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Any other Peaceful Warriors out there?


Okay, to start - this is NOT a place to voice opinions about the director and his past. Want that, there's about 80 other threads you can go bat *beep* crazy on.

What I am looking for are those who actually LIKED the movie (if you didn't, please refer to the previous statement) and liked the message it had to convey.

I am would like to hear others' thoughts and feeling on what they were able to walk away with after seeing the movie. Did they go beyond the theatre and look at Dan Millman's book "The Way of the Peaceful Warrior" and his other books as well? Did they check out his website and see the various resources it provides for reading the books?

And for any cynics still reading, I haven't paid a dime for any of Mr. Millman's books or products - I've checked them all out from the city library and got into the free screening promotion opening weekend through Lions Gate. His website is free to access and so are the reading guides provided for each of the three fiction books. I am not affiliated with him or his company in anyway.

With all the negative posts and general negativity, I wanted to find people who understood the message, even if it wasn't in the greatest cinematic form, and found the importantance of living in the moment. Or even the idea to simply *enjoy* life. With the mulitasking, information superhighway kind of society that's emerged, we've forgotten that some of the most illustrious things are the small and perceptively insignificant moments. And even not worrying as much and letting things be. I want to create a positive atmosphere where ideas can be shared and build on some of those I've shared.


Until the journey finds you there,

Max








"You may not agree with me, but that's just my two cents." - Anonymous

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I'm one...Dan Millman's books have changed my life. Depression followed me everywhere I went, I just got out of a messy relationship, my family disowned me, I had basically no one. I went to the bookstore to find something, my brother needed a book for school. So I went to go and get it for him...the title just caught my eye. I literally sat down at Barnes and Noble and read it from start to finish in that one day! I looked around for other books by this man, I found them and I purchased everyone of them...I was hooked. "No Ordinary Moments" is how I live my life, I follow the peaceful warriors way of life. And ya know what I feel so MUCH BETTER about myself. I run 12 miles a day, eat so much better, associate with people I never thought I would, no longer taking life for granted. Working on my issues and learning from all my experiences. Becoming a peaceful warrior changed my life! So thats my story if you want to hear more email me at [email protected]

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This last year has been a year of "change" for me, to say the least. My father knows Dan Millman after working with him at a seminar when I was very young. Dan signed a copy of his books for my brother and I which my father brought home to us. It then became a tradition, or a nightly ritual, if you will, for my dad to read aloud the Peaceful Warrior saga to my brother and I. We were enthralled by the stories of course, but at such young ages, it was quite difficult to harness the ideas chanelled by Dan.

Years passed and I am now a college student. I grew up with my father throughout high school. He is an energy healer who features his work a panoply of different healing modalities. He is a very deep and present man, so much so that it is difficult for many people to be around him because of their anxieties for one reason or another. Thus, very anxious people become uncomfortable around a calm and present individual. For lack of a better choice of a word to express my long and needed "change," I have been 'tainted' by my father and his presence and powerful energy field. So, as my adolescent years continued, it became increasingly intolerable for me to be around many of my friends, not because they were bad people, but because I began to feel their problems and anxieties. My meditative practices brought me to deeper places within myself that I had not visited before. Less and less, I drank alcohol and smoked pot. I finally got to the point where I couldn't handle ther effects of any substance that 'disconnected' me from my energetical senses.

When I was home working one weekend during college, my father took a look at me and smiled, seemingly having read my clean and balanced energy. Later that night, he handed me a new copy of Way of the Peaceful Warrior and told me, "I think its time you read this now." I read it and could not have imagined a better time for me to read this story. It has helped me so much on my own journey; the most useful guide and tool of my teenage years, and one of the most for my entire life.

As far as the film goes, I did not have high expectations walking into it because I knew that there was no way that the film could capture as much depth as Dan Millman's story. But, I was impressed, moved, and inspired. The film went passed the words of the story and brought a new 'heart' to the narrative. Scott Mechlowitz's performance was a knockout. Unfortunately those who see the film who have not yet read the book will have some trouble taking in what the film says and will most likely get the feeling that the filmmakers are just trying to ram a bunch of spiritual ideas down their throats. But I urge all who see the film on this basis to not be judgemental and to watch the film open minded, and more importantly, with an open heart.

