Asian directors should stay away from Science Fiction film. The website looks too weird. Can you even call that Science Fiction? It looks too much like Bladerunner. Granted it was an ok film in the 80s, but there is a reason nobody made a movie with the same look..it's outdated! by 20 YEARS!
Please, if you want to make science fiction, take a look at some of the REAL pioneers out there!
I agree that the movie doesn't look that original. It definitely looks like it borrows elements from many other films...
But... Why are you saying that only ASIAN directors should stay away from Science Fiction? Why single out this specific group of directors? I don't understand why their ethnic background makes any difference in their style of directing...
directors should make about movies they know. Asian directors should explore and open our minds about chinese and whatever nationality culture. We look at Asian directors for their explorations to new worlds they can offer, not sci-fi.
Look at movies like Hero, Crouching Tiger. Great films, but look at what those guys did to Akira, Ghost in the Shell .etc. Boring boring, maybe visually ok. Obviously, like the other message boards say, they basically took anime films and brought it to life. It sounds ridiculous.
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I agree with you,it seems directors should now be issued projects by race!
Asian culture is strong and vibrant,not just back in the days of old but more so now.Most art and style is influenced ,indeed check out any sci-fi film...and you will see.
The Director of this movie is a very cool guy and had no money by Hollywood standards to make it,so I wish him well..movie making is not easy.
The fact that the man who directed the film also wrote the film doesn't seem to spark any discussion about the fact that the director might have a strong interest in the Sci-Fi (and horror) genres, regardless of his ethnic background.
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"Asian directors should explore and open our minds about chinese and whatever nationality culture."
That's like saying black directors should open our minds about African culture and that white directors should open our minds about European culture. Just because the director's ethnicity is Asian, that doesn't mean he's an "Asian Asian" like Zhang Yimou and Ang Lee (directors of those mentioned films). Mr. Teo speaks fluent English and most likely isn't immensely interested in traditional Chinese or whatever culture from ages past.
Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Emerson
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Holy tolitos, we got a racist onboard here. I havent heard this much racist yapping since I ate a taco bell burrito that gave me instant diarrhea. Vamping out of films is something seen everyday, science fiction movies have always been a great stable ground in asian filmmaking, with many Live action and animation films that have garnered there own cult audiences. Mamorou oshii is a clean example. ghost in the shell, his panzer trilogy and Avalon.I dont know whether your just trying to piss of every known minority in the world deliberately or just plain special ed.
adventure is nothing but a romantic name for trouble.
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Sorry...But I did get instant diarheaa when I ate a taco bell burrito...Just to let you know *beep* you...
adventure is nothing but a romantic name for trouble.
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AcidTongue, that didn't sound like sarcasm at all. It sounded like a racist rant, for god's sake. If you want to sound sarcastic you have to at least drop some hints. Oops, sorry - I almost forgot...This IS THE INTERNET after all. We can hardly hear the tone of your voice to fanthom whether you're being sarcastic or not. Next time, try to leave a small post script of your true intentions ||-_- Honestly...
elcombo, the director grew up in cosmopolitan, multi-racial Singapore. While I'm sure he embraces his ethnic ancestral roots, I think he'd be rather less atuned to or interested in traditional Chinese stuff... And let's get real - the only reason why most mainstream successful Chinese directed films are on Chinese culture and kungfu is that narrow-minded people like you buy into such stereotypes.
You know what homme? You got a problem with Asian directors, deal with it. We Asians, or anyone else for that matter, don't need this frigging *beep* *beep* of yours.
Keep in mind that the money jingling in your pockets are not YOURS in the first place. I believe it came all the way from across the globe, where some HUMANS SLOG THEIR LIVES for a little something to be sold so that they can eat to survive.
Quote "I agree that the movie doesn't look that original. It definitely looks like it borrows elements from many other films... "
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That's how movies are created, these days it's almost impossible to create a completely original movie. There's just so many idea's out there that you have to have elements from other movies in it.
Apparently, you don't realize what an amazing movie Bladerunner is and how influential it has been on the designing of current anime scifi series and live action scifi movies and series. I guess you haven't seen Avalon.
shareThis is like saying because I'm white, I'm not allowed to give it go at directing a martial arts film. I feel that you saying the director can not do a Sci-Fi movie and should stick to what he knows has no value. Is it me or that last time I looked Asians lead in Technology?
