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Question about a plot point with Hermangarde (spoiler)


Just saw this movie, and thought it was entertaining.

In the scene at the castle by the sea, why was Hermangarde bleeding when the doctor was there with her?

Did she miscarry? Did she get an abortion?

Maybe I blinked and missed a subtitle, but I am hoping someone can clarify.

Thanks.

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i understood it to be implied that she miscarried due to the strenuous horse ride of the previous night when she went to Asia's house to see if they were *beep* or not. if you recall, her husband forbids her to ride once he finds out she is pregnant earlier in the film.

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That makes sense. Thanks!

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I took it as she got an abortion. Right before this scene, she realizes that he is cheating on her, and I think she gets rid of it because she probably doesnt want to be suffering by carrying a cad's child, and doesnt want to bring it into a marriage like that. Also, the doctor has instruments and a huge bowl of water and towels like he was prepared...when a woman spontaneous miscarries, she doesnt #1 need instruments, and #2 isnt prepared for it. Thats just my interpretation. Also, the look on her face was quiet indignantion, not shock.

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I definitely think she had an abortion. I have miscarried and you don't need a procedure done. I had a D&C, but that was mostly because a spontaneoud miscarriage for me was the most unpleasent period ever so I wanted it to be over with as soon as possible. And pregnant women are not delicate flowers. Riding a horse is not going to cause you to miscarry unless you fall off of it or something along those lines. With my second pregnancy I jogged until I was twenty six weeks along and only stopped because the baby would lay on my bladder when I ran and my joints were so loose it just began to feel more weird and uncomfortable than relaxing. I ended up giving birth to a perfectly healthy nine pounder. There is very little that you have to stop doing once you get pregnant.

And really what woman would want to have his kid after seeing thatt.

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Very true!! Its amazing what you can do pregnant. My first baby I walked 6 miles a day and hiked up until the last week and gave birth to a nine pound baby. Now on my second baby I couldn't do what I did with my first baby, but I was not some delicate creature. He was three weeks early and at eight pounds.

He makes love like the way he works on the streets,as gentle as a jackhammer.

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I'm betting it was a miscarriage. Please remember that this story was set in the early 1800s. Women did not have access to the sort of medical advancements and nutrition that a woman in the 21st century enjoys. Upper-class women like Hermangarde literally wore up to 20lbs (not exaggerating here) of clothing including corsets. Heavy exercise for a woman of her class was probably ringing for tea.

While running and hiking would pose no problems for today's woman, a woman in the 19th century is a whole 'nother story. Also, horsebacking riding was only one of two activities my doc advised me against while I was pregnant. Water-skiing was the other and my daughter was born in June 2009.

Lastly, abortion was very risky back in those days and a woman had a bigger chance of dying from one then giving birth.

As angry as Hermangarde was, I think it makes more sense to assume she miscarried

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I've watched it 4 times and I'm pretty sure she ordered an abortion. The tools in the bowl and the fact that she is not showing much emotion make me think that. Also, the doctor doesn't really clean her up very well, so maybe he in unapproving. A child was the only thing that Ryno seemed to love, so she killed it.
I don't agree that abortions were not accessible in 1800's France.
If Hermongarde had a miscarriage she would be emotional about it, I think.
I guess we should read the novel. :-)

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Whatever it was, abortion or miscarriage, it was really too bad. I think a child would have brought them closer together.

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Oh yeah, that always works.

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