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INDIAN FILMS SUCK BIG TIME


As an Indian, I am utterly ashamed at the standard of this movie and others like it. Movies like this are an insult to our intelligence, but the problem is too many people are oblivious to it. Directors and writers in Bollywood continue to poke fun at us by making such horrendously bad movies with little or no meaningful story. Yet Indians flock to cinemas in enormous hordes not only in India but around the world, committed to watch a brand of cinema which can be summed up as pathetic.

Indians it seems are enthralled by beautiful girls, shamefully tacky special effects and diabollically poor acting. Indian cinema, especially Bollywood cinema continues to try and 'Americanise', i.e. with the constant sexual overtones, techno-filled songs and the glitzy special effects and even worse, the shameless product placement. Just because it is taboo for couples to kiss and have simulated sex on a screen in India, it is ok to have them flaunting around in minimal clothing, dancing like wild geese in the rain and including words like 'touch me' and 'kiss me' in their songs. We cannot seem to overcome this imbalance. We are committed to 'Americanise' i.e. proclaim to the rest of the world that yes Indians are indeed attractive people and sexually active, yet we ban it from our screens, making all our love scenes seem like mindless Coke commercials. This is pathetic and must stop. We must accept the fact that try as we might, Bollywood will never be Hollywood, and no amount of mediocre, bullet-time fight scenes, bikinis, fancy shooting locations or tacky english filled sentences will overcome this.

In light of my rant, it is now time to address the movie at hand. I came out of it shaking my head in utter disbelief, demanding the 2 hours of my life back. Not even the gratuitous shots of Aishwarya Rai could save a pitifully poor movie. Yet, people keep turning a blind eye to the fact that this movie was the epitome of all things bad about Indian cinema. Consider this, 32% of voters gave this 10/10, calling this a stupendous masterpiece. This trash is apparently worthy of a 10 in the minds of an alarmingly large chunk of people. Were these people watching the same movie? They probably blissfully neglected Hritik's pathetic impressions of Batman, or the shocking scene where Hritik and Aishwarya are playing a GAME OF BASKETBALL for *beep* sake.

Please, directors of Bollywood, the madness must stop. I'm sure I'm not alone when I voice my discontent at the declining standards of Indian cinema, an industry which seems hell-bent of forsaking its Indian identity for the sake of billions if not trillions of dollars of revenue. Stop mocking our intelligence. People are crying out for films of substance, not over-glorified, idolatry nonsence.

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I TOTALLY AGREE!!

I personally think BOLLYWOOD SHOULD STICK WHAT IT IS BEST - LOVE STORIES!!!!

Movies like DEVDAS, KABHI KHUSHI KABHI GHAm & the RECENTLY RELEASED VIVAH is hat bollywood should stick to as THESE MOVIES WERE FANTASTIC!!


DHOOM 2 WAS HORRIBLE

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...you dont have to watch every bollywood movie. you can watch only the love stories if you want. if you dont like how bollywood does action then dont watch those movies. why do you care if others like it? you go watch your little movies and we'll watch ours. sometimes our fav movies will be different. so what? you're comments are silly.

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alright keep watching mindless rubbish while i sift through the mess for a decent movie

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They are not going to stop this action cr@p. This movie is the biggest top grossing movie of all time in India. This is only going to encourage more of this nonsense.

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salaam namaste is ridiculous with theirs.

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okkkkkayy...just because you all dont like it doesnt mean its meaningless crap. All other 'types' (American, French, Indina, etc.) of cinema have good and bad movies.

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First of all why do you have to depend on your English friends for the approval of this movie or why Indians have to prove themselves to the world. If we are good then the world will come to us. It is simple as that.
Second Dhoom2 might be a technological milestone in Bollywood, but the movie was a crap.As the whole world is now one and distances don't matter, I as a consumer and movie audience do not differentiate between Hollywood or Bollywood. What matters to me is that I have a limited time to devote to movies and I should use it wisely. So i try to watch movies which might be good rather than thinking on the lines of Hollywood or Bollywood. So if I want to watch technological milestones then there are a lot of Hollywood movies to choose from(MI being one of them which frankly I did not like very much). And Bollywood can not surpass Hollywood in this department because Bollywood does not have access to the kind of funds that Hollywood has.
As bollywood can not compete in technological department it should emphasize on other department like story or script which to me is a major factor in the overall quality of the film. As i earlier said that I loved Lage Raho, No Entry, the surprise end of new Don etc., so I do not have any problem with Bollywood. I love to watch good quality Bollywood movies in my mother tongue Hindi. I live in Delhi so unlike you I don't have any hangover over my roots.
BTW I don't understand what you mean by "advanced modern films"