Just the facts Jack!
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All right, methinks it's time for me to stand up for my fellow Singaporean.
Firstly, like most Singaporeans here, I highly doubt that Pearry Teo is an 'Asian Asian'. From what I remember, he actually left to study in Australia because he didn't like learning Chinese.
Secondly, what do you people have against Asians making a science-fiction film, or doing anything science-fiction in general? From young, I've aspired to be a science-fiction writer, but the reason why I'm going to have a hard time realising that dream is because of people like elcombo, who think that Asians should stick to what 'they know'. What makes you think that we know any less about science-fiction than you do? What do you have, first-hand experience?
I guess that's it, because, hey, everyone knows that space aliens never land in Asia. They ALWAYS lend in the United States of America, or some European country, because Asian plus science-fiction just doesn't cut it. Time travel, cloning, dinosaurs recreated - in America, that's fine, totally probable, happens all the time. But in Asia, nope. All you get are normal people leading normal lives. Whereas in America and Europe, most of the people there grew up in outer space with aliens as their pals, or have had strange occurences happening in their backyard ever since they were kids and saw Elvis being abducted by aliens.
I'm 15 now, and it maddens me to know that some Caucasians my age have actually succeeded in publishing science-fiction books of their own, while any time I try to pen anything remotely sci-fi, I get accused of not 'writing what I [supposedly] know', such as some realistic story that takes place in a distinctly Asian setting about the wonders of Asian culture or the horrible Westernisation of today's Singaporean youth.
Look, ditch the stereotypes, okay? Just because someone is Asian or any non-Caucasian race doesn't mean that he or she can't make a decent science-fiction film. If you keep on insisting that only some ethnic groups can make some kinds of movies, who knows what you might miss?
I, for one, will be supporting Pearry Teo all the way.
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To the idiots who think Acid Tounge was being racist: Get the hell off of the internet. If you can't tell THAT was sarcasm then you really have no place here.
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Sry Acid but given that there are some stupid people out there on the net who deliberatley try to make ridiculous comments just to incite the fury of others, its really hard to differentiate between sarcasm and attention-seeking cretins, especially when there's tone of voice. Try italics instead of bold or caps to convey sarcasm. Bold of caps-lock is used when people are trying enforce a point.
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it's just a movie. you don't like it? don't watch it. simple as that. why bitch and moan about how bad a director is when you can just simply watch another movie. and why vote asians out of hollywood? because you don't like their movies? i don't think so. should i vote you out of america because i think you and your opinions are idiotic? no, i don't think i will cause that's your right. but maybe you should take a good, hard look at the other movies coming out and you'll find worse. besides this movie isn't even completed, so who knows what it will be like. ah well, no use arguing this anymore.
share"The Gene Generation is an insult to science fiction in general. Science Fiction should show the evolution of our human species, The Gene Generation makes it look like we're going backwards! Visionary directors (learn from this Perry) look ahead not behind. Your choice for looking behind only shows the path your career will finally take."
Although science is breaking through important barriers and technology is advancing rapidly, the 'morality' of society, in general, is declining. Science Fiction doesn't always have to be so optimistic with visions of a better, cleaner and more sterile society...with the way things are going a dystopian future appears more realistic. Some of the better science fiction films deal with the idea of a world gone wrong, like Akira (which you seem to have found boring) and even Brazil by Terry Gilliam, although he's not asian, so you will jump on that.
Who says asians can't make science fiction movies anyway? Do you think anyone tells Clive Barker he can't write terrifying stories of the supernatural because he is gay and that he should stick to writing about gay rights or something?
