Haven't watched the woke incarnation of who at all nor do I want to but I read something about the timeless child.Did they really rewrite it so that not only was the Doctor never from gallifrey but he was also a black woman to begin with.This sounds less like Doctor who writing and more like SJW fanfiction.
I'm so glad I stopped watching after Capaldi left.Wokeness has turned this show into a joke of its former self.
Pretty much.
Though, the Ruth character (the earlier female version you mentioned) wasn't meant to be The Doctor's original self. Just a pre-Hartnell version that we previously didn't know about. We found out that there had been incarnations previous to her.
But they did retcon it, so that The Doctor wasn't a Time Lord, wasn't from Galifrey and had an infinite amount of regenerations. Apparently there had been many, many incarnations prior to William Hartnell's version, which The Doctor had forgotten about. They kind of got round it, by saying that William Hartnell was the first one to call himself The Doctor. But there had been many versions of him.
I personally didn't like it.
LOL i know it was dreadful. they ruined the Doctors history LOL (again)
shareI don't get the BBC.Are they so drunk on the SJW agenda koolaid that their blind to the train wreck happening right in front of their faces.
shareYou're talking about modern BBC. That company literally said (officially) white males should NOT apply for trainees a couple of years ago, since they wouldn't be accepted.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3621658/BBC-turn-trainees-WHITE-Job-applicants-stunned-told-corporation-wants-people-ethnic-minority-backgrounds.html
(And probably this is still their official policy, they just don't say it out loud anymore).
Well that adds another silly dimension to the whole thing. Why would any Doctor after William Hartnell want to call himself "The Doctor?" Especially if we're supposed to buy into the fact that he's a totally different person every time. By that logic, one would think that the Patrick troughton character would say "No, he was The Doctor, I am The Librarian," or something. By this point we would be up to The Plummer or The Beekeeper or something.
shareWell at some point the will call them self "The Curator" :)
shareHe was supposed to have had his memories stripped by The Time Lords of anything pre-Hartnell. So, The Doctor was operating under the false impression that Hartnell was the first.
shareI dislike what they did but I'll say one thing I warmed to the Ruth doctor instantly when she became the doctor. She felt like a classic doctor with authority and presence. Basically everything I felt was missing with 13 although they started adding hints of it in series 12.
I can accept doctors before the first doctor. I'm not keen on the idea but I can live with it. My main issue is the doctor becomes the person who gave the gallifreyans regeneration and so founded the timelords in a sense, being the first. It turns the doctor into a godlike character and also makes them special from the start. The whole point of the doctor was always someone who wasn't born into power and wasn't the smartest but did what was right.
I get why some fans might have issue with a retcon involving "The Doctor's" history but I'm not getting the "SJW"/"Woke" angle that the OP & a couple of the usual SWS suspects are whining about. Surely something as petty as one of the previous incarnations (out of many)apparently being portrayed as a black woman can't be the basis.
shareI think a lot of people dislike the fact that this means the first doctor (or what they went as originally) was a female and black as they seem to feel like they are changing history to appease the feminists. The regenerations we saw seemed to be a variety of races to which will have got these people annoyed.
I would admittingly have preferred the first doctor to be properly the first and Ruth to either be a future doctor or one between 2 and 3 which would fit with the fan theory of season 6B.
I do think having all these doctors kind of cheapens the ones we know. They are just another in a long line now. I also wonder if making more past female doctors takes something away from 13 and Jodie. She isn't the first now, something to be celebrated but just another although I get why they probably did it, to tell those not keen this is concrete and there's no going back.
But like I said I could accept all that but the whole doctor being technically the first time Lord doesn't sit right with me. I feel like at some point down the line this will be either dropped or simply forgotten or it will turn out the master simply manipulated the matrix which has done previously in trial of a timelord and lied
wokeness aside,
I'm no expert on Who, but i believe there was a finite number of regenerations specified?
(presumably in some throwaway comment , that whovians have made lore)
So once that number is reached some "new story" / retcon has to be done to explain that or the series must be put to bed?
The series has periodically muddied those waters. Brain Of Morbius hinted at several pre Hartnell regenerations of different races and species.
The only thing that's woke is the butt hurt that some nerds have about anything that undermines their authority on what the show is/isn't or makes it good/bad.
I much preferred the brain of morbius doctors never explained. I feel not knowing and the mystery that it could be past doctors far better than simply revealing it.