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Wait - is someone comparing Dil se to Dhoom 2? Technological advance be damned. I want some mental advance in films - they should not be made for eight year olds and written by eight year olds unless they clearly advertise themselves as such.

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I completely agree Neeraj..

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Devdas!! K3G!! These movies were equally horrible!! Rich ppl, lots of songs , unnecessary melodrama , this is actually the second category of films that needs to stop being made in Bollywood !!

If only we could have more movies like Anand, Bawarchi, Masoom etc that deal with ACTUAL not fake emotions!!


P.S - Amitabh bachan should be barred from acting as a dad in all these big banner movies!!

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dhoom 2 stunt sequences put the MI series to shame ... its time that holly*f!!!ing*wood took a few pointers from d2 ... hrithik looks gorgeous ... move over clooney or ford or whoever it is ... and bips and ash just sizzle ... top stuff

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You're joking right?

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A place will be reserved in the biggest mental asylum in the world for you, I am working on it.

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What planet are you on? You need to be put in the biggest mental asylum in the world, I will work on it straight away.

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QUOTE:

by - axl-rose-2 on Sun Jan 7 2007 08:57:43 dhoom 2 stunt sequences put the MI series to shame ... its time that holly*f!!!ing*wood took a few pointers from d2 ... hrithik looks gorgeous ... move over clooney or ford or whoever it is ... and bips and ash just sizzle ... top stuff

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umm yea, right... hrithik disguised as an old guy gets into a gutter and comes out in 3 secs out of the other one with roller skates, cleaned-up face, back brushed hair, sunglasses... wtf? is he like a superman or sumthin? Don was way better if u look it at that way. Wonder how anyone liked this piece of trash!

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what is wrong with you? you do realise all the names youve mentioned that you think "suck" are the big hits? yea fine...you dont like those types of movies, ok thats your opinion...but have you ever thought that others dont share your same "style" fo movie and might have different opinions...you dont have 2 keep trashing the movies or the people that like them....if you hate them so much dont bother watching them in the first place...every1 knew D:2 was going 2 be packed with action...if you dont like that type y waste your time? or do u only go 2 watch these movies so u can laugh and trash them??? sum life you have

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ok charmed frever i apologise profusely if I offended you and your film, you were one of the people who gave this movie a 10/10 i presume?

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no i didnt say 10/10 ..maybe a 9...i agree there is not much of a story line but it was still very entertaining

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hi you seem to confuse indian moives with mumbai cinemas nicknamed bollyhood. dhoom 2 i agree with u was not one of brightest or outstanding moive it worked because of hrithik only. but then this was a film which catered to mass it delivers it entertains. india cinema is also made up of adoor gopalkrishnan, sandeep sawant,s marathi flick shwaas ,mohanlal,s vanaprastham kamal hasan,s virumandi and lago rahey munnabhai. check some regional movies before commenting whole of indian cinema.yashraj who produced this movie also came with kabul express one month after this flick was screened did u check that out?
I do not want to be arrogonant but if you show your ignorance i will show my knowledge

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i agree with the original poster...at least we hv "water" n "the namesake"

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Lies All Lies Dhoom 2 Rocked and I can't wait for the next filM
Pease Out!!!!!!!!!!

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Indian films suck..have always suckd..will always suck!!..No wonder brown people get poked fun at more than other races. Indian girls are pretty in da movies..but damn, even Paris Hilton's acting is less annoying. If they wanna copy action from american movies, why cant they copy something good? When you copy action the quality and the enjoyability degrades anyway, so we have these indian movies that copy action from crappy american action sequences or american movies of a total different category ( i remember once i saw a scene where they copy some fight scenes from Matrix to make a fight scene in a basketball court..Salman Kahn?? i think). Indian movies are better off if they recategorized their movies in to the same group as Scary movie series, epic movie and date movie. Atleast those movies the action is copied exaggerated and tampered with for comical reasons. Indian movies copy, exaggerate and make an entire mess of stuff and make it all serious...I did enjoy Dhoom 2, but in a way i enjoyed the Scary Movie Series and the epic movie and date movie.

