It's a ball and you keep it around with your feet, football, simple. Whose iea was it to name the American b*stardisation of rugby football, when its mainly throwing catching and running? Sorry to bang on about it but it irritates me that now people in Britain are starting to call it soccer as well.
share..it's just a word. get over it.
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The reason Americans call it soccer is because we had Football *first* and then we learned about European football ~100 years later, but we obviously couldn't call it the same thing. So instead we called it "soccer". It's obvious to anyone who's not being an anti-american dic
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why are people so defensive about this? haven't they ever heard the "you say tomato, i say tomahto, you say potato, i say potahto" song?
it may be wrong, but when i hear people make comments like that, their IQ immediately drops about 50 points in my estimation. it's still the same game, whether we call it football or soccer or anything else. what exactly is up the collective british *ss (excluding those who are more easygoing, of course) about what anybody else chooses to name something? wasn't it good old will shakespeare, the pre-eminant brit himself, who said 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'? get off your friggin' high horse and find some tongs. i promise you'll feel much better afterwards.
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
It's just a simple dialectical difference. It's not the only one between English and American English. Neither word is wrong.
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Well, there's the Canadian Football League, and there's also the NFL Europe League.
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I don't know. I just know your original quesstion was: how many other countries seriously play American Football? So I thought I would answer it.
shareI didn't actually mean that there was an entirely different language called American English. I was just using that to differentiate between the vocabulary used in America and the vocabulary used in England. For instance, in England there are biscuits, lifts, and football. In America there are cookies, elevators, and soccer. I didn't mean to offend anybody with my statement.
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And God forbid you ask someone here if they want to "smoke a fag".....lol TOTALLY different thing...
shareand the reason those choose the word Soccer is?
Because It is Soccer in Europe as well? Am I wrong?
So when you say Soccer... no more confusion. The average American will not know that you are talking about soccer, when you say 'FootBall'. You gotta figure that 50% of all traffic on this site is from the US. Probably higher right? So in order to help the Americans understand what we are talking about you say 'Soccer'. Also the europeans know this word as well?
Because the average European knows more than the average American. Right?
So you can say 'Soccer' with pride! Because you'll need to stoop to the American level to post on this site anyway...hehe
As an Englishman who doesn't particularly like Football, i often see people hate it referenced as Soccer. The game 'IS' Football though as an English Sport, but when it went global there other types of Football, not just American Football, which people often blame the name Soccer from originating. In many countries there would be games of a similar nature. The name soccer simply comes from making one of the sports superior, globally identifiable and easier to market. It is just that the country which did this wasn't English, so whilst to everyone else it is Soccer, to the English it will always be Football.
I don't see a problem with either name, only idiots really care about it that much, but then the game was built, corrupted and raped by idiots and crooks so in a way they made it what it is and as proud as a dog is of an old chewed up bone, so are football 'fans' proud of what they made of 'English' Football.
But that is a story similar of most national sports in most countries. Just shows how alike we are.
the reason people get irked is...what? you never answered it. yes, we know many, many people call it football, and i don't think anybody expects you to start calling it soccer. we are happy to call it what we want and let you guys call it what you want. it doesn't take a genius to get that something can have two different names. so why should anyone get upset that we call it something different?
the reality is, we in america and canada will not ever call soccer football. ever. unless, of course, we are in europe, in which case it is simply courtesy to use native terms. but that's besides the point. the point is, here in the americas, we have what you call american football, which is at the moment vastly more popular than soccer here. in fact, i'd go so far as to say college football by itself is vastly more popular than soccer, as evidenced by regularly sold-out stadiums versus MLS' sparse turnouts. we have used the term football to refer to, well, football, for a very long time, and nobody but nobody is going to change their vocabulary because a few jerks across the ocean can't wrap their mind around the concept of synonyms. as i said, we don't expect you to call it soccer. if you expect us to start calling it football (ever), then you will be disappointed your entire lives. just get over it already and learn to accept.
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
arespilgrim37,
Uh, yes, there is such a thing as "American English". It has many different rules of syntax and spelling. There is no "Canadian English" because there are no "Canadian English" rules of grammar (the same goes for the other examples you mentioned, I believe). You want to criticize people for using the word "soccer" rather than "football", but you don't even understand the difference between American English and British English.
Oh, and in answer to your question, "how many other countries seriously play American Football?" may I refer you to:
http://www.nfleurope.com/
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How many Europeans are actually a part of NFL Europe? There are like 4 non-Americans on the Frankfurt Lions team. Woooh...that really proves a lot. American football over there gets less attention than soccer does over here.
share Well now, that wasn't the question was it? The question was how many "countries" play the game. The poster didn't ask how many "Europeans" play on the teams. That is a bit different.
Do college teams recruit from only their home states? Do pro teams recruit only from their geographic areas? No and no. Staffing a team is a separate issue from league or team location.
