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Bad acting... Asia please stop!


It's pretty unbelievable how such untalented actress has been called to cover vacant places when so many other volunteers would have surely acted and looked better in a movie.
I don't know how directors evaluate the casting for a crucial position in a film but after some few lucky moments in the last years Asia Argento has been sliding downhill trying to cling herself to more or less "elite" or "blockbuster-wanna-be" movies.
She has a terrible accent and acting in Italian - I find her almost unbearable in other languages, listening to her english with roman accent is a torture, french twisting and rolling sounds aren't well exposed and year after year I am starting to think that she is getting some acting offers just because of her family name, fallen also in disgrace after his father last "terrible quality" thriller movies..

I would strongly suggest some Acting school (never enough..) and Language masters...

PLF

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I don't know there's all that many young actresses that can act in three languages (Italian, French, and English). Many in America can't even act in one, and very, very few can act in more than one. As for European actresses I can't think of any of her age that really stand out. Actresses like Monica Belluci, Viginie Ledoyen, and Ludivine Sagnier have never really lived up to their initial promise. Paz Vega was pretty seriously miscast in her one big American movie "Spanglish". Cecile de France might have a career, but she doesn't yet compare to the previous generation of actresses like Isabel Adjani, Isabel Huppert, or Emmanuelle Beart.

As for "looking better", well, at least Asia takes her clothes off in movies. Most actresses her age, especially the American ones, not only aren't Meryl Streep acting-wise, but don't have the courage to do anything more risque than a "Maxim" centerfold. And as for her accent, I would rather listen to an intelligible foreign accent any day than suffer through an American Southern or "valley girl" accent in what is supposed to be a European period movie. I have nothing against the three actresses, but after suffering through Kirsten Dunst's accent in "Marie Antoinette", I have no intention of watching the likes of Scarlett Johansen and Natalie Portman in "The Other Boleyn Girl". It's all pretty relative really.

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Well if you look closely in one of the sex scenes, you can clearly see Asia's "Tramp Stamp" tattoo on her lower back. You would think the film's editors would try to cover up such a mistake, as nobody in the 19th century had tattoos. Ha! Ha!

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nor did they have fake titties

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lol

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nor did they have fake titties
Ah, you noticed that too, although it was difficult to miss. Rather off-putting in the sex scenes as far as I was concerned

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It's unlikely that anyone in the 19th century had THAT tattoo, but tattoos have been around since the Neolithic age you fool.

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So give us an example...

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How specific do you want? The oldest I know of is a mummy found on the border between Austria and Italy dating from 3300 BC, which was found to have 57 tattoos.

More recently, peoples in the Pacific (eg Samoa & New Zealand) have been tattooing themselves since well before they had any European contact.

The Chinese novel The Water Margin, compiled from folk tales in the 16th century, contains numerous references to tattooing. Julius Caesar described the tattoos worn by the Picts in his journals in 54 BC.

If you're Christian, you might be interested to know that Leviticus 19:28 prohibits tattoos.

There's lots more examples, but I can't be bothered and it's not really important anyway.

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owned.

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Agreed.

And Xtians didn't originally care, it was written into the bible somewhere about 700 years ago by one of England's Kings, after all, the Bible has been bastardized something fierce through ages.

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The Dead Sea Scrolls proved that we have the same Bible today as what was written more than two thousand years ago. If you are referring to the Mormon Bible or something along that line, yes, they added their own non Nicea approved books.

What reference do you have that 700 years ago a verse was added about tats? Seven hundred years ago we were working off the Latin Vulgate by Jerome and Greek and Hebrew versions. Who added the tats verse??? To what version????

I think you are the one bastardized or your imagination or hatred for the Bible is.

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Plenty of people in the 19th century had tattoos. Are you insane? People were drawing on themselves almost as far back as they were drawing on the walls of caves.

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yeah, she is quite unconvincing as a beauty and vixen who makes the pretty boy fall for her so quickly. i still didn't get how they fell for each other. plus, her boobs are so fake.

on the other hand, her acting was like in a soft porn, which is better than Jenna is a lot of ways.

