how much gay interest?
is there only one gay character?
and how center is he?
thanks. :)
no comment?
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no body watched the show? ^^"
MovieChat Forums > To the Ends of the Earth (2005) Discussion > how much gay interest?
guess i'm alone on this one......
Gabriel, I guess there is one character who is gay. (If you consider that any man who performs sexual acts with another man is gay, then there are more.) His part of the story is not pretty, or large. If I were compiling a list of movies with "gay interest" (whatever that means), this would not be on it. Hope this helps.
shareSpeaking as the only gay in the village, I would say that if you only confine yourself to works with "gay interest" you'll end up be a rather narrow little gay indeed ... however, to answer your question, same sex activity plays an important part in the first episode of the series, but not in any way that is likely to inspire lustful thoughts or romantic daydreams ... short, nasty, brutish and unseen, with ghastly consequences, is how I'd sum it up.
Sorry for such a late reply, for some unknown reason this has only just screened in Australia.
But you ARE Blanche ... and I AM.
Given what happened to the Parson there was a lot of gay interest in the ship!
Its that man again!!
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The synopsis that mentions a gay-themed storyline seems to ignore the question of consent. Put it that way.
shareHonestly, the story line covering the death of the clergyman following a drunken sexual experience with the crew is less "gay centric" than it is an observation about humanity, communities, class structure, and the morals of society in general.
When the enquiry discovers that there was sexual activity along with drunkeness contributing to the clergyman's death AND there were ship's OFFICERS involved, not just Hands and Mates, it is shutdown immediately. An adjusted report finding is submitted. Everybody involved - which in this case is anybody traveling in the confinement of this ship - examines their own part in this tragedy. In reality it could also be said that upper class indifference contributed as much to this young man's despair and demise as drink, sodomy, and shame.
"Buggery" - Homosexual relations - in 19th C society was a capital offence, yet its common practice in naval ships of the line and maritime trade in general was common knowledge but not spoken of. It was considered a necessary evil and most often ignored, as needs be, in the close extended confines of naval travel.
Golding wrote each event/encounter in this story with many layers, coloured by many human and periodic opinions and practices. To consider this event, or the known homosexual practices of the British Navy of the time, as simply "gay interest" is to both miss the point of the story AND show disrespect for the struggles of gay persons to simply be considered human beings rather than criminals by society.
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The fact that sodomy was a capital offence despite being commonly practiced during months- and sometimes years-long sea voyages was precisely why it was not spoken of and quietly tolerated. Just as magistrates would regularly lower the value of a stolen item rather than send a desperately poor thief to the gallows and his family to the workhouse. Despite the spectacle of public hangings, the people of the 18th and 19th centuries did not like seeing their friends executed for petty crimes - change was in the air and transportation was preferable.
Ships officers were practical men and were aware that men who had been snatched by the press gang and torn away from their wives and families needed some form of outlet if mutiny was to be avoided, and possibly saw the value of the close relationships of men looking after their 'mates'. We all know what happened on the Bounty when Captain Bligh enforced rigid discipline. Robert Hughes' book 'A Fatal Shore' about the early colonization of Australia deals with the draconian sentences for petty crimes having the reverse effect. No one wanted to sentence a breadwinner to death for stealing a loaf of bread. Transportation was seen as a preferable way of getting rid of them.
I did, and it kinda left me hanging.
I found myself hoping that Lieutenant Deverel, Lieutenant Summers, and/or Talbot would get together. Different combinations, or all three: I didn't care. Didn't happen though, and I'm disappointed.
There seemed to be a lot of gay subtext going on between these three, but no consummation. Only the stereotypical [forget the word, but something thats a tool of writers, used like a gimmick in story-telling] tool of an effeminate man-of-the-cloth crossing the boundary, realizing the euphoria of intercourse, and then being overcome by regret and self-loathing afterwards.
/s/ Signature? Nah, I dont want to sign anything.