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Hi,

Last year in 2006 just for questioning my employer (for a big company) why he is paying twce as much for my collegue than me he removed me from the job that day itself saying that broke the contract and robbed me off as he didnt pay me my 3 months pay. I mean that was my first job and i had lot of loans when I though my life was settled this happened. I felt like killing myself. Suddenly when one day i was gong through the barnes and nobles book store this title "THE WAY OF THE PEACEFUL WARRIOR" caught my eye. I never read any novel tilll now forget abt complatng but I completed it in 1 week. It gave me new hope. With that inspiration I completed my certfication and got a much better job and I am a happy man now. I think although this may not be sgnificant for most of the ppl this really is a lfe changng experence for me.

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I LIKED the movie and I liked the messages it conveyed.

I thought the movie was inspirational. I liked the message.

That things are not easy, that one must look inside oneself.

My husband (a literal warrior USMC Viet Nam) and I understood it very well. I don't think the movie is something that would be understood by the "I want it now, immediate gratification - attention deficit disorder - give me answers now - and I can't get off my cell phone to be bothered with you, what's in it for me" attitude of many movie goers. I'm not surprised that some walked out after 10 minutes. It takes time patience and time to learn lessons, and a slower, intelligent, movie like this does not appeal to the "bang up and crash 'em sex and violence" attention deficit of many movie goers.

All the worse for them. They will not learn a thing. The problem is for those of us who do learn have to put up with those who refuse to do so. But then again, Dan opined about those who need love more...

I had not heard of the movie and put it on Net flix. We watched it last night. I don't think the movie is supposed to give pat, quick answers. That wasn't the point, obviously. Anyone who wants quick answers would never understand this quiet and subtle film and the relationship with the characters.

It was about the journey and a young man's ego and his growing and learning.

I enjoyed the film very much and I am going to check out the library to see if I can borrow the book.

I never even heard about this film or Millman and hadn't heard it if was in theaters here in DC. And I have no idea why I put it on our list to rent at net flix. Isn't that funny? I now know why.




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I think Dan Millman's insights into spiritual transformation are real and valuable. I can't say I'm a "follower" of his "teaching", but I did read a couple of his books, and I borrowed some of his advice and made it a permanent addition to my "toolbox".

A lot of what Dan Millman says resonates with something either Sri Aurobindo or The Mother said - (approximative quote) "no matter what you do, always live at the peak of your consciousness". The moment you really get it, it's such a powerful thing, it's scary and awesome. But, I guess, there's a lot of work to do.

--
Florin Andrei
http://florin.myip.org/

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I love the book. I'm a jaded cynic and this book really grabbed. Every time I read it I get something more.

That said I'm really struggling to get to grips with walking the path. I know what it is, I can see it, but I struggle desperately go walk it. Sometimes trying it throws me off to the point of rage and despair.

Guess I've a lot more work to do. I envy anyone who can manage this path. Truly.

Ross

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Try not to adapt the teachings into your current reality, to follow the path you have to gain a whole new reality. In the book it says something about the path, "first rivers are rivers and mountains are mountains. Then rivers aren't rivers and mountains aren't mountains. Then rivers are rivers and mountains are mountains."

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Hey Ross -

Keep going. You wrote that you "envy anyone who can manage this path". The only one who can walk that path is you and guess what? You're already doing it! Rage and despair are a very clear indicator that you are doing something in your life which is contrary to your personal core values. Find out what that is (close your eyes and ask yourself) and do what you have to do.

May your quest be fruitful,
Chris

“Do or do not... there is no try.” - Yoda

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Thanks a million!

I just quit my job today (one month notice) and I'm going to start forging my own path. There's something about working where I do that really rubs against the grain of my core beliefs as you say!

I think I have to start making decisions and walking my own way and not listening to every nay sayer I meet, ultimately it's up to me... Easier said than done mind you, but one step at a time eh?