Totally agree with that. If you haven't noticed already, cyber-punk has always had a huge Asian culture influence and of course, one of the key things in any cyber-punk novel or film is the dystopian society model.
shareYou know, I've known Pearry for a long time now. I've sat here reading all the nasty things that people have posted about him, and most of it is regarding his ethnic background. Most of you have based your oppinions on simple photos taken on set or screenshots taken from the movie, and created this whole stereotypical ideal of what the film is going to be like. You've taken a small piece, and formed an oppinion without ever really seeing the whole picture. Why don't you wait until the film comes out and then decide. If you hate it, fine. That's your choice. But until you know what you're talking about, don't say anything at all. I was the set designer on both of Pearry's first two films. I was there, and I saw how hard he worked. It wasn't just some dumb kid playing at being a director. He knew what he wanted and we made it happen for him. We all worked so hard on his vision. Now he's got his first true feature film, of which I helped on the orriginal scripts, and you people are sitting here trashing his dream because of a photo you saw, or where he comes from, or the fact that he's asian. Why not just judge the work for the work itself. I, for one, have been looking forward to seeing this film for the last three years or so. I was saddened that I didn't get to work on it, but I'm happy for my friend. I'm happy that his dream is coming true. So before you trash him anymore, try waiting until you can see the finished project for yourself. I'd be willing to bet, if I know Pearry and his work/mind at all, that this film will be nothing like what you expect.
shareforeveryoungnl - My advice to you is to open your eyes. Real wide. Because you have not seen the world enough but you are standing there talking some crap like you're some kind of expert on asian actors. What you witness is that ofasian-americans struggling to act in your bloody stupid language. But to stereotype every-single asian base on your experience with asian-americans is *beep* Do you want to know why asian-americans can't seem to act out emotions properly? Because their chances of receiving training in acting techniques much less their chances at breaking into a caucasian dominated industry are limited by bigotry and racist people like you. Reality is, you are scared. You are scared that much more talented individuals are going to steal your ricebowls. Lee Ang's recent success in making Brokeback Mountain dispells your ridiculous myth about asians. I pity you, "frog-in-the-well".
share"they should not direct any type of movie at all."
Apparently you do not know that asian directors has made great films. They are actually taking the movie industry by storm and as a result hollywood is utilizing them to do re-makes. Examples? My Sassy Girl, Grudge, Ring, Il Mare, JSA, Infernal AFfairs (American title: Departed). Asian animation? have you watched any of them? watch one and you wil realize most animation is deep with meaning and purpose, so watch it with maturity and don't assume its for children. Heck, we all still watch Family guy and Simpsons,southpark, adult swim, and in the good old days Bevis and Butthead. Its nothing different, actually the content is, but still animation is not bad and you argument is pathetic.
It seems that you don't watch enough movies and a racist prick.
I really should shove a cattle prod up your ass. You are the most sickeningly virulent person I have ever encountered. I may be all-white, but heritage means NOTHING in the real world; where we know the ONLY factor affecting intelligence besides inherited diseases is the environment you grow up in. Your environment must be pretty despicable... full of posters of women with implants, smelling of roll-itos and beer, and almost completely filled up by your pungent sin-against-humanity lump of organs that you call yourself.
shareDude, are you just plain old dumb and ignorant or *bleepy* mindless? You said you're an Asian YET how did you write the poor girl's name? You know, that girl whom Perry Teo is a fan of and approached her to star in his film. What's her name? Ling Bai?
YOU are a WORLD-CLASS DISGRACE to Asians! Why?! As an Asian, you should know that the surname comes BEFORE one's name! What! You an English guy now? LING Bai!
It's a no wonder you ain't living in Asia anymore. Koz no one cares to tolerate your *bleepy* BS.
"Dude, are you just plain old dumb and ignorant or *bleepy* mindless? You said you're an Asian YET how did you write the poor girl's name? You know, that girl whom Perry Teo is a fan of and approached her to star in his film. What's her name? Ling Bai?
YOU are a WORLD-CLASS DISGRACE to Asians! Why?! As an Asian, you should know that the surname comes BEFORE one's name! What! You an English guy now? LING Bai!
It's a no wonder you ain't living in Asia anymore. Koz no one cares to tolerate your *bleepy* BS. " - quote by Charbor
Agreed. Ling Bai? ROFL. You sound more English to me than Asian. A true blue asian would always know that the asian surname comes before the name. Caucasians can't grasp that concept that's why Zhang ZiYi had to change her name to Ziyi Zhang for the convenience of Hollywood.
"I'm allowed to say what I want. " Apparently you have never heard of responsibility.
"Go take a look at some of the Korean films out there and maybe you can learn from them"
Contradict your first statement how asians suck at sci-fi.
