

In one post you vehemently state that 'these people are NOT real judges.' When someone calls you out on that, you change to 'he's not a judge in THAT jurisdiction.'

In another post you state that these are merely arbitration hearings and in yet another post you state that they're pseudo-arbitration hearings.

It's obvious from reading your posts that you have no idea what you're talking about.

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It's arbitration, which is legally binding. They don't hire arbitrators off the streets, ALL of them have legal background. Arbitration is used ALL THE TIME in real life. Next time you use a credit card, read the contract. MBNA will take you to the Arbitration Forum.

And they ARE under oath.

Also, the shows are set up in such a way as to be advantageous to both parties. X amount of dollars is set aside for each case. The winner, who can only win up to $5k, gets their award. Whatever is left in the money alloted for the case is split up between plaintiff and defendant as payment for appearing. The issue of lying is not really too appealing, because even if they lose, they get half of the "case fund."

Get a clue.

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The thing is, these parties have to agree to do the show. No one forces them.

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the fine print on each of these shows each state that they are mediation- that the litigants are paid for their appearance and agree before entering the "courtroom" to accept whatever the judge/mediator decides.

they are entitled to use the title of Judge just as a retired Doctor or University Professor would be- even though they aren't practicing, doesn't mean they haven't reached that esteemed level in their profession.

if nothing else, the shows convey for some, what could be taken as life lessons.

Your pencils are creating a health hazard. I could fall & pierce an organ.

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Just sounds to me like someone lost a case on one of these show and are salty about it.

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Interesting original post.

I would counter though, that since these are small-claim cases only hence the maximum they are getting in these cases is $5000 USD; these are not criminal trials; any money paid does not come out of the participants' own pockets hence they don't actually lose a dime if the Judge rules against them; and the participants get paid the remainder of the $5000 USD even if they lose --- then can there ever really be a chance of the particpants being "victimized" in these cases? As the original post implies would happen. I would say no, for these reasons, it doesn't seem like they can be victimized.

If and when they ever start having shows like this for criminal trials or for high-money amounts, then maybe the points in the original post would hold up.

Plus Judge Alex is pretty good at weeding out liars via his very proficient cross examination of the witnesses.

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Ummmmm...they're TV shows. People (IMHO)usually watch these shows to be ENTERTAINED and to ESCAPE reality for a few hours,not run to it.

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