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Far be it from me to say anything good about fake breasts, and I'm indifferent towards tattoos (Asia has a very nice tailbone, tatooed or not). But do either of these things really have anything to do with her acting? It's her make-up artist's fault that he/she couldn't cover her tattoos in this flick, and her silcone breasts aren't ridiculously oversized enough to really ruin anyone's suspension of disbelief.

It's interesting you compare her to "Jenna". Do you mean Jenna Malone, who like Asia is very talented acting-wise, but never takes any risks and ends up always playing the "girlfriend" (albeit, in somew pretty good movies), or do you mean Jenna Jameson, the hardcore porn star, who definitely has a perfect body but all the acting talent of a plastic *beep* doll?

Asia isn't a bad actress because she doesn't have a perfectly sexy body. She's sexy because she's a good actress and is willing to show off a body that's pretty damn impressive, fake breasts and anachronistic tatoos notwithstanding.

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...and her silcone breasts aren't ridiculously oversized enough to really ruin anyone's suspension of disbelief.
Are you kidding? Yuk

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I am French and find her very difficult to understand...really a turn off (same goes with Monica Bellucci).

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I don't have much of a sample of Asia Argento's acting -- just this film and Marie Antoinette (and I don't remember her in the latter) -- but I thought her performance in The Last Mistress was very good. The problem wasn't her acting, it was that the film's story was pretty lame.

The tramp stamp certainly looked wrong. Although tattoos date back before civilization, I doubt that they were commonplace among early 19th century French or Spanish ladies. The specific design was almost certainly anachronisitic.

The huge boobs may have been improbable in an age before implants, but they wouldn't be impossible. They certainly don't strain credibility as much as the tramp stamp.

I don't know enough French to defend or criticize her accent. But even if she did have a non-native French accent, her character was supposed to be Spanish, so she has an excuse for a non-native accent. She did a good job on her few lines of Spanish. I don't recall any other languages in the film, so if her English accent is bad it didn't affect the movie.

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Her breasts have always been huge, and actually appeared bigger and more perky over 10 years ago... she's always bared her breasts ever since she was a teenager, there is nothing plastic about her! I'm sure if she had implants and/or other plastic surgery, she'd look more rested/perkier/etc.!

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Mr. Schonberger, don't necessarily stop watching her now, but be forewarned: this is as good as it gets for Asia Argento's acting. She's usually a bit above average, sometimes a disaster. But I've never seen her as convincing and powerful and see was in :The Last Mistress ... tattoos or enhanced breast notwithstanding. I didn't feel those issues were a real problem with period credibility. If anything, it added to the films sense of danger in eroticism and overall daring. The best work I've seen from this director and this actress.

There's some mistake. I'm not a member of the Columbian Record Club....

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Oh well, reading your point Michael I realized I was quite heavy on my attack in the first instance.
I guess your point of view is just the right one and I should kill these flames born maybe just because one of her movies closed a very bad day :) stress ruins your life.

Asia, Do whatever you want, the world needs everyone of us(..oh well, thinking about politics I still have doubts about it). Sorry for my flaming.

PLF

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For me she's a person who you wouldn't think was attractive if you saw just pictures of her. But when she moves, when she's in person or on screen she is very appealing and sexy.

I'm not even a fan of tattoos so much (I think it's terrible to have that giant tattoo on her stomach) but something about her is very attractive.

I guess looks really aren't everything.

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I can't think of a better casting choice either.

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what a laugh. she was excellent for the part, and it has nothing to do with her beauty or her *beep* breasts, and everything to do with HOW well she played the character of this story. It's amazing how breillat manages to get so much out of her actors, because I'm not a fan of argento.

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So it's not enough to establish that there's been a history of tattoos for at least the last five thousand years over at least three continents; you need examples from a specific country and a specific century: France in the 19th century.

Picky, aren't we?

In Paris in 1881 Dr. Alexander Lacassagne published Les tatouages, etude anthropologique et medico-legale, which included tracings of two thousand tattoos.

In 1862's Les Miserable by Victor Hugo, Jean Valjean proves his identity by describing the tattoos of two men he had been imprisoned with.

So that's two thousand and two examples. I think we can put this one to rest.

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