From the movies i have seen there hasnt been much sci fi omvies directed by asians in my opinion. However it is still wrong to stereotype on race. Your a disgrace.
"I don't think Perry even knows what science fiction is."
Ill go ask him, i am going to meet with him on the 31st of May.
"To all of Perry's supporters, you're probably friends or families, so your opinions don't count and you are biased. I on the other hand, do not know Perry, Parry or Ling Bai, and that does not mean I can judge them, but it means I can look at them with unbiased eyes and see what they are trying to do with our Asian culture."
What the hell are you talking about? you can't judge anyone cause you don't know anything about them. SInce I don't know you I can judge you. sounds fair? well I guess it does since thats supporting your argument.
"It looks too much like Bladerunner. Granted it was an ok film in the 80s" -Because of this statement, I cannot take anything you say regarding film seriously.
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Wasn't sure which thread to reply to so i scrolled to the bottom :).
This is mainly to reply to the first post and all the racist ones that proceeded it.
If it looks like The Gene Generation is `trying to rip off` any sci fi that came before it, it's because they all head towards the same truths, some sci fi's serve to warn us of possible futures, some sci-fi's serve to prepare us, some do both.
The Gene Generation is a piece of culture, to my mind it's the first movie to represent an emerging sub-culture im proud to be part of, with CombiChrist and VNV heading the musical score, the ideology integrates some very true philosophys into realism, gives the metaphor practical understanding `death is just an upgrade`, no doubt they'll also cover the deeper helix as well, it pretty much represents where Industrial Cyber Culture is coming from and im very happy, very proud that it's being made.
`Science meeting soul` is the undercurrent of this movie, or is at least the undercurrent of the sub-culture that fuels it, believes in it.
As for asians not producing sci fi, remarkeable, I'm from the uk, our spiritual heritage involves farmland, an awareness of mother earth breathing, an understanding of the cycles of it all, etc (those of us not stuck in the marketing 51st state mind trap), America to me is about practical application, big balls, bridling fire, the Japanese..
Japanese creatives see the future as if the future is past.
I have great respect for them, the chinese suffer a government akin to the church in the dark ages, repressive and exploitative yet they have such passion as people.
There's alot of energy for this kind of thing in the far east, and although Anime may not be your cup of tea (it isnt mine neither), it does represent a great medium of ideas and expression. They just let it out. And there's so much there.
Im looking forward to it, and respect everyone involved in it. Including everyone that believes in it, because it all counts, it's a family affair.
i have to aggree here....with VNV&Combichrist heading the soundtrack and combichrist already getting music awards left and right for get your body beat....this to me is an exciting continuance not a ripoff of our past cyberpunk/industrial world....lets celebrate. This is the knowledge we are this close to this being a reality....I think it will be great
share I couldn't read all the comments..but some things make me feel the need to write :
[ elcombo ], and specially [ AcidTongue1 ] ..
what is going on with you people...???
what is Asian ,American ...bla bla bla ..
please find your self and how you think....and give everyone a chance to prove his dreams ..
I can make you sure that the movie will be great ,it will be one of the best movies in the year, just because of the orignal idea of the movie...
And I wish that Peary was here and explain the Idea ...but it will happen soon or later ...because I can't speak in his place ... it is his movie ...
but I can and I want to protect his Idea and his movie..
Peary is a young director,and the most thing that I respect in his works that he wrote them too...not just direct them...
It will be better when you will see the movie...
and thanks for your words [ kingfisherofthesea ] ...
best wishes
This movie just looks awesome and Combichrist makes it even better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10dur7jhFQM
"It looks too much like Bladerunner"
And thats a bad thing because?
"Granted it was an ok film in the 80s"
It was MORE than okay in the 80's, and is MORE than okay now.
"...there is a reason nobody made a movie with the same look..it's outdated! by 20 YEARS!"
The look of Bladerunner was WAY ahead of its time, and STILL looks fresh today. It seems like you didn't think much of Bladerunner, so you don't think much of the look of The Gene Generation. Perhaps you prefere the idea of a future similar to Star Trek, Demolision Man or Aeon Flux. Clean, simple and uncluttered. Even the Matrix didn't have such a vision of the future. So how can you say the `Bladerunner look` is outdated by 20 years?!!?