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Your point would be???? Only about 15% of the NHL are Americans and yet ALL but 6 teams are in the U.S. There are more Europeans playing in the NHL then Americans, but that doesn't mean it isn't played in the U.S.
shareMy point would be that NFL Europe is almost entirely made up of one country. It would be like British people starting a cricket league in the US, calling it the Royal Cricket League or something, and recruiting all of four Americans to play on each team out of a team of 50. I'm sure Americans would just love that one too, eh? American as apple pie. Please. Every team in Europe regardless of the sport has people on it from different countries. But almost all from one country that isn't their own? I think not.
shareThis conversation is dead and gone, but I just love the fact that after just a couple weeks of this argument, NFL Europe disbanded because they were reportedly losing about $30 million a season. Hahahaha!
share>There is no "Canadian English" because there are no "Canadian English" rules of grammar ...
Really? There are no rules of grammar to Canadian English? I'm not sure that's what you meant. English is definitely spoken in Canada and they are able to understand each other so there must be some rules.
wot do you mean there is not American English?
Why do you think in England/Canada (don't know about Australia, but I'm assume)
Americans spell:
Color to Colour
Airplane to Aeroplane
Flavor to Flavour
and many many others... There is a definite differene!
I agree that the name 'Football' should stick. But of course in the US if you say 'Football' you'd have to explain it.
So it is easier to say Soccer. I'm assuming that anybody even in the remotest parts of England would still know what Soccer means correct?
In Australia, we call Rugby League = football
Soccer is called soccer
There are a lot of differences of words between England and America. Europeans say Petrol and Boot, Americans say Gas and Trunk. Does that mean that one of us is wrong? No. Just different words for the same thing.
to be sure of hitting the target... shoot first and whatever you hit, call the target.
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it may be wrong, but when i hear people make comments like that, their IQ immediately drops about 50 points in my estimation. it's still the same game, whether we call it football or soccer or anything else. what exactly is up the collective british *ss (excluding those who are more easygoing, of course) about what anybody else chooses to name something? wasn't it good old will shakespeare, the pre-eminant brit himself, who said 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'? get off your friggin' high horse and find some tongs. i promise you'll feel much better afterwards.
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Nobody in the world says "potahto" so I don't know where those lyrics came from. Maybe because it rhymes.
shareFootball (the American, or as I call it correct version) is a sport. Soccer (or as the rest of the world wants to call it, football) is a game. That's the main difference.
sharewell that's just ridiculous. care to explain?
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
"Football (the American, or as I call it correct version) is a sport. Soccer (or as the rest of the world wants to call it, football) is a game. That's the main difference."
er? how do you explain that?
both are "sports" and both are "games"
what's your definition of a sport then?
What I'm mainly referring to is the ridiculous ways soccer players flop around after the most incidental contact, get carried off on stretchers, act half dead, and then "miraculously" return to play. Football is a much more physical activity and the players get right back up after a play unless there's a real injury. Also, the whole yellow and red card thing feels more like a board (or is it bored) game than a sporting event.
share"Now" British people are starting to call it soccer? You're an idiot. The term "soccer" was invented by a Brit named Charles Wreford-Brown as an abbreviation for "Association Football", which followed Football Associate rules rather than rugby rules.
Furthermore, American football is an evolution of the original football just like soccer and rugby are. All three are good games, and calling one a b*stardation is ridiculous.
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shareYou'll get over it. And if you don't...well, no one really cares.
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To the original poster... here's a little tidbit for you, the word Soccer started in England. It was an abbreviation for Association Football. Things just coming full circle.
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Good Point CShopper. Truth be told, American's have Soccer, Football AND Rugby. We can't use the same name for soccer and football, and we cant use the same name for football and rugby. Who cares if there is variation amongst countries. It is still the same game
shareIn Australia, they play Australian Rules, Rugby League, Rugby Union (2 different games), soccer, and gridiron.
Depending on what state you live in, "football" refers to the type of game mentioned above. For example, in Victoria, "football" refers to Australian Rules.
Well, I am in the US (born and raised here) and I have to stop myself from calling it football.
I understand what the person said about American football being a sport and international football(soccer) being a game. If you are not familiar with the idea it is very hard to explain. It is the way it is played.
There is a vast difference in how "soccer" is played in the US and how it is played internationally. Here in the US it is played more like a sport, which is why we don't do well in international competition. It is also why the MLS has failed to do well. May supporters here in the US tend to follow interntaional clubs instead of MLS.... for instance... when the LA Galaxy plays international friendlies with any Mexican teams the attendance almost doubles. I watch the English Premiere League on digital cable.. usually long after the game has actually been played live, but I prefer it to MLS.
International football really is a "beautiful game" and not just a sport.
It's called Soccer in America, no matter how much it bothers you.
shareIt's a ball and you keep it around with your feet, football, simple.And hockey is hitting a puck with a stick but it's not called stipuck.
