the whiniest Moses Ever!


Did you see this movie? Every second it seems like Moses is whining for some reason or another! God tells Moses to free his people. Moses whines, "I can't do it!" Moses is in the desert, "Why me? Why me?" Moses comes back from the mountain with the commandments, whine, whine, whine. Did you ever see that Moses cartoon? The Prince of Egypt? That was a great Moses! Oh, and Heston was good too.

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If he constantly whines then that's because they actually portrayed what it said in the bible. When i read the bible i too thought the same thing as you because i'd just seen Moses in versions like the prince of egypt. Unfortunately, he isn't like that.

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Do you read the Bible?

Read it, you may well be very surprised.

Moses was always whining to God, that is why God send his brother with him to talk to Pharaoh.

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I totally agree! what a whiner. I also think in this one Moses was a hypocrite. Like when That guy and that lady drown her husband and Moses says to her that when he killed someone, his punishment was that the man's ghost visited him every day. But then for her punishment, he kills her with rocks! This Moses was so unlikeable. Now Heston, that's a good Moses!

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On what evidence do you say that Moses wrote Deuteronomy?

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Moses himself claimed to have written it as ordered by God. Throughout the Bible other authors, both Old and New Testament, state that The Law (which means the first 5 books, not just the 10 Commandments) was written by Moses. It has been a traditional assumption in all Judeo-Christian religions to be the case. In the past few hundred years all traditional assumptions have been subject to opposing theories, this among them. There is no more proof that he did NOT than that he DID, so - if he (and people much closer to his time than we or the theorists) claims to be the author, why should we doubt it?

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Throughout scripture, the Lord has used the brokenhearted, weak, and those ostracized by society to carry out His plans. He does this, so there is no mistake that the power and glory belong to Him. Moses began as a fearless soldier, raised in a royal Egyptian family. He was considered bold, outspoken, and courageous. However, his confidence was based on the belief, that he had earned and/or was given status and power among men.

Note: God is always steps ahead of anything we can even imagine. The Lord had plans for Moses from the moment he was placed in the basket and set on water.

Eventually Moses killed a man, and was left to roam the desert without any of his riches and earthly recognition. When God has plans for us, in order to transform our spirits(regardless of what we've done), He will test and discipline us in various ways, and do whatever it takes to seperate us from the world. This brings us closer to God, and we are literally reborn in spirit.

Only then, do we become empty vessels, humble, and able to understand, that true power comes from the Holy Spirit which dwells within us, and not from ourselves or earthly riches or power. This is why Moses felt He was so unworthy. He had been humbled and did not have the same personality and mind from His days in Egypt. He was slowly learning to depend on God completely and grow in Faith. Though we trust God, our flesh will sometimes become weak, and may whine, complain, or sin. Let's not forget how God put Jonah in his place.

The fact that Moses doubted himself, yet accomplished so much, shows that it was the Holy Spirit working through him. Numbers 12:3 says Moses was more humble than any other man on the face of the earth. We are of no use to the Lord, if we depend on our own abilities and human self-confidence.

Oh well, I may check out the new version just to see for myself. :)

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Do yuo have any evidence for this rant?

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Throughout scripture, the Lord has used the brokenhearted, weak, and those ostracized by society to carry out His plans.

Why doesn't he just do what he wants himself? Why the need for intermediaries? Why talk through a burning bush, for instance?

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How silly, you guys. The real Moses was not a whiner. Maybe you ought to pay more attention to the inference in the bible. God called him the meekest man alive. There were a few places were he wasn't at best. But it was in no way a continuous thing. Your comments are mostly very silly. And yes, the movie's Moses was an annoying whiner, very very much unlike the real Moses.

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Moses whined the whole time-from the time God called him to free Israel through the whole time he led the Israelites through the wilderness.

Read your Bible.

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I agree with wafflefanny40. Moses told God his doubts all the time, see http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus&version=KJV


Exodus 3

10Come now therefore, and I will send thee unto Pharaoh, that thou mayest bring forth my people the children of Israel out of Egypt.

11And Moses said unto God, Who am I, that I should go unto Pharaoh, and that I should bring forth the children of Israel out of Egypt?

12And he said, Certainly I will be with thee; and this shall be a token unto thee, that I have sent thee: When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, ye shall serve God upon this mountain.

13And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.



Exodus 4


1And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee.

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10And Moses said unto the LORD, O my LORD, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.

11And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

12Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt say.

13And he said, O my LORD, send, I pray thee, by the hand of him whom thou wilt send.

14And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.

15And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.

16And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.

17And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs.



Exodus 5

20And they met Moses and Aaron, who stood in the way, as they came forth from Pharaoh:

21And they said unto them, The LORD look upon you, and judge; because ye have made our savour to be abhorred in the eyes of Pharaoh, and in the eyes of his servants, to put a sword in their hand to slay us.

22And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, LORD, wherefore hast thou so evil entreated this people? why is it that thou hast sent me?

23For since I came to Pharaoh to speak in thy name, he hath done evil to this people; neither hast thou delivered thy people at all.


Exodus 33

12And Moses said unto the LORD, See, thou sayest unto me, Bring up this people: and thou hast not let me know whom thou wilt send with me. Yet thou hast said, I know thee by name, and thou hast also found grace in my sight.

13Now therefore, I pray thee, if I have found grace in thy sight, shew me now thy way, that I may know thee, that I may find grace in thy sight: and consider that this nation is thy people.

14And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

15And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence.

16For wherein shall it be known here that I and thy people have found grace in thy sight? is it not in that thou goest with us? so shall we be separated, I and thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth.

17And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.

18And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.


So, IMO Moses is questioning all the time the will of God and his own abilities. In this sense the 2006 film agrees very well with the bible. IMO Moses is described in the bible not as a hero but as a humble yet strong man.

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