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Personally i agree. but there are some non mainstream movies that are actually very good and speak to the quality of films india can put out if they were to stop focusing on major star power, action packed, loved stories, or utterly stupid films.

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Thats a stupid generalisation, yes bollywood does churn out crap like dhhom 2 & KANK, but take a time out & watch, RDB, Lage raho Munna bhai, Bas Ek Pal, Corporate,Fanaah,Sarkar,Golmaal, Omkara, these are qualityy entertainesr from the last few months alone. so take it easy with the insults.

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Yes , and THANK GOD FOR THAT!!! We are not that crappy!!!!!

Strange. First you say what makes sense (Intelligent cinema will always be there , and so will be brainless entertainers.) and then you turn around and say the same rubbish like the rest, be it anti Bollywood or anti Hollywood. As if Hollywood did not produce every year several superior films together with the rest.

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Since when do movies have to be watched for the message they convey, as opposed to for sheer escapism? Some of us define 'entertainment' differently than you apparently do.

I quite enjoyed this movie; good-looking people, a love story, bikes zooming about, energetic soundtrack, a few bad jokes mixed in, wot more do you need? I have to admit, I quite like movies where I don't have to think too much. Just as I enjoy movies which challenge me intellectually, or which have a deeper meaning.

Indian cinema offers plenty of choice in any genre you might be interested in. Are you implying that you had no clue what you were in for when you went to watch this movie? And that it has changed your entire perception of Indian cinema?

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I totally agree, But dont say "All Indian cinemas". I come from an Indian state where we use lot of brain to watch our movies. But when we watch Hindi movies I have to admit, we just have to train our brains not to think of any logic. Only Don needed some thinking. Few months back I watched the movie "No Entry" and was totally shocked to see the movie standard and body exposure. But I agree many people have different taste.

This just my opinion.

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i agree, they should stick to what they know, but i have to say that i did enjoy don very much.

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India is a contry of more than one billion............and if dhoom 2 wud have been worthy of *beep* .........indians wud have disgraced it by not going to see it........not by making it the biggest grosser .........see ppl like u are ashamed of being indian come wat may..........i too like hollywood movies bt thats no way to treat a bollywood movie..........u know dhoom 2 cud have used better special effects bt then the creative head of the film thinks that in india we have winkers like u who r neve gonna watch an indian movie inspite of being an Indian now dat sucks..............and i must tell u ........worldwide bollywood has got 3.8 billion fans as compared to hollywood of 3 billion...........and also the opening weekend.......it was on 4 th number in uk box office and 9 in the US

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If u have logic and can use it properly, from any angle u will find this movie as a meaningless and pointless with lots of nonsense scene that does not make any sense but tries to deceive innocent Indian pal.

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I am 15 years old and I am in a fully fledged Indian Family who enjoy Indian cinema. I, personally, have never been a fan but after watching 2 brilliant Indian Films, Rang De Basanti and Omkara, i willfully agreed to watch Dhoom 2. What followed was so excruciating I would have gladly chosen to do 100 lengths in a 50 metre pool full of horse *beep* and then manually rip my own bollocks off. Yes, it was meant to be an enjoyable action film but there was no originality in it whatsoever. And even the most o.t.t action films have a tiny sense of realism in them, however, the brainless script writers of this pathetic film all agree that the Queen would place her most priceless possession in the hands of guards who cannot even aim their gun right. And, I do not care what anyone says, Aishwariya cannot act. She will get a good seeing to but she can't act. She's in the business purely for her looks which means she should be restricted to magazines and posters or only play small roles. I think it is cruel to make the public pay to see her pathetic acting skills. Abishek Bhachan is a prat, but that's just opinion.
All ideas in this film have been extracted from old Hollywood action films, and they have been extracted so poorly it is pathetic. This accounts for everthing, from the style of dialogue to the persona of the characters to the stunts and theft sequences.
It just begs the question; India is not lacking in brilliant minds so why can't we see some originality and proper actors like the Amir Khans and Ajay Devkans instead of constantly being forced to watch *beep* like that provided by those who are only successful due to their heritage or sexiness like the Abishek Bachans and Aishwariya Rais?

