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Ridiculous premise, unless its 1970's


First of all, lost in NYC? impossible unless you look like a raving crack head and even they get money with the right pitch to subway riders.
Cops are everywhere, everyone is all up in your business. Unless you are walking along the West Side highway drunk, you'd be fine. I like to see how they spin this idea.

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Yeah, but "lost-in-the-city" movies are fun. Survive the night films always intrigue me and they don't make them too often any more.

"I've seen things in this city that make Dante's Inferno read like Winnie The Pooh."

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You're joking, right? It's the rudest city I've ever been too, and I've been around. Ask for directions, more likely to get capped in the ass.

Don't get saucy with me, Bernaise!

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This post made me lol

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Where have you been? Topeka? This is a ridiculous premise. Racing to catch a 1:30 train to Boston and she's 'stuck' in the underbelly of NYC? First of all, if you miss the 1:30 train to Boston in Penn Station you wait 30 minutes and catch the next one along with 10,000 other people. Maybe you have to suffer from too many carbs at the Dunkin' Donuts but that's it. And 1:30 in NYC is like 9:00 p.m. in other cities. There's no where in Manhattan anymore that's more dangerous than other cities. NYC is now safer than most medium-sized US cities. I love Death Wish and The Warriors as much as the next person but NYC has become Disneyland in the last 30 years so the thought of someone getting lost "in the underbelly" is comical. (Then again, if Monica Belluci asked me for directions at 1:30 in the morning, I might try to kidnap her also.)

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>>First of all, if you miss the 1:30 train to Boston in Penn Station you wait 30 minutes and catch the next one along with 10,000 other people.<<

Apparently she gets robbed on her way to the train station. We don't know in what part of the town she was at that moment... maybe she tried to run after the robber... maybe it was a kid, and she ended up in a dark alley, in a gothic-like NYC... never making it to the station.

It may be a fantastic/thriller/horror film, in a sort of parallel NYC.

Let's wait for the complete script before suggesting it's stupid... maybe it will be, maybe not.

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Another misconception about New York City. We don't have alleys at all. It's part of our street grid and its written into our zoning regulations. Maybe in a few remote historic sections of Tribeca you can find one or two. I agree with the person who started this thread. There is no, "dark underbelly of NYC" anymore and if there is, it certainly wouldn't put anyone in danger. Sure, you could get mugged but that's about it. New York City has been ranked in the top 10 safest cities in America for the past decade.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1D7113CF935A25751C1A9659C8B63

And that article is from 2003. The influx of even more wealth since then makes the city even safer. There are so many police officers in all major transportation hubs throughout the city that you would get arrested for peeing on the street let alone mugging someone in Penn Station. Maybe this film doesn't take place in current New York? Maybe it's a period film?

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This plot reminds me of "Judgment Night" with Cuba, Estevez, Leary etc. Right?
Very entertaining, but I always had trouble believing they really couldn't "get out" of that neighbourhood.

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Did you even bother to watch the movie you moron? You sound like a self righteous prick. Typical New Yorker. To say NY is safe is also stupid. It has around 700 murders a year considering how many millionaires that live in the city itself. It's a *beep* movie, stop over analyzing it Mr. Perfect.

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Wow, you are way off. 700 murders? Less than 1/2 of that. 328 out of 8.4 million people. That is the lowest homicide rate since 1963 and is consistently in the top 10 safest cities in the US. If you're going to refute comments - at least know what you're talking about so you don't look foolish.

Other than that - yeah, it's just a movie -and not a great one. Not bad for a first time director, though. The story was just thin and this concept was done better in Until Sunrise.

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*Before Sunrise "- at least know what you're talking about so you don't look foolish."

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Really? Your response to my refuting highly inaccurate information about homicide rates in New York City is your lame attempt at looking smart by ignoring the substance of the argument and acting like a moron because I got the name of a shirty movie wrong? Who gives a *beep* The pertinent information was 100% correct. The name the movie is nothing.

Next time, if you can't come up with an intelligent response, don't come up with anything at all.

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aside from this being a 2008 post- the train to Boston is at Penn Station. The Amtrak trains (and most metro trains) stop for a few hours in the middle of the night. I grew up in NY and many friends were mugged just outside of Penn Station. I had just dropped one friend off when she got mugged literally in the station. Luckily she had no money in her wallet and all she had in her purse were a pair of glasses, her license, cell, and one credit card. she had her ticket & a few bucks in a pocket. otherwise- she would have been USC.
walk to where? I lived way north of NYC. most payphones don't work.

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You're joking, right? It's the rudest city I've ever been too, and I've been around. Ask for directions, more likely to get capped in the ass.


I was in a similar situation. I was 17 and was in the 1st semester in college. It was my first time ever using public transportation (the bus). I got there fine but when my classes were over I ended up getting on the wrong bus. I didn't own a cell phone at the time and this is when the time changed and it got dark very early.I got off the bus was roaming around the streets looking for a public telephone. I found one outside of a liquor store but it was broken. Go inside to tell this couple behind the bulletproof counter I'm lost and ask if I can use the phone to call my mom, they say use the phone outside. I tell them it broken and this c@nt and bitchy wife wave me off. Now imagine being lost in a big city like nyc.

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anything by Joel Schumacher is ridiculous. just look at his other horrible films...all his films are horrible actually

Dam U IMDB! I can't get any work done with you around!

