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Why was Joe Soares fired from Team Canada?


I looked on this board and didn't see this subject brought up anywhere and I was just curious. The documentary made it sound like he took a lower tier team and made them a medal winner. The only reason I could see him getting fired is maybe his personality clashed with his bosses?

If anyone knows please share, and also, any chance of him being coach of USA or has he burned too many bridges?

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Joe actually answers this question ( and many others ) in the DVD extras. He feels as if Team Canada got all the knowledge they needed frm him, and now they would like to choose a Canadian. Joe accepted the head coaching positon with Great Britan.

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Anybody consider the fact that Joe took the Canada job because he needed a job? How many good jobs are there in the world of quad rugby? Guy's got a family. Basketball players take jobs as coaches anywhere and everywhere and no one says anything. This is a silly dialogue really if you think about it.

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I noticed several Canadian players that clearly did not look Canadian.

I agree that the guy was probably ready to do whatever he could to coach above being patriotic. Even so, you must admit that he was very set on defeating the USA.

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Errrr, what exactly does a Canadian "look" like, and how can you tell that someone doesn't "look" like one?

Signed: a puzzled Canadian

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We've all seen South Park, buddy.

(Partially Canadian.)

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It's also worth remembering that Joe was born in Portugal (his sisters give this away somewhat).

So he's not even technically american anyway.

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I noticed several Canadian players that clearly did not look Canadian.

Every Canadian player in the movie was Canadian.

In almost all sports, there are rules for international competition that govern player eligibility for national teams; most of these rules require that the player be a citizen of the country they represent.

(That's only players, though; there are not usually rules for coaches of other team staff.)

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I wonder if I look Canadian? What are the tell-tale signs of looking Canadian?

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Looking Canadian is looking like Wheels from Degrassi Junior High.

Mullet, birth control glasses, painted on jeans, Maple Leafs sweater, etc.

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I'm anglo-Irish-Canadian and I bet like I look like a canuck. Unless I'm in Boston, of course. Then I'm just another mick. Heh.

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I think it's pretty safe to say that he wanted to beat USA because they had been number one for 10 or 11 years straight. I'm sure that had more to do with it than anything. Ask anyone who plays sports, the biggest rush is to beat the best team. Isn't that the whole point? To get to the top?

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I had the opportunity to meet Mr. Soares and some of the other "Murderballers" over the past week. I work at the host hotel for the Demolition Derby @ the Lakeshore Foundation. My impression was that he is just a passionate guy. He was honored to be coaching the GB team and said that they were coming along at an even quicker pace than the Canadian team did.

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Seems like he values being a coach more than being patriotic about America. Maybe since he's a first generation immigrant, he doesn't feel an emotional attachment to the United States?

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So when you are cheering your team, what are you cheering on? Their uniforms? Yay! Our clothes! Booo! Their clothes.

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He's not the first foreign coach. Many teams will hire a foreign coach to perfect their sport. You find loads of French and German soccer coaches coaching national teams, for instance. Overall it's good for the sport.

The issue was that he was a bit too passionate about beating the USA and it was obvious he decided to coach Canada to get a personal revenge.

That's not his coaching a foreign team, but his attitude.

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Yeah, that's a good point. After all, if coaches never crossed international country lines, the United States would never win in sports like gymnastics or hockey. The whole thing with Mr. Soares had such a disloyalty vibe.

At any rate, it seems like Karma has caught up to him, so no worries from me.

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The truth is most people wouldn't actually feel any pains in their chest by playing for or coaching another country. Not unless you fought in a war or have first-hand experience with someone close dying for your country. I'm not saying most people would do what Joe Soares did, but they COULD and not be really bothered.

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that was the most ignorent thing i've ever heard!.. CANADA is multicultural we have people here from around the world leaving together in one proud nation...

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Yea I agree that was an ignorent comment.

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Yeah, that's a good point. After all, if coaches never crossed international country lines, the United States would never win in sports like gymnastics or hockey. The whole thing with Mr. Soares had such a disloyalty vibe.

At any rate, it seems like Karma has caught up to him, so no worries from me.

Um, he never said or did anything bad to USA. If he was coaching USA, he would still want to win with fire. It's not a real war; it's a sport.

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