I'll keep checking in just to see how it goes, sometimes when you voice these things you can see the obvious much clearer!

Ross

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Funny you say Karate Kid for adults, Harry. I just rented this and that's how the videostore here was promoting it...lol.

And yeah, I'm sitting here after watching this movie and looking over my past and what's happened. I've had a few serious injuries and at this present day, I know that who I was as far as skills and knowledge can never be the same as it once was. But I like this message though about finding happiness in what you have in the present. A lot of people around me can notice a major change in me over the past few years dealing with the injuries. Anyway, I really enjoyed this movie and it's message. I'm gonna try and look into the books to get an even better knowledge of this to further delve into my mind and learn about me.

Hope everyone else is still doing well and finding their own journey in life.

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Been a practising occultist for almost 20 years now. Was recommended this book 6 months ago, bought it, read it, bought the rest if the series and am currently working my way through those too.

Since then, when someone has contacted me seeking a foothold in the occult, The Way of The Peaceful Warrior is my first recommendation.

What do I like most about this series of books?

1) The fact that it is freestyle, does not adhere to any existing occult system. It's the Jeet Kune Do of occultism.

2) It's the only text I know that makes the link between metaphysics, looking after your body, and mixed martial arts.

3) It has a true understanding of how the will works, and how it is sharpened. The chapter where they go out drinking perfectly illustrates this.

4) As with all good occult books, what is left UNSAID is as important as the information actually provided.

5) You know how Toy Story was a film that worked on multiple levels, so that people of all ages could enjoy it... well Dan Millmans books share that attribute. As someone already reasonably adept, I was able to pick up certain references, the use of hypnosis being one such example (and this was later confirmed in The Journey of Socrates).

6) Even with my background, these books made, and are STILL making, and enormous impact on my life.

If anyone would like to exchange emails then feel free to contact me.

LVX

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Maxdome -

It's interesting that you never purchased a Dan Millman book, who was the hero and true inspiration of this, but you openly admit this and openly admit lining the pockets of a convicted child molester. (?) Now, I have to question the logic of your statement and also your intent.

I would've typically followed your initial request at the beginning and voiced my positive thoughts about Millman and his books, but you made the point of distinguishing between the two. Keep passively taking part and one day you'll find yourself on the receiving end and probably cry out the loudest.

You should be taking your cues from Mario Savio and not Victor Salva.

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Learn to forgive, John Titor 2036, for if you can't forgive yourself and others, you will always find yourself unable to love and be loved.

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It's not for me to forgive Victor Salva for being a pederast, but the underage child he forced himself on.

Like I said before, as a fan of Dan Millman I have no problem discussing Millman or his books as they are positive and make a great statement. But this is not the place for it. Having his work co-opted like this is degrading to Millman and probably something that he was unaware of when he agreed to giving Salva the screen rights to his book. It's anti-thetical to everything he's about.

Millman's site and blog are a better place for thought/reading/discussion as is his IMDb page.

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Forgiveness is about letting go. It seems clear that you have a problem with Salva. Perhaps he has moved on from that life. What if you learned that Millman himself had forgiven Salva for his past and thus allowed him to work on the project? Does it really make a difference? Does it matter? Everyone (all of us) deserve a second chance (in fact, we've all been given so many chances already and will always continue to be given that no matter what we do).

A master would do no less toward anybody. The central teaching of each and every master who has ever walked this earth has been forgiveness. "Love your enemies."

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Like I said, it's not for me to forgive him, that's up to somebody else.

And for the record, Millman's was bothered by Salva, but could do nothing about the director's involvement in the project. He even states as much on his own website -- go read it.

Did Millman forgive him? I don't know why he would forgive him as it wasn't Millman's place to forgive Salva either, but did Millman accept Salva as he was? I doubt it, but he did work with him in the end and wrote pages for the shooting script on site.

Don't try to pawn off specious information here, as it can easily be rebutted.

As for second chances ... I'm not going to cosign Salva's behavior by supporting him in any way, and that's the overwhelming feeling with the majority of the studios at the moment. But I'm sure every few years we'll see him pop up on the radar.

