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I wish the music sounded more...


nostalgic and more like it was from the sixties. Does anyone who actually like Motown music on here like the music in the film? Because I really didn't care for it and I absolutely love Motown der...though perhaps that's why I'm disappointed in the film's soundtrack?

To me the songs sounded mediocre and like an uneducated composer on sixties music wrote the songs, thinking adding three back up singers and some call backs would make it sound like an oldies tune.

Anyone feel the same? Or do you think they intentionally wanted the music to have a "modern twist" and not just copy cat Motown music?

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Love Motown. I grew up on Motown. I **HATE** the music in this movie (I hate this movie, for that matter)!! I wanted to put a gun to my head and pull the trigger during this movie -- TWICE. Absolutely excruciating.

If I want to see a show about the Supremes (or some fictional 'Supreme-like' group), then I want to hear "The Supremes." Not what some 27 year old playwright who grew up in the 90s thinks "sounds" sort of like the Supremes!

To your post .. I couldn't agree more! "Mediocre" is actually a compliment!

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Love Motown. I grew up on Motown. I **HATE** the music in this movie (I hate this movie, for that matter)!! I wanted to put a gun to my head and pull the trigger during this movie -- TWICE.


Amen, Pat, to every last word in your post! Hated the music, hated the movie. And the sad thing is that the fact that this movie has already been made probably reduces the likelihood (however small it already was) of a "real" Supremes movie being made anytime soon.

OTOH, wouldn't it be nice if some wise producer someday saw the beauty of the real music, and got the idea to make a movie that will be to the Supremes what "Across the Universe" was to the Beatles?

But I tell ya, if I ever again have to sit through Jennifer Hudson showing off her vocal acrobatics with that interminable "What about me? What about me? What about me?" riff, please save one of those bullets for me.

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The music was a not written in the 90s nor was it supposed to sound like Motown, it was supposed to sound like the 60s. The movie was adapted from a Broadway musical, written by a very talented composer.

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I *KNOW* it was "supposed to sound like the 60's" because I grew up in the 60's and Motown was ALWAYS on the radio then! The early "60's" WERE Motown. And this music might mimic a little of the Motown sound but my point was that it was just flat out *HORRIBLE!* The music and lyrics were awful, and most of Jennifer Hudson's songs just ended up being monotonous screaming!

I know that the intent was to try to make her a little like Aretha, but at least Aretha had talent and good material. Jennifer can scream, and given good material she might be a good singer (I "get" why she got kicked off American Idol now). But the music of this movie was just agonizing!

My point about "the 90s" .. I was saying that the music was probably written by "someone who grew up in the 90s" (you don't bother reading posts that you are replying to). I actually found out that the two writers were alive in the 60s. But apparently they just can't write very good "Motown" music!

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I think the Little Shop of Horrors does a better job at capturing the music of the sixties than this film...

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It also covers the 70s.

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What is there to "research?!"

I listened to the music of this film. It blows. That's not "knee jerk." It's a fact.

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It's simply your opinion, which is hardly fact. What are you doing here?

J.

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Snappy retort. And you started so well.

And Dreamgirls still blows.

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Get a life and move on, Pat. You're garden variety a cave troll, and that's the lot of you.

J.

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I'm so hurt that you put me on your ignore list. I guess you can't stand the fact that not everyone agrees with your poor choice in music.

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Dreamgirls is a Broadway musical, with music by Henry Krieger and lyrics and book by Tom Eyen. Based upon the show business aspirations and successes of R&B acts such as The Supremes, The Shirelles, James Brown, Jackie Wilson, and others, the musical follows the story of a young female singing trio from Chicago, Illinois called "The Dreams", who become music superstars. Dreamgirls opened on December 20, 1981 at the Imperial Theatre, and was nominated for thirteen Tony Awards, including the Tony Award for Best Musical, and won six.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamgirls

Anything can be a game as long as there's a loser.

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Not all 60s music was Motown, much of it was very different and the score of Dreamgirls focused more on that style. If I didn't bother reading the posts I reply too, I wouldn't have corrected your misinformation.

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Jimmy's Rap was pretty great.

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back in college an english professor of mine asked our class to watch this movie to study the transition of speech & language from the 60's onwards.
I have to say nothing changed much, only the music.
But deeeyyymmm the music in this movie....
Well in fairness, some of the songs were bearable to listen to but in my humble opinion j-hud's voice should have been toned down a bit. I get it that they might have been aiming for an Aretha imitation, but J-hud just didn't pull it off quite right. the girl can act & there's no doubt about that, but even though i can't belt out high notes like she can i certainly have an idea about what's pleasant to hear and what's not. everytime it was her turn to sing i remember keeping the volume waaay down.
Good movie, but I'm half-hearted about jennifer hudson's singing.

* If a song could get me you *
JFoxy

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Well, first, your guess is incorrect.

Second, that's great that you enjoyed it. But it's still a horrible film, and even worse "music."

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Dreamgirls came out in 1981 (on Broadway I mean), therefor the songs were written before 1981.

That said, I do agree with the OP and with Pat ODay here for the most part. Though I didn't hate the movie (the acting and story were fine), most of the songs were kinda stinky and really didn't capture the feel of Motown music. Too Broadway sounding, which makes sense I guess, since that's really what they are.

