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If you're reading this Hal...


1. Henry Fool is, in my opinion, one of the best movies of the nineties, and a sequel is welcome, ONLY if ALL the cast from "Henry Fool" reprise their respective roles.

2. Now, does anyone know the plot summary?



Henry Fool: I've been bad. Repeatedly.

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http://www.possiblefilms.com/movies/fay_grim/

Looks like a plot synopsis to me...

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Oh this has got to be a joke. Maybe I'm underestimating Hartley, but how is this not taking the story in a wildly different direction? I mean, can only assume he thought he was Lars Von Trier when he made "No Such Thing." Who does he think he is now? Dan Brown? Tom Clancy?

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Talk about imaginative, this sounds completely crazy. Hopefully the actors can stay true to character despite the drastic shift in just about everything else. If this isn't a joke, it might be my most highly-anticipated moviegoing experience of the year. I'm trusting Mr. Hartley isn't merely trying to bank on spy-thrillers being "in" now.

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Why worry about the plot. The plot has always been inconsequential in Hartley's films. Read the plot synopsis for Amateur.

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Escellent point, about the plot being superfluous... What matters is the strong, clear writing and those excellent performances. As long as there are 5-6 great, long scenes rich in character and intense, profound dialogue, then I'm in.

Remember that fabulous scene in Henry Fool in the Hospital after Fay has just had the baby and Simon comes in to tell the new father Henry that his "confession" has been rejected? That is such a powerful moment of transition in the film; Simon asserts himself to his mentor and moves up in status and leaves ehem all behind, and Henry, incredulously, shrinks to mediocrity.

__"You must be pretty impressed with yourself now, Simon; the important new man...You'd be nowhere without me and you know it..."

__"the world is full of s**t"...

__"It's true... The world is full of S**t. And your job is to wade thru it. I'm sorry, but you're good at it. Perhaps I'm not. Go on, leave. Do what you're good at."

Give us that kind of Brilliant writing, Hal. We're all waiting. Hollywood insiders know how great HF is. It's an actors and writers masterpiece. Prove us right. Do it agian!

Eagerly....

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There's nothing particularly Von Trier-like about No Such Thing. It's as purely Hartley as it gets. I assume that this will also be. I can believe that this plot synopsis is accurate, but I can only assume that the insanity of the plot will be something to riff on throughout, not something that really matters. Like, as was said, Amateur or No Such Thing, or even Book of Life.

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You need to leave my cousin alone and let him write the strangest plots he wants to because they all come out to be trememdous movies, wouldnt you agree?

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Well, since nobody here is ripping on Hal and we're all fans, I can only assume that you posted here just to be a name-dropper and let everyone be filled with awe that you're (allegedly) Hal Hartley's cousin. Well congratulations. We're all very, very happy for you.

*sigh* nobody's gay for Mole Man...

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That plot would completely evaporate and destroy the whole point in henry fool.

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