Does Lt/Captain Sommers die?


In the fire, when the ship burns, does the good lieutenant, now-captain, perish? He is not seen again, i'm jus wondering from people who ay have read Goldings's novels.
Anyone able to answer?

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Sadly, Captain Summers does indeed perish (the ship explodes, his body is never found and a memorial service is held for him). I did think the film left it a little unclear, maybe because they were trying to squash a whole BBC drama series' worth of events into just 3 mini-films.

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Such a shame. Oh, i shall have to buy mr goldings' books now. goody

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*weeps* I love Summers...he was so sweet, and kinda attractive too heh heh

Laura xxx

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'You parafin headed peabrain!' 'You overgrown pocket watch!'

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Yr he does die because in the time a Captain always went down with his ship and unfortunatly Summers had just become captain. Kind of unlucky really.

Emily
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ohh i see....That's why I was wondering why he didn't jump off instead!

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Also, it is highly likely that he could not swim! As astonishing as it might seem, many sailors of the period could not.

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I was rather wondering if Lt.Benet had turned the commission down because he knew something like that would happen.

Tom516

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So was I actually

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he probably knew, deep down, that he hadn't really fixed the ship and something was going to go wrong with it in the end, so he ran like a rat (pun intended: rats leave the ship when it's sinking)

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Naw, I think Lt. Benet was absolutely confident in his own ingenuity. His agile and busy mind had moved on to other things. He was supremely confident that he had fixed the ship and gave the matter little further thought IMO.

The reason Benet didn't accept command of the ship was that he felt himself destined for bigger and better things, much better than commanding a hulk moored in a harbor far FAR from England.

For Summers, who was not a "gentleman" and had risen through the ranks, there were few prospects of command at war's end. What the book detailed a little more than the drama series is how thrilled Sommers was to be made post and command a ship (any ship), even a decrepit old barge like the Pandora. He loved the old hulk and couldn't bear to abandon her. He was also conscientious to a fault perhaps.

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The question of whether the fire/heat had been completely quenched following the setting of the mast lingers in the background until the fire erupts in port (guess that answers the question)

If a captain did NOT go down with his ship he would be most likely brought up in front of an admiralty board of enquiry. Sometimes it just didn't pay to save your own life!

Most sailors - men of the sea - expressly avoided learning how to swim, hoping that if they were washed overboard at any point drowning quickly was preferable to the prolonged suffering of swimming while waiting and hoping for rescue.

And, finally, I think that Cpt Sommers more than likely hoped and wished that he could save his precious ship.

I've just wrapped up another round of family research which made me want to re-watch this fabulous film. My GG-Grandfather began his sea life as a sailor and mate on ships running from England to Australia. Worked his way up the ranks, married a young Irish immigrant (most likely a passenger), settled in Fremantle, helped build up the ports and owned many ships. Most of the info I've been able to gather come from legal documents addressing voyages, wrecks,and damages to his ships - much like the one here at "To the Ends of the Earth" Thank God for litigation, eh?

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Yes, he, like a good Bristish captain, went down with the ship. I was so sad. He was such an awesome character, but the second that Talbot was told the Summers was promoted to captain I knew that he would die on the ship.

All I have to say is this: Forget Benet for being such arrogant, self absorbed slime and forget Anderson for listening to him rather than Summers.

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It is a mistaken notion that the captain ALWAYS went down with the ship. After a captain lost a ship, he had to undergo a grueling courtmartial process and had to prove that his actions were those of a proper captain or he has absolutely no chance of getting another ship. Charles Summers could have easily proved that, but I think being promoted was such a cap on his career. He hardly dared to think that he would be promoted to captain. The books do go more in depth with his character. Besides his suicide, another part I didn't like was that while on the burning ship, his uniform should have had one gold epaulette on his left shoulder, and it didn't. The book explained how Charles reverently took this bent and battered epaulette out of his storage trunk saying he only dreamed of being able to wear it.

I agree with Rackon, that Benet had put this ship in the past and his mind gone on to bigger and better things.

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I found this sequence so confusing while watching the miniseries. I actually wondered if Summers had gone crazy from the stress of his conflict with Benet and set fire to the ship in order to prove himself right; then allowing himself to burn to death and going down with the ship in his insanity. And this is coming from someone who was desperately fond of the Summers character, and considered him to be the anchor of moral sensibility among the cast. Thank you for clearing that up. I didn't enjoy such a fallen-from-grace ending for a beloved character. Although the pointlessly-noble-martyr/victim-of-societal-caste-structure end doesn't make me much happier to be honest. :( How depressing... I had been really fond of Talbot's manservant as well, and that demise was equally tragic and strange for me...
Overall, there was something so deranged and confusing in tone to the presentation of TTEOTE, but I suppose that was a great part of what made it so interesting. It was like we were experiencing Talbot's own skewed perspectives and befuddlement, and because of that it took a lot of legwork and deciphering on the viewer's part to comprehend what was really going on. I fear I'm not fully there yet myself, and so I often associate my memory of it with sitting through a three-part fever dream. It's definitely one of the strangest viewing experiences I've ever had.

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I've just finished the books, and I totally want to kick Benét for this. Also, Deverel. It was all their fault! Poor Summers needs a hug. Well at least he went down with his ship... but he deserved better. I somehow knew he would die; when I love a character, he always dies...


And that brainless Barbie-doll Benét lives happily ever after with Anderson. (Seriously, Anderson... you were such a badass tough-guy atheist captain, then this blondie comes and you turn into a lovesick puppy.) I don't think Rogers was the only sodomite aboard. (By the way, what happens with Rogers? In the book he just exits after bringing back the letters and he's not mentioned again.)

Now the question. Where to download the whole series? I could only find two parts, and didn't begin it...




Starry Vere, God bless you!

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You can get the region 1 (US) dvd super cheap on Amazon. There's a used one selling for under $3.

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I need Region 2.


Starry Vere, God bless you!

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Watched finally... really, Benét is worse than Lockhart, and that's saying something.

Poor Summers! This was really unjust.




Starry Vere, God bless you!

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I wondered if he had set the fire deliberately too, because he was so sure it would happen.

"No one ever thinks cannibalism will happen, until it does."

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In future you might consider a header that isn't a giant plot spoiler followed by an opening question that's also a giant plot spoiler. For example, your header could read "Question about Sommers. Spoiler" instead of potentially ruining the film for people yet to see it (luckily I have).

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