Salva will probably never be able to shake his past.

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It's up to EVERYONE to forgive. It's clear that you have anger and issues with someone like Salva, so yes, it is for you to learn to forgive. So much anger and emotion in your responses clearly demonstrates this.

Walking the path of a peaceful warrior is all about forgiveness. How else do imagine that someone can live in the present moment? Virtually the entire book was about this. People who cannot forgive live in the past because they only hold on to the pain of it. Salva may not have directly hurt you, but he did hurt you. It's very easy to see just by observing your attitude and responses. A person who lets go (forgives) is able to put the past behind him and love someone NO MATTER WHAT THEY HAVE DONE.

If you can't forgive, you are not walking the path, and neither do any of us when we don't forgive. Why else do you figure that it was a central core teaching of Socrates and every other master? Perhaps it might help you to read the book again. It's always helpful to read something like this multiple times.

Be careful not to judge. You don't know the whole story. Judging people is based on fear.

I will let this discussion go now and simply repeat what I stated in my first response:

Learn to forgive, John Titor 2036.

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I think it's pretty obvious that you're just being inflammatory for the sake of being inflammatory. Nothing in my post has any detectable or even undetectable traces of anger. My post is merely just a series of factual statements. If you read them and they anger you, then clearly you are the one harboring the misplaced emotion and not I. I don't lose any sleep over someone like Salva.

Are you that upset that Victor Salva has been denied work and filmmaking opportunities because the studios have pretty much black-listed him? Why would this upset you? Are you an associate of Victor Salva or just a pederast yourself, who can't get their life back together after having been branded?

I never claimed to be walking the path, and I wont claim it either. I just spend my days working in this business and try to continue to make enough of a living to pay my mortgage here in Burbank.

I'm not judging Salva either ... for the simple fact that he was already judged by a magistrate and convicted of his crime. It has zero to do with me, other than the fact that the information was disseminated and it's public knowledge. So we do know the whole story as his profile is readily available online and it specifically states that he forced himself onto a minor, illustrating that it was not consensual. It's pretty clear.

Also, again ... it is not up to me or anyone else to forgive Salva. When people ask forgiveness they go to their higher power and seek it. The common man forgiving Salva may be a nice sentiment, but it's meaningless if he doesn't seek forgiveness from the person he scarred.

Millman does speak in his book about forgiveness as well and it's about forgiving himself for being reckless and coming to terms with his injury and moving forward. It's not about turning ethics into a gray area where deviant behavior is now somehow acceptable because others are blindly complicit.

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I read it long before i knew there was a movie. haven't seen it yet.
The more I live, the more I read things that jive with my own philosophies on life. I've been interested in the Samurai since about 13 and have been on my path of zen for as long as I can remember. This book, while simple, is very potent. I think it helps if you go further than this though. this one http://www.amazon.com/Zen-Martial-Arts-Joe-Hyams/dp/0553275593
by joe hyams is a really good book by one of bruce lee's first students in California. Its also important because because it's a westerner understanding an eastern philosophy and how he interoperates it. Another is "The book of five rings" by miyamoto mushahi(?) the most badass samurai that ever lived (he killed 600 something samurai in one on one combat between the ages of 13 and 32) but it's a little hard to get through cause he's japanese and translations are never quite right. plus he babbles a whole lot. and there's one called "discourse in the art of mountian demons" I can't remember who thats by, but it's some samurai who climbed mount fuji and stayed there for 6 months fasting, waiting for the mountain demons to come and impart their wisdom on him.

Crazy stuff, but like I said, to read someone putting into words what you've always thought is an empowering experience. It helps you keep faith in yourself.

-Serge

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I would call myself a Peaceful Warrior. I own a music school and everyday I teach and inspire countless students with music and with conversation. You'd be amazed at how fearful the youth of today are. I like being a role model for these kids and show them that not every adult is bitter and hates the world. Reading books like A New Earth and seeing movies like Peaceful Warrior always reassure me that I'm on the right path. Don't let the negativity drain you sir. Some people choose to be the light of the world, others, the darkness.

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