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Stop embarrassing yourself because this movie and this musical was not written in the 90's.

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I am in my 50s, I grew up during this time. I agree completely that the music doesn't sound like it came from the 60s. All of it sounds more like late 70s disco and R&B. Funny thing, the movie music tries to fix this, because the original stage arrangements from 1981 sound like pure 70s disco.

When someone writes music for a musical set in a different time, they have a choice of making the music contemporary or from the earlier period. I think in 1980, Henry Krieger decided to write music from 1980 so that it would sound fresh to the theater audiences.

Examples:

Hairspray (contemporary music)

Little Shop of Horrors (period music)



Years later, for a story about the music industry of the 60s and early 70s, the music sounds wrong to people who are familiar with the music.

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My opinion: These are not bad songs, and the movie is good but not great.

Fact: They do not sound like authentic Motown.

I am watching the movie as I write this, and so far, the closest any of these songs have come to vintage Motown sound is (I think its called) "I Love You I Do" - It sounds like a Marvin Gaye cut from the How Sweet It Is album in 1965, despite the reversed gender role, of course. The very first song The Dreams sing at the talent show in the beginning sounds more like a Kent song. Kent was a much lesser-known black/soul label in the same era where Ike & Tina Turner did some of their early recordings. Motown had a very distinct sound that put it above labels like Kent and Soul City, and that distinction can be attributed almost entirely to two advantages that Motown had on other record labels: The Holland/Dozier/Holland songwriting team, and The Funk Brothers studio band. Neither had anything to do with the music in Dreamgirls, and it shows. NOT to take anything from the movie, because it is good, but it sounds very, very little like soul music from the sixties in general, much less the mighty Motown.

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Smeth - very well written. I agree. I'm watching this movie right now and realize the composers had no intention of making it sound like authentic 60s motown. It does certainly sound more like late 70s, which makes a lot of sense since that's probably when the songs were written.

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I thought the music was incredibly lame and boring... all sounded alike! I also love Motown classics but this movie filler was just blah.

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.I thought the music was incredibly lame and boring... all sounded alike! I also love Motown classics but this movie filler was just blah.
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If it was nominated and won Tony Awards, and it mostly played in Broadway...guess who the audience was?

There's your answer , right there.

Its contemporary music, and i'm guessing they couldnt quite get the "period sound", although Condon easily couldve consulted with any number of hip-hop producers such as RZA (Robert Diggs) or Madlib and have gotten an approximation of the sound.

It was more for dramatic effect, and Murphy got a Golden Globe out of it, and Hudson and Oscar.

No harm - except to your ears. LOL

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They didn't want a period sound - what they wanted (and more or less got) was a three way split between the Broadways versions, what actual period sounds would sound like, and modern contemporary R&B.

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The music is made for a musical, so it would never sound like Motown songs. The movie is based off the broadway show Dreamgirls. If you've every seen a musical on Broadway, you would understand why the music doesn't sound like what you would hear on the radio. The music was brilliant by the way.

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I absolutely love the score, however I do have to say that I'm not a fan of the way the score was treated in the film. It sounded way too contemporary. One example is the way "Heavy" was treated. The film version doesn't sound a thing like a 60's song nor was the instrumentation 60's sounding. I would prefer they treated the score more authentic to the Broadway sound with Motown/60's influences.

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Stop kidding yourself,that music sounded like a bunch of noise,well to me at least.

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When this score was first written in 1978/79, there was a concerted effort to make it NOT sound so much like Motown, for fear of lawsuits from Berry Gordy or Diana Ross. What came out instead was a hodgepodge of non-Motown 60s music (the score draws from Chuck Berry, James Brown, Etta James, and Wilson Pickett, though obviously there is still some strong Supremes influence in there). Most of the arrangements, however, have a strong 70s R&B/disco sound: "Steppin' to the Bad Side", for example, has _the_ definitive 70s disco shuffling high hat and sounds more like Chic ("Le Freak") than anything else.

The renditions of the songs in this film version sound more like Motown/60s music than the original versions ever did - the theme now has a Motown stomp, "Steppin'" goes gospel instead of disco, "Jimmy's Rap" sounds more like James Brown than Kurtis Blow, and "One Night Only" (Effie's version) draws directly from the glossy mid-70s R&B ballad style you might hear in a slow Temptations (Dennis Edwards version), Donna Summer or early Teena Marie record.

Still, even the film versions are hampered by the fact that they have to sound appealing to the MTV crowd that likes and buys a certain style of (heavily synthesized and pitch corrected) contemporary R&B rather than soul music. If you're no fan of "regular" Beyoncé or other pop-R&B music, this movie will be a tough sit-through.

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Lol,I'm not too ashamed to say this but I saw this movie for the first time on ABC & I actually feel the same was you do. Even though the movie was decent I found myslef wanting to put ear plugs on because the music is unbearable. I'm a fan of old school music ,exspecially motown,you know motown had those great catchy melodies,hard hitting bass,but the music in the film sounded like music from a middle school urban play,not my cup of tea,but hey who am I to talk I'm not berry gory or some musical guru.

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