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Could be pretty darn entertaining. Actually I happen to think that we need more of these Thriller stories back. I'm sure they can figure out something believable to why she can't escape the city. On top of that Schumacher is among my favorite directors, he always entertains.

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he always entertains.... haHAHAHAhaha

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I would agree with you facefacechick...but there's one major exception that i cannot overlook: "Falling Down"

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it is Chris Evans first directorial effort. that alone is enough for me to be interested in seeing it. in addition, according to the story summary, he plays a street musician who meets and helps the girl throughout their attempt to get her out of the city and to her home in Boston before her husband gets there. along the way, they get to know each other and themselves.

so all of this talk of "the dark underbelly" seem ridiculous. every city, no matter the size, has areas that people tell you not to go into. NYC has the not walking through Central Park after dark, not taking the numbered trains etc. but, i wonder how many of you have ended up in a city you are not familiar with and found yourself uncomfortable with the area of that city you are in.

i like the premise. i do not know the train schedules of NYC to Boston. maybe 1:30 was the last train OR it was the train she needed to take to get home before her husband. what about her husband? why does she have to be home before him? how does she meet the street musician played by Chris? lots of unknowns exist and i just have to laugh to see you boil over something that you know nothing about.

imdb, like wikipedia, relies on user-input. who wrote the story summary? i have found, many times, that the movie i watch doesn't match the imdb summaries i read before or after seeing the movie. be patient. get heated over something you know rather than on the unknown.

i really look forward to seeing this. even if it goes straight to DVD, on demand, cable...whatever. i will keep my eye on its development, release dates, etc. hey, maybe the film summary will change? thanks for taking the time to get to this point. *grin*

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Speaking from a person who was there for the world premiere at TIFF, the characters don't get lost in NY. Chris' character Nick knows the city well.
Second, if you're really going to complain about fictional details of a fictional movie, stop watching fictional movies.
Third, I'm a huge Chris Evans fan, so you may want to take that into consideration when reading my review.

Ultimately, it was fantastic. I gave it a 7.5/10.

This movie was creative. It took itโ€™s time. It had thought to it. It had appreciation for conversation and everything that makes us humans.
Evans set out to make an honest conversation film about two people who interact on an intimate level, and he succeeded.
And he was right: this movie was all about the dialogue. The conversation in this was natural, bringing the film to a realistic level from that standpoint.
It meant something. So many movies are overrun with the power of need and fulfillment of Hollywood and this was not catering to that, which is what makes it so original.
I compare this movie to Blue Valentine, Before Sunrise and Before Sunset. So if you didn't like those, chances are you won't like this one.
Finally, let's get something clear. This isn't a romantic comedy. It's a romatic drama.

My favorite part in the film? The psychic.

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Unrealistic? Of course.....well done escapism? Absolutely. Just wish they'd let Alice Eve talk in her natural voice....on second thought, might have passed out and missed the movie...by the by, most unbelievable part of the movie? That anyone would cheat on Alice Eve....please.

On an uncharitable note, it does occur to me that Chris Evans produced and directed this merely for the chance to kiss Alice and say, Cut, nope, gotta do that over....you're a bad man, Chris...and I couldn't admire you more.

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1. First..hate for a movie you havent seen. Shush.
2. As someone who JUST went to NY for the first time. I can tell you I got lost countless times.
3. Hush

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the description of this movie for TIFF seems less edgy and more chick flick.

"Chris Evans makes his directorial debut with this winning romance about two strangers (Evans and Alice Eve, Star Trek: Into Darkness) who spend a long, magical night in NYC after missing the last train at Grand Central Terminal."

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It's not hard to get your bearings there, even for a novice. I was in Manhattan for the first time and must have really looked like the tourist I was, because every ten minutes some New yorker would stop and offer to point me in the direction I needed to go. I've heard about the all the "rude" New Yorkers, but most of them seemed like good folks to me.

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I've gotten lost In my own city of London. I may technically know the name of where I am, but I wouldn't know how to navigate myself around and get home.

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Everyday, man.

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First of all, lost in NYC? impossible unless you look like a raving crack head and even they get money with the right pitch to subway riders.
Cops are everywhere, everyone is all up in your business. Unless you are walking along the West Side highway drunk, you'd be fine. I like to see how they spin this idea.


If it's Manhattan (which it probably is), then you're absolutely right. But if it's the Bronx or Queens, then I could see it.

EDIT: It's a train, so we're dealing with Grand Central, right? I'd imagine she's in/near the heart of Manhattan. Far from a "dark underbelly," lol.

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well- not really.
Trains to Boston leave from Penn Station, that is in a different area- and while Times Square area got cleaned up and the area around Grand Central has always been commercial and friendly, not as much Penn Station.
aside from this being a 2008 post- The Amtrak trains (and most metro trains) stop for a few hours in the middle of the night (wheteher GC or Penn). I grew up in NY and many friends were mugged just outside of Penn Station. I had just dropped one friend off when she got mugged literally in the station. Luckily she had no money in her wallet and all she had in her purse were a pair of glasses, her license, cell, and one credit card. she had her ticket & a few bucks in a pocket. otherwise- she would have been USC.
walk to where? I lived way north of NYC, and she out on Long Island. most payphones don't work. she would have had to wander a long time- and a person who did not spend a lot of time in NY would not be familiar with all the areas.
I knew someone who moved from a country where crime was very high to London- he had an encounter with crime and told me he thought all developed countries were safer- and I said- every place has no go zones, and if you are unfamiliar with the place one can easily end up in no go's- or even if you know the place- stuff happens.


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