..that now people in Britain are starting to call it soccer as well.
why are people so defensive about this? haven't they ever heard the "you say tomato, i say tomahto, you say potato, i say potahto" song?share
it may be wrong, but when i hear people make comments like that, their IQ immediately drops about 50 points in my estimation. it's still the same game, whether we call it football or soccer or anything else. what exactly is up the collective british *ss (excluding those who are more easygoing, of course) about what anybody else chooses to name something? wasn't it good old will shakespeare, the pre-eminant brit himself, who said 'a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'? get off your friggin' high horse and find some tongs. i promise you'll feel much better afterwards.
lol, stipuck.
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
It's called Soccer in America, no matter how much it bothers you.
it's perfectly logical, considering that it's just a shortening of the name of our country. it's not intentionally meant to leave anybody out. most people refer to themselves by their country, not their continent.
still, i see what you mean. kind of the same (but opposite) is how the british refer to all americans as "yanks." inaccurate and highly offensive to some geographical regions.
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
Hey,
I live here and it bothers me. Whenever I am abroad, I say I am from the US, or from "the states".
It is actually shorter and faster to say that "America"
I totally see your point. I was going to say that since both US and Canada are on the American continent, then we are both American's so the phrase "It's called Soccer in America" is a true statement. But then Mexico is also on the American continent and the sport is called football there so that messes that up.
Would 50 lashes with a wet noodle be sufficient?
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I personally think that American football should be called handball since it's clear that most of the time in American football you use your hands. Then soccer would be free to be called football. In reality though, I don't really care all that much. :)
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After all this arguing the original poster still has a good point. I'm from Finland and it irritates the sh*t out of me that Americans call the king of all games (or sports) soccer. The name is football everywhere in the world. Then there is American "foot""ball". The game is not mainly played by feet and is not even played with a ball. The game itself is interesting and I like to watch it but it is not football. Unfortunately handball is taken, it could be a good name for American football (except that it still wouldn't have a ball).
shareso we should change our entire vocabulary regarding two massively popular sports because it annoys the sh*t out of you? sorry, but it really doesn't matter whether everyone else in the world calls it football or not (which, by the way, is an incorrect assumption in the first place). WE haven't called soccer "football" ever, and we have an entire other game that we already call football. we aren't going to change our way of life (and yes, football is a way of life to many people) simply because you are easily annoyed. it just isn't going to happen.
"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"
I personally think that American football should be called handball since it's clear that most of the time in American football you use your hands.Then what are they going to call handball? share
Lol deck. You have a point. Anyway, I'm from Australia and people here call "football" soccer. And alotta ppl from China call it soccer. I'm not sure about Japan and other countires though...
shareThat's not quite right...most people in China call it football not soccer. They tend to watch the English Premiership and so get the word from there. Besides American Football isn't very popular there it is mainly football(soccer), basketball and table tennis!
I'm English and call it football. However I don't give a damn what other countries call it. It's their language as well.
Tell a Mexican or a Canadian that they are actually "American" and see what happens. Really. I dare ya.
shareActually it is futbal, so we avoid football on a technicality...it is a different language so it doesn't count. A cat is gato in Spanish, still means the same animal.
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There are three large countries on the North American Continent. Two of them are: The United States of America and The United States of Mexico.
Hence, Americans and Mexicans.
Lighten up.
>I actually don't really care that it is called soccer in the US and Canada... but it absolutely irks me when people use "America" to refer only to the US.
But US, "United States", isn't the name of the country and could refer to several other coutries like Mexico or even Australia. What do you think the "A" in USA stands for? Since "US" or "The States" is every bit as ambiguous as "America", what would you call the country?
Did you know that the US was once popularly called "Columbia"? Columbia is a feminized version of Columbus and is depicted as a female version of Uncle Sam. I learned a song about America in grade school called, "Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean" and Columbia still shows up in American place names like Columbia University and Washington DC, (District of Columbia).
Then somebody went and named an entirely different country Colombia, (slightly different spelling), so the USA still had a bit of an identity crisis. Other names were suggested but "The United States of America" stuck and most people are smart enough to be able to distinguish the shortened name "America" - the country, from "The Americas" - the so called New World continents.
yeah, at the whole "stipuck" crack, you have to admit the OP has a point... it sounds does a bit foolish, the american game being called 'football', where you use your hands (except those field goal kicks, i think), as opposed to the game they call 'soccer', where you only use your feet (except the goalie, of course)...
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I know how you feel. Everytime I start to talk about football(soccer) everyone gets confused. And believe me people were getting confused alot because all I was talking about is how we made The Great Escape. Go Irons!
anyway, it's the same problem I have with driveway and parkway. You park in a driveway and drive on a parkway. Why? I live in the US, always have, and have always called 'soccer' football because it just makes more sence. same goes for rugby and netball.
Yes but when females play in America it should be called Soccer because to win you must "sock her". You know whack her good in the face. I believe this is the derivation of the word from 6000 years ago. This was caveman times. I learned this stuff at a museum in Kansas.
shareAlthough most countries say football, North America did not "invent" the term soccer. You should update your history knowledge. The word soccer started in Britain from the use of "Football Association League" which eventually got shortened to SOC, then soccer. As the sport became popular after American "Football" was popular. The term Soccer stuck. Any other country already having had their own "football" would have done similarly. Google it.
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