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About Will O'Conner, among other things

posted 19 years ago by beatlesroadie4
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Now, about Will O'Conner. I have to say, I liked him the most out fo the stuedents portrayed, I mean this kid is so sad Jesus Christ. Like all the kids had some great attributes abotu them and I knwo this isn't liek a character thing because THESE ARE REAL PEOPLE, but in my personal opinion I think someone neds to find that Will kid and hug him or soemthign I am totally serious he needs love or something. his walls were white gray, he was just a broken man, and gave up on life or somethign. SOMEONE LOVE HIM, JEEZE.

I am not saying everyone was terrible for teasing him because I don't think Paul did it in a vicious hateful way ti was a joking way, but stil it seems Will is such a broken soul jeeze, I loved the movie I really loved it and (this is off my original topic BUT:) this si nothgin like School of Rock because it si THE REAL THING, I respect this mroe than I coudl ever respect the movie School of Rock these kids are amazing musicians, just amazing, when I hear dthem play Zappa I was BLOWN away, it really changed my perspective on young artists because I like that Paul said "It isn't abotu the novelty of kids playing it is makign the kids sound good" or somethign, that is very true and even if his methods seem "harsh" THEY SEEM TO WORK, those kids are amazing and their teacher is amazing. Awesome. Sorry got off track but that is all for now.

[–] derekhon12 19 years ago

Will reminds me of my brother.

[–] MrCool_is_always_right 18 years ago

I wish Will came on here. He's the most interesting part of that movie.

[–] beatlesroadie4 18 years ago

I definately agree! He is the best part to me, I don't know why but I love him, i kept thinking abotu how I wanted to meet him and give him a hug and a kiss or something, he was so sad. But anyway, I definately agree

[–] MShowquest 18 years ago

Not to be too nitpicky, but GOOD LORD can you even learn how to spell the word "definitely"? Really, my god, it's not an esoteric term -- it's a COMMON WORD. For god's sake, I make typos too, but you come off like a f----ing idiot when you misspell simple words. OPEN A BOOK ONCE IN A WHILE AND LEARN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

[–] Relayer2112 18 years ago

riiiiight...

nit-picky has a hyphen

God should be capiltalized

Should be "I make typos, too" not "I make typos too,"

I could go on. But I won't.

Not fun, is it?

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[–] Ripley741 18 years ago

Actually, you're all morons.

f----ing

There are obviously too many dashes in that word for it to be what I think Showqueef - uh, quest, Showquest (sorry) - was implying.

You're all so brilliant you can spell check others at will, but yet you fail to COUNT??

Pathetic, really.

[–] ickarus_fell 16 years ago

K relayer2112 there is a difference between grammer and knowing how to *beep* spell, your a *beep*

Don't soar so high, your wings will melt.

[–] sklaus 18 years ago

Why do you think they focused on him so much? I thought he was the downfall of the documentary. I thought he had an interesting perspective on what was going on in the school because he spent so much time there but seriously half of the interviews were with him. What do you think?

[–] JayCeezy 18 years ago

*Why do you think they focused on him so much? I thought he was the downfall of the documentary. I thought he had an interesting perspective on what was going on in the school because he spent so much time there but seriously half of the interviews were with him. What do you think? *

I listened to the filmmaker's commentary track, and they made a point of saying that Will had Paul's number and vice-versa. They all three (editor, director, writer) agreed that they wish they knew Will better, and that he seemed to see through Paul Green's manipulation better than anyone, better than Paul himself.

Let's all face it; music, and all of the arts, are extra. As Paul Green says up front, they are what gives man humanity. But they come after reading, math, history, and all the other things that you will need to know to get through life. Chances are very slim that any of these kids will make a living doing music; it is a nice activity that keeps them all busy working hard and improving themselves. Much better than watching TV after school, or doing drugs and getting into trouble. Will got what he could out of it, and moved on. Life will go on for everyone.

[–] Mudsharkbytes 13 years ago

But they come after reading, math, history, and all the other things that you will need to know to get through life.

Don't know about that. I think you DO need music to get through life and without it you will have a pretty miserable existence.

Music making, while not unique to humans, is ingrained in our very being. Excepting deaf people, there is virtually nobody that doesn't like music, though we all differ on what kind of music we like. Additionally, there are precious few human activities that we do not feel compelled to embellish with music.

Actually, regarding the deaf, I was playing the piano one day in the auditorium of one of my schools that also happened to have classes for deaf children, and their teacher brought them all in and they placed their hands on the piano and 'felt' the music. To give them more to feel, I started banging out some stride piano stuff, which they really seemed to enjoy. Most of 'em really appreciated the experience, so even the deaf and hard of hearing have the love of 'vibrations' in their being.

Sure, math, history, etc… are important, but their applications in daily life are not nearly as omnipresent in the human experience as music is. Unless you're a hermit, you're exposed to music daily - sometimes continuously.

Being a musician is obviously not the vocation for most, just ask Will, but I believe music has a much greater impact on our lives than people realize.

You have a wooden leg - you must be a table.

[–] voteforalex 18 years ago

He may have been depressed and an outcast, but I agree that he probably wouldn't talk about it so openly and publicly. I know from personal experience that depression is incredibly complicated, and it would take a lot for a person to feel comfortable exposing themselves like that to millions of people.

[–] mmr820 18 years ago

Not to be a Debbie Downer or anything, but I thought Will was by far the worst part of the film. I totally understand this kid has severe problems that he needs to work through, and maybe Rock School wasn't the best place for him; but Jesus Christ, this kid needs to get over his self depreciating, masochistic, emo bullsh*t. Maybe it was just the way he presented himself in such a 'holier than thou' regard, or maybe it was the fact that his entire persona seemed to be one exaggerated façade. Either way, he annoyed the hell outta me.

I will admit, he was entertaining though. I honestly laughed out loud at the part where the filmmaker asked where he would be when he is 30, and he said he probably won't be alive. I didnt think it was funny that he would want to kill himself, but I did find it completely ridiculous how he spout off on these type of statements for no other reason than to look more important to other people. Wake up Will, you're not alone: there are millions of other little emo a$$holes all over the country; get a new schtick.

"Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die today." -- James Byron Dean

[–] canada_2005 18 years ago

I think the thing about Will is that with the right approach he has it in him to become a sweet musician, but that Paul's approach and Paul's expectations were wrong. Will Looked like he possibly has other intersts and expectations than the what syllabus and style Paul's school put forward.
Given the right environment, I believe Will could be a sweet player, but in purely musical terms, Paul's school was wrong for him. Outside of that, who knows, Will and Paul appeared to have some sort of appreciation for each other, albeit a kind of torturous one...

[–] portlandian_odd 18 years ago

bass players are always the last to get it.

leave him alone, he chose a simple instrument he wasn't willing to learn...

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