I didn't actually think the rape scene in Irreversible was that bad. I think it was because I didn't really have time to 'relate' to the character. If you're a woman who sees a man beating up another woman or stabbing (can't quite remember what it was now), you walk away. Hard I know, but she wouldn't have been raped. I didn't feel any connection to her, to me she was just an actress. Rape is a horrible thing but I was aware that it was a film, she wasn't really getting raped.
In this film however I thought it was really harsh because the husband had to watch. I know this is also a film, but man that's just sadistic. And this sort of thing does go on in real life, there are sickos out there who will do that to a husband a wife, and then your not just violating someone, (which again, is a horrible and unforgivable act) but emphasizing the emotional pain felt by the couple. Doesn't matter I didn't really relate to them, I thought the manner of the rape was really harsh. I am aware that anal rape followed by a mutilation is pretty horrible, but for me this was effective in a not-so-graphic way.
As for the film itself, I thought it was really good. Not the sort of thing you take seriously, but entertaining none the less. As for all the 'unnecessary' bits, I don't think any of it was unnecessary, or done in bad taste. I say bravo for not being scared of the review board and all the anoraks who say 'ooo no you can't mention woman getting raped or mention gay rape in prison, someone might get offended'.
People know what sort of thing is ahead of them when watching these films. As soon as Vinnie Jones character turned to the wife, I knew she was going to get raped, or at least knew the possibility of it, and if anyone watching this film didn't realise that then you need to stop watching these films, or start paying more attention. And I still watched it knowing that.
If people don't feel they can handle rape scenes then don't watch films which you know will have them.
As for the shaky camera angles, it's been a problem for a while. I first noticed it in The Bourne Supremacy when he's having a fight with the other agent in the house.... I've watched that film 20 times, and some of the fight scenes I still can't figure out who's fighting who.
However in this film I only noticed the shaky camera angles at the end with the fight before Vinnie Jones thinks he's killed Stone Cold. But yes, film producers, less of the shaky camera effect please, or if you're going to go for the handheld option don't think that moving the camera wildly creates a sense of more 'action'. What it does is create confusion and sloppiness.
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mystiriousmaster13132004
15 years ago
ok so i see all these guys and girls complaining on here oh oh the rapes was horrible first go see "i spit on your grave" that is a seriously twisted rape scene which was wrong cause she was innocent.
now rape happens in prison to prisoners everyday male and female so get over it.
i understand if it is an innocent child that is wrong, but a killer please lets be realistic her problem she was not the one doing the killing this time.
she was the victim now, oh oh my heart is breaking NOT!!!! why is it when a man takes advantage of a woman every woman gets her undies in a bunch but when a woman does it, it is girl power hee hee example girl used sexual prowess do get the guys tag girl smiled. girl got raped woman complained. yeah sorry you want equal rights then be ready for them all the time plain and simple.
it is either all fair or just say sorry we cant handle being treated the same cause no one is crying oh the poorp drug dealer got raped in prison cause HE brought in drugs to the country. sorry you commit a crime you go to jail you get rape oh well to bad next ime stay home and be suzy home maker or get an education and a real job.
what you cant do that where your at leave but dont say it is wrong to rape her she was a mass murder personally considering she killed kids if i remember correctly i say they should have used 100 grade sand paper and a bat and you may say i am sick for thinking that criminals should be raped and tortured to death. but again when the criminals abuse the innocent what you want me to pay for there house no i dont think so i say give them there own medicine and ladies next time a woman sleeps her way to the top and uses sex for fame and fortune please let me see you boycott her and get outraged 60% of woman use sex to get to the top cosmo feb 02 or 03 yeah women even say it
and here is a little lesson for the ladies on equal rights
Non statutory female on male rape
Non statutory female on male rape is widely, but incorrectly, considered impossible because male erectile response is seen as voluntary, when, in fact, it is involuntary. [3][4] Fear, anger, anxiety, and non-arousal have been cited as factors in being unable to obtain an erection. [2][5] Therefore, male victims of rape by females [6] often face social, political, and legal double standards. [7] Though studies show otherwise [8], female rapists are usually seen as less culpable than male rapists by the courts due to these misunderstandings. Those who do not understand the law in many jurisdictions fail to realize that the forcible penetration of a male by a foreign object or a digit also constitutes the same crime. Since rape by females is much less well known than male-female rape, male victims of female rapists often find little support from rape crisis centers.
yeah there is your double standard in print and again no means no right yeah say that to the guys who felt violated and did not have a support group again baseball bat and sand paper should have been used you may say i am sick but i bet when criminals really fear the consiquences the crime stop right now we promote free housing and free food for criminals and when you get out welfare in some state me and my crew and i should have robbed a bank instead of joining the army hell we had to fight and risk life and limb for our freedom, food, and liberties and as a disabled vet i get less then the criminal on welfare thank god i can still work and keep my check to make ends meat which my paycheck is deducted to house and feed the killers agaian sorry she was not innocent so i luaghed when it happened
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tjevs
15 years ago
I'm confused by your post. Were you agreeing or disagreeing with what I said?
And you might want to declare you got that quote from wiki.
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mystiriousmaster13132004
15 years ago
i am not agreeing or disagree with your post i was stating that i hate the double stanard of society when it comes to rape and violence everytime something happens to a woman and a man does it. someone is going "omg how can he do that she is a woman and he is a man" but when a woman does it it is " yeah you go girl girl power " and all that jazz. i would have felt bad if she was an innnocent but the fact that she was a murder sorry i but i luaghed thinking about the poetic justice and yes i agree with you post if you cant stand it dont watch it 80 percent of films involving prisoners will have a rape scene or a violent murder scene again how many women have made a picket line at your local jail to stop rape and yes that was a wikki quote but it is a fact that men are also rape victims just not so publicly stated let be realistic how many guy you know are gonna call the cops crying and say i was raped by a woman or worse i was beat up by a woman if i was a cop i would luagh if i got that call sorry but i would yet i know it happens my cousin is a cop here in miami and here has gotten the i got beat up by my wife call and trust me they laughed thier butts off at the station
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tjevs
15 years ago
Wow, you have some pretty hardcore thoughts there. Nice job.
But you might want to use a full stop every now and then, otherwise it gets hard to read.
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GypsyNomad
13 years ago
@mystiriousmaster
Your spiel would have been a lot more impressive had the words been spelled right. And as for her being guilty, and it goes towards everyone, they never really did prove she did it. I mean there are at least 2 characters who supposedly committed all these horrendous crimes but in the end we saw they were innocent or at least doing it as a job for state or just had a lot of weed on them and then were sentenced to death. They're from South America and who's to say that they weren't just framed for these crimes? Even if they did do them, rape's not a good thing, no matter who it is.
Do not talk about equal rights. A woman sleeping her way to the top is not any worse than a man paying for sex. Often times the woman is forced to the act and is not getting any of that money. It is still a very unbalanced world, talk to me when there is no need for a woman to sleep her way to the top, because she's there on her own merit. (Plenty of women should be at the top on their own merit, but forced out of the boys club.)
I'm sorry that you feel abused by the government, but perhaps there is a reason why you are low on the pay-grade if your opinions and spelling is anything to go by.
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