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if d2 doesnt make sense does any of the *beep* bond movies make sence wid all those idiotic gadgets,.............and also to remind u that bollywood has just touched the special effect feature in their films and no ody is perfect.........respect it rather deenying it

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your saying I'm ashamed to be Indian due to our piss poor cinema standards? I think your the one here who should be ashamed since you are trying to come up with reasons for watching this movie. Maybe your right something is wrong with me if I'm the only one thinking a nation of one billion people and 3.8 billion worldwide as you say succumb to such crass entertainment. Also another thing learn to string a few coherent sentences together

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shut the *beep* up......you call it crass entertainment..........then y did u watch it on the first place.....ur a bloody *beep* hypocryte ....... if u have such tremendous hatred for bollywood films then y do u watch them

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the poster is generalising his opinion about indian cinema....thats' totally crap.

that said...u cannot say all indian movies are crap and u're ashamed of being an Indian. So you would have been proud if india were produce holly wood type of movies?....lol...that's ridiculous...there's much more in our nation to be proud of.....

i agree with you that dhoom2 was crap...an utter disaster and yet so many ppl liked it which is what amazes me. according to me it should've been names krrish 2. that would've made sense and there would be some kinda logic atleast behind all hrithik's stunts..lol.....

worst part of the movie was towards the end...the last robbery.....how on earth can u explain that they became dwarfs and walked out of the museum??...that was *beep* was laughing like crazy when i saw that...

someone posted earlier in this thread about idiotic bond movie gadgets and stuff....it may be idiotic but its still believable...the movie is made that way....in dhoom2 we are expected to believe that a normal human being like hrithik's character can pull off some stunts even a cartoon character couldn't (lol...just a bit exxageration!)....

but i guess u got my point...


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bollywood get a life u suck bigtime

another sucker hindi movie havent watched it dont want to either

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I completely agree with the OP. In terms of quality, the vast majority - 90% or (probably) more - of "Bollywood" films, IN MY OPINION (so, please, don't make any unnecessary personal attacks like some of you have done to the OP), are on par with, if not worse than, Hollywood's worst - i.e. the bottom 10%. Admittedly, I haven't seen a large number of number of Bollywood movies, but I can honestly say that I've never been even slightly impressed by an Indian movie; I've seen everything from the insipid and mediocre to the unbearably bad. I don't understand why so many Indians, all around the world, keep watching this stuff. Bollywood movies are, by the overwhelming majority, pathetic. Yes, movies like this aren't intended to be masterpieces or even to make you think, but at least most of the English-language action films I've seen have impressive special effects, good acting and at least SOME - but usually plenty of - story and thought put into them. Most American or British comedies are actually funny, and in being funny, they're typically witty and smart.

Also (and I have to say this doesn't really apply to Dhoom 2), it's like the people who make these movies have something to prove; they want to say they're "Americanized", but at the same time, a large number of these films (and some of the people who watch them) go out of their way to retain their non-Western "goodness" by not showing sex (but instead filling their films with the extended "dance sequences" that are far more gratuitous than anything in most of US cinema).

And add to that the lack of originality in the stories and characters of many Bollywood movies (by this, I mean musical romances, not movies like Dhoom 2), and I strongly disbelieve that there are any admirable qualities in mass Bollywood cinema.

(I'm really sorry for ranting so much. Thanks to anyone who's actually read all of this!)

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You're welcome

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Vande Mataram

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the problem with indian cinema is that they need to stop copying the fu'ken hollywood movies and come up with their own shwit. when would these directors learn to make a movie w/o copying a scene from another movie. the only movies that are good or they do well on box-office and related to government or politics 'cause we all know what's going on with the indian government. as it was shown in rang de basanti. most of the movies in bollywood are related to relationships, love stories, ghosts and all that other crap. i mean jeez, we're sick of it. come up with something new.
p.s. hazaron khwahishein aisi was awesome
and that's just my opinion not a fact

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AMEN BROTHER!!

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im sista

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