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I told you so! CBC disowns Douglas biopic


I told you so! The Tommy Douglas biopic has been judged by CBC-TV itself to be so dangerously innaccurate that the network has withdrawn it from future programming and has stopped selling copies of it.

All of this was announced today by the CBC, which added that it had submitted this widely criticized movie to an unnamed historian for review and comment. Producer Kevin De Walt had long been telling anyone who would listen that the cinematic requirement for a clear, identifiable hero and villain had forced the writer and director to shape the honourable and decent Gardiner into a Hitleresque caricature. De Walt is one of the most annoying people in the Canadian film production industry, but he has inadvertently raised an interesting point: if audiences are so shallow and simple that they need such stark, simple protagonists, then perhaps that says more about our collective stupidity than about anything else. Life is rarely acted out in black and white; characters in real life are generally in "shades of gray" with each of them consisting of a mix of virtues and faults. CBC's decision to mothball this production is a much-needed slap in the face to the film industry to work with more care and compassion when producing so-called docudramas.

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This would be the same CBC that pushed forward the biopic two months because of their fear that it might influence people during the elections, yet had no trouble posting a virulently anti-Douglas documentary during the same period, right?

Yes, that would be the same CBC.

I really don't think that the Gardiner family is doing itself any favors by banging away at this. They would be far better served at producing a movie about the life of Jimmy Gardiner and letting people make their own decisions (hey, I'd watch it; I'm curious, now). Insisting on yanking something off the air (after it's been broadcast and come out on DVD, already, sheesh) just implies that the people doing so think the public is too stupid to know the difference between a biopic and a documentary. People don't like being called stupid.

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It is true but I don't know why it was CBC-TV itself, but it is true that the movie is dangerously inaccurate, and I don't know who the writer's were.

I don't believe in Tommy Douglas and I don't think he should be a Canadian martyr. There are plenty more deserving candidates.

The Medicare plan was not even a CCF idea. It was originaly a liberal idea. On election day the CCF said that the liberal plan for universal Medicare would cost everyone too much. That was part of their election platform. The voters believed them and voted the CCF in. So once elected the CCF brought in there own form of Medicare, go figure.

The Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) was a Canadian political party founded in 1932 in Calgary, Alberta, by a number of socialist, farm, co-operative and labour groups, and the League for Social Reconstruction. In 1961, it disbanded and was replaced by the New Democratic Party. The full, but little used, name of the party was Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (Farmer-Labour-Socialist).

The CCF aimed to alleviate the suffering of the Great Depression through economic reform and public "co-operation". Many of the party's first Members of Parliament (MPs) were former members of the Ginger Group of left-wing Progressive and Labour MPs.

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You know, as an historian, I've found it awfully interesting (and convenient) that all of the countertheories in this debate come with no sources (no, unsourced and unevaluated internet sites don't count). Sorry, but without sources, your statements have no value. You could just be making it up as you go along.

There are always going to be different views of history. Since there are radically different views of current events, why should this surprise anyone? When people come out and say "No! This is the real truth!" it just reminds me how ignorant most people are about history--dangerously ignorant.

Tommy Douglas was a controversial figure. This biopic jumped right into the controversies surrounding him from beginning to end. Of course it had some inaccuracies. But not everything being claimed here is an inaccuracy or error. They are, instead, controversial events or trends or movements, ones on which people did not agree at the time and do not agree now. That's a very different thing from errors, which crop up in every single work.

For example, if Jimmie Gardiner put forward an image of himself as a teetotaler, yet liked the odd drink, it is *not* inaccurate to then show him having a drink. It makes me laugh when people trot out the dissatisfactions of much younger family members as proof positive that something was inaccurate. The Braveheart script was written by a descendant of William Wallace and it's one of the most inaccurate pieces of historical tripe out there. Family members very frequently have a vested interest in putting out a specifically sanitised version of their sainted ancestor's life story. That does not make their version more accurate than anyone else's. All that Gardiner's descendants' complaints really show is that they have a vested interest in his being portrayed as a teetotaler who opposed the KKK.

Further, telescoping events has always occurred in movies based on historical persons or events. Complaining about it is a bit like complaining that astronomical posters of the planets are not to scale. No, they're not, but if they were, you could never get a representation of the planets together into one poster and people would have no idea of what their solar system looked like. Similarly, this biopic attempted to give us an idea of what Saskatchewanian politics were like over several decades during the 20th century. I think they did a pretty credible job. Would I take what they said as gospel? Of course not. But I might use it as a teaching aid. You can get as much mileage out of pointing out the inaccuracies (and the reasons behind them) in an historical work as you can showing what it got right--though rarely can anyone really agree on what is "right".

If you didn't like Prairie Giant, I say: Write your own damned biopic and get it out there. Give it to the schools and let the two versions duke it out. The kids will be smarter for it; it'll actually force them to learn some reasoning skills. To yank Prairie Giant off the shelves is censorship, pure and simple, and you cannot argue otherwise. To those of you who approve of such censorship, be very, very careful--censorship always ends up cutting both ways. That's why so many people don't like it.



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I notice that at the very start of the film a little notice comes up that says. "This story is based on real events, but has been fictionalized for dramatic purposes".
That seems to be all the notice I need? Ok, so we won't take this film too seriously...it's still good to see Canadians making movies of a sort.

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To thesnowleopard, thank you for writing such a thougtful and incisive post. You make some excellent points and I enjoyed reading them. I couldn't agree more to remove the DVD from sale is ludicrous. CBC should show this film on a regular basis, this history should be important all Canadians regardless of which side of the political divide you come from. Tommy Douglas was a great man who changed a nation and he should be an inspiration to us all. I'm not Canadian but nevertheless I admire this remarkable man.

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It's still showing in the UK on a minor cable channel - just watched it in fact

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