Showing Friday on SPACE


The Canadian network SPACE: THE IMAGINATION STATION is showing this movie Friday, March 8th.

I had seen all the Season 1 episodes on SPACE. Sadly the schedule changed from afternoon to morning after four episodes into Season 2, and I have to work mornings, so I've missed most episodes of Season 2, and have never seen any of Season 3. I got a single disc DVD of the last six episodes of Season 2, so I was able to see the conclusion of "ROBOTECH: THE MASTERS" eventually. How is "ROBOTECH: THE NEW GENERATION" by the way?

Been really into the show now and have been looking into seeing ROBOTECH: THE SHADOW CHRONICLES. Sadly I hear Rick Hunter has maybe a minute of screen time, and no Lisa Hayes?

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I missed it! I really meant to watch it.

Is it going to be on Space again soon?

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Hot damn this is late in replying, you've probably seen the entire series by now? No less, I'll fill ya' in.

The New Generation is quite a compelling saga and is definitely powerful enough to serve as the final chapter to the Robotech series; basically, it follows up directly from the end of the Robotech Masters arc. The Invid arrive on Earth one year after Zor's sacrifice, wiping out the United Earth, Southern Cross, and bits of REF armies still lingering from the Second Robotech War; Louie Nichols, Dana Sterling, Jonathan Wolfe from Sentinels, and a handful of old geezers are the only known survivors. This is in 2031, while by 2038, the REF sends its first offensive against the Invid, soldiers Lancer Belmont and Lunk Austin included whom survive the defense onslaught. In 2042, the REF finally sends a second offensive to attack the prime Invid Hive in a location called Reflex Point, the landmark which has replaced what used to be remains of New Macross City, 'the three Mounds' (this is shown in Shadow Chronicles). The sole survivor of this once-again-disastrous move is Lieutenant-Commander Scott Bernard, whom is stranded on Earth with no means of contacting his REF superiors, Admiral Rick Hunter included.

And all that is in the very first episode of this saga! Overall, New Generation is pretty much a unique chapter in the grand scheme of Robotech; unlike The Masters, it doesn't spinoff an established character (Dana in the prior case), rather putting its focus on an entirely new cast of potential heroes. For what it's worth, Rick Hunter is strongly emphasized as a prominent offscreen character, having been promoted to Admiral by 2042 and getting many references. Aside from that, it's all about this new band of 'rag-tag' freedom fighters led by Scott, striving to survive in this alien-dominated Earth and if at all possible, find a way to defeat the Invid Regess and her legions of followers. What adds to the uniqueness of this saga is that it's almost entirely set on Earth; aside from the first and last couple episodes, there's no action in space, an interesting contrast to the prior two sagas.

As for Shadow Chronicles, yes, Rick Hunter does return for a couple cameo instances (which, sadly, add up to no more than a couple minutes). The first act of the movie (34 minutes to be precise), in addition to finding out what happened to Admiral Hunter, is about the final battle with the Invid from the perspectives of the Robotech Expeditionary Force. This is set concurrently with the last two episodes of the series, "Dark Finale" & "Symphony Of Light". From there on, an all new chapter unfolds with a far more menacing enemy, "inorganic" beings called the Haydonites. I don't wanna give too much more away, heck you've probably seen all of this by now anyway.

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Yes, I've seen NEW GENERATION. I like it better than THE MASTERS saga. SHADOW CHRONICLES was a really good follow-up.

I've even seen the underrated ROBOTECH: THE MOVIE (needs a DVD release), and ROBOTECH II: THE SENTINELS.


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Most awesome! And yes, the Untold Story Robotech Movie does need a DVD release, beyond just a few supplementals like the Protoculture Collection has. Literally everything else of the series is available. We got all 85 eps Remastered/Extended, Robotech II: The Sentinels, as well as original pilots like Codename: Robotech and original attempts on Macross & Mospeada in the Protoculture Collection. We got Shadow Chronicles and even that hellish-awful Robotech 3000 short (on the two-disc edition in the latter case). Robotech the Movie is literally all that hasn't been released, is it really so hard to find a somewhat-decent VHS print and transfer it to a $5 DVD for us? Then again, Harmony Gold doesn't exactly have the Megazone 23 license anymore and ADV's defunct, so the chances for it have probably gone below zero...

Oh well, it never really worked as canon anyway, I can live with just the supplementals.

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Oh well, it never really worked as canon anyway, I can live with just the supplementals.

Barely. No one ever tried to connect them afterwards.


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Barely. No one ever tried to connect them afterwards.


Well, having also seen the Untold Story movie, I've tried my hardest to try fitting it into the Robotech continuity. But really, with what's given, it just doesn't work. Take for example the time when it's set, 2027, two years before the start of The Masters; we're basically being told that there was this whole brief confrontation with the Masters before they showed up "later" in the series, despite the fact nothing of such is referenced or even closely implied in the series. Certainly Leonard and/or Emerson would allude to something about it, yet they treat the Second Robotech War as the first time they're encountering the Masters. It overall really hurts the whole "prequel" concept and another inconsistency, if I'm not mistaken, that makes no sense is how the Masters make reference to their superiors coming to Earth before despite this being set before The Masters saga and the Zentraedi being their "underlings".

Overall, there's just too much wrong with it IMHO, aside from the above inconsistencies I pointed out. The city scenes of Megazone 23 look nowhere near like the post-apocalyptic setting Southern Cross manages to convey, the Southern Cross Army manages to figure a way around the Masters pinpoint barrier two years before they "have" to do it again (see the quirk with this?), and a ship of the Masters even crashes to Earth into the hands of the United Earth commanders (despite no knowledge of their technology "later" in The Masters saga). A best case scenario to even attempt to fit Untold Story would be to say the whole debacle with Edwards and the Masters was completely covered up, but again, that doesn't work for a variety of reasons; again, Leonard & Emerson treat the Second Robotech War as the first conflict with the Masters, not to mention a couple wrong things about the Masters such as not being after the SDF-1's Protoculture Matrix and the fact that they die at the movie's climax.

Yeah, I just find it profoundly unbelievable to look at Untold Story as canon with the rest of the series.

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