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Yuri and Alice are Johnny's Parents

posted 19 years ago by Zachdl
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I know this is a wacky theory but here me out okay. What if after Yuri's first ending turns out to be the true ending to Shadow Hearts II. Because what if Yuri and Alice get married and have a kid. The kid is named Johnny. Is it possible that Yuri had a new life and became Johnny's father and is it possible that Alice had a new life and became Johnny's mother. I say it might be true because Johnny looks like Alice and his hair well it looks like Yuri's hair execpt it's blond. I just want to know what you think about my thoery is it true or false. When Yuri chose to go back to when he first met Alice it was still 1914 now in Shadow Hearts 3 it is 15 years later so I believe in the beginning Johnny is just about to turn 15. That's my theory you decide whether it is true or false.

[–] iceystorm071389 19 years ago

actually thats almost exactly what i was thinking

[–] Zachdl 19 years ago

I'm glad you think that way my friend.

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 19 years ago

Johnny isn't in any way related to Yuri or Alice. In fact, Yuri and Alice aren't even mentioned in the game.

[–] Zachdl 19 years ago

Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see what really happens and who are Johnny's parents and why were they murdered.

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 19 years ago

I already know what happens.

[–] pylea_girl 19 years ago

It is easy to find out what happens all you need to do is read about the ending at a game faq site. But next time put a spoiler warning in so that people who don't want to know aren't spoiled by it.

"I go where I am needed, and stay as long as I am needed. I will always remember you."

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 19 years ago

Yuri and Alice not being in the game isn't much of a spoiler. It's been known even before the Japanese version was released, back in July.

[–] Zachdl 19 years ago

You may have a point there but have you played the game. I didn't think so. I am saying you don't know and I don't know either because I haven't played it either. The only people that have are the Japanese. I say anything could happen. What we do know is that Johnny's father was a secret agent. I thought Yuri was Secret agent before went on his quest during Shadow hearts 1.

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 19 years ago

Wow... someone's never heard of importing. Not only have I played the game, but I've beaten it as well. Anything cannot happen because I've already seen everything. Yuri and Alice are not Johnny's parents. If you want to delude yourself into thinking that they are, be my guest. Without giving away too many spoilers, I will say that Johnny does have a hidden family connection with a different character. By the way, Yuri was never a secret agent, however his father was.

[–] sue_eales 19 years ago

com on man! you can not say all this and not tell us what happens! give us a hint! even if you lie i still want to know whats going on! whats the deal with the girls changing powers? are there more than 3? how does roger bacon come into it? whats with johnys lightsabre? please get back to me?!

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 19 years ago

Before I start let me warn everyone that I'm going to use spoilers in this post. Although, I'll warn you before the major ones anyway.

"com on man! you can not say all this and not tell us what happens! give us a hint!"

You want me to spoil Johnny's family connection? I will if you want me to, but don't blame me for spoiling the game for you.

*Major spoilers below*

Johnny is Lady's brother. Lady is the main villain incase your wondering. Their parents were killed in a car accident years ago. Johnny was also killed, but he was resurrected by the Malice that Nicolai released in SH2.

*end of spoilers*

"even if you lie i still want to know whats going on! whats the deal with the girls changing powers?"

You mean Shania? She's a Harmonixer, like Yuri. Or do you mean Hildegard? She's a vampire like Keith and Joachim.

"are there more than 3?"

Yeah, she's got 4. Kind of a downgrade in comparison to Yuri, but she's got more than Kurando. Also don't expect her to be the powerhouse that Yuri was, although she's still a great fighter.

"how does roger bacon come into it?"

He's not as prominent as he was in SH2, but he gets a fair share of screen time. You first see him as a prisoner(yes he gets captured again, although this time it's Hilegard's fault). The disappointing thing is that he doesn't even mention anything about Yuri.

"whats with johnys lightsabre? please get back to me?!"

That's a spoiler but if you really want to know, I'll tell you.

*spoilers below*

Johnny's "lightsaber" is made of malice, the very same malice that was released by Nicolai in SH2

*end of spoilers*

[–] ParaPara_Of_Water 18 years ago

Thanks for the info!

Are there any cameos of any of the original Shadow Hearts or Shadow Hearts: Covenant characters, perhaps? Like there was of Margarete Zelle?

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 18 years ago

*spoilers*

Roger Bacon, the Valentines, Gerard Mazymell, Rene(Lenny), and there's a shop sign that says Gepetto and Cornelia on it.

*end of spoilers*

[–] Zachdl 18 years ago

Thanks for the info. Plus i know i was wrong about Johnny's parents but I do think there is some connection between Lady and Alce and Yuri and Killer. which means I think that Yuri and Killer are one and the same and Lady and Alice are one and the same.

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 18 years ago

"Thanks for the info."

No problem.

"Plus i know i was wrong about Johnny's parents but I do think there is some connection between Lady and Alce and Yuri and Killer. which means I think that Yuri and Killer are one and the same and Lady and Alice are one and the same."

Sorry, but you're dead wrong. Yuri and Alice aren't in the game, why can't people accept this? Yuri's story is over.

*spoilers*

Killer and Yuri aren't anything alike. I don't know where you got this from. Nothing points to Killer being Yuri at all. As for Lady, she's Johnny's sister. Alice doesn't have a brother and her parents weren't killed in a car crash. Did you ever play the original Shadow Hearts? If not play it, the game shows how Alice's father was killed.

*end of spoilers*

[–] Zachdl 18 years ago

I've played Shadow Hearts 1 I just forgot a lot of the storyline. That's all. I do get that you are saying about Yuri and Alice but I was just saying what if the bad ending in Shadow Hearts 2 was the main ending and the beginning of shadow hearts 3 started about 13 years years ago. Okay. I know I am wrong but that is what I was looking at okay. So I was thinking maybe at that time that Yuri might be the main villan of Shadow Hearts 3. Yes I do know I was wrong but that was what I was thinking. That is all bye.

[–] SeraphicRadiance786 18 years ago

Okay, I gotcha.

Let me just restate for any one joining the conversation now. Yuri and Alice are not in SH3, sorry if this comes as a disappointment.

[–] joshdude12345 18 years ago

I know that Karin can't be in it, but I liked her a lot.