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Why do people hate this movie?????


i loved this and i would give it even more than 7.5.how come such movie bare 6.1 rating??? anybody who loves this?

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Because it is rubbish.

Best bits:

Cage drinking those martini things while waiitng for Jessica Biel.
Julianne Moore looking unbelievably bored in every scene she is in.
The first fifteen or so minutes (neglecting the car chase) that were actually quite good.
The crazy ending where nothing actually happened and they drive off somewhere.

Yippee-ki-yay, mother - *sound of lift beeping*

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you sound like someone who can't experience good movie without substance abuse. how about grabbing that book, on which the movie was based (if your attention span allows you to read it fully in your lifetime), and actually having the first reflection about it other than martinis? or is it a matter of having to complete the puberty phase and reaching adult age to react better values in it that "car chase"? part of having even self-education at movies is being able to put together events from an intellectual work into something more complete, and move valuable. hopefully that skill is not lost on you. you lack the capability, your best bits in any movie will be the martini ones.

watch this one more than once if your mind sometimes becomes open, you may notice much more.

and Julienne Moore is a federal agent. did you really expect a person at her profession to be a moment-stealing, creative type?

the worst part of this movie is not even Nicholas Cage. it is viewers like you who notice irrelevant things and miss the fundamentals behind the action. sorry, Mr. McGenerro.

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I did read the "book", actually a novella, along with every other short work and about 16 SF novels ones of Philip K. Dick, including all the "major" works. This encompasses everything as yet used in a movie.

That is why I hate this movie. Better not to look to closely at original here.

It uses a microscopic portion of the Dick work (only the seeing forward part), uses it for free and without any artistic control since the short works from the 50's e.g. Second Variety (Screamers), Adjustment Team (Adjustment Bureau), and The Golden Man (Next) are in public domain, and uses the Dick name for all it's worth to promote it. (Which gratefully in this case did not save it from being a major bomb at the box office.) There is so little of the original story and the original story was so much more interesting. It is not really such a terrible movie, it is the exploitation without an even remotely faithful rendering that I object to. It was stolen to make a Cage vehicle, period.

I also did not like Adjustment Bureau, another public domain name steal, for reasons other than poor adaptation, but did not bother me as much because it really wasn't such a great story in the first place, suitable for a half hour TV show perhaps but not a movie, but rather something gotten over the fence to put more horse meat on the table in the 50's between better efforts.

CB

Good Times, Noodle Salad

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I just watched this movie tonight for the first time and was surprised by how much I liked it. I read positive and negative reviews on IMDB so I was a bit reticent to buy the DVD even though it was only $5. What finally convinced me to buy it was that it was loosely based on a Philip K. Dick story. I think some people are put off by his stories because they are convoluted. I've seen several movies (Blade Runner, Total Recall, Impostor, Minority Report, A Scanner Darkly, and Next) made from his stories.

Monsters from the Id

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> I think some people are put off by his stories because they are convoluted.

I've never heard of a better euphemism for calling - deservedly - some human being as being intellectually incapable of grasping stories in one sitting. It would be enough to allow themselves to watch 2nd, and 3rd time, and catch all the details but many of them just refuse to be exposed to anything they cannot understand immediately.

Books by Philip K. Dick resulted in some spectacularly great movies. There were even ones that I didn't know at first they were based on his stories, and it took 10, maybe 15 minutes to realize - wait, the topic touched here look like something from Philip K. Dick's novels. and i was never proven wrong.

people who cannot digest his books are too shallow to understand what life is about, and can't appreciate those little, improbable gifts often given characters of his books, to be able to have more influence on own (or others) life that it had been given by the creator of life/evoluton etc.

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Please, there was NOTHING difficult to grasp in this movie... at all! There is no need whatsoever for multiple viewings to 'get it'. The movie sucked, plain and simple... one can easily determine that with a single viewing. The acting was atrocious, from the stars down to the extras. The story was barely even recognizable to the source... both of which left it not all that entertaining.

Stories by Philip K. Dick do make fabulous PREMISES and have the potential to make really great flicks... provided they (the directors, producers and screenwriters) actually stick relatively close to the source material. This however, was one of the most egregious mutilations of his work ever tranferred to film. The only ones that seem "intellectually incapable" in this situation, were the screenwriters. Most that have adapted his work have managed to stay true... at least thematically... to Dick's material, regardless of the changes they made in order to better suit film. Veerhoeven's Total Recall, A Scanner Darkly, Impostor, Paycheck, and perhaps to a slightly lesser degree Blade Runner & Minority Report, have all achieved this. Next failed... MISERABLY!

Seriously, as an implied reader of his work you should know why this steaming pile really failed... and it has nothing to do with the audience's inability to understand it!

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If you give this 7.5 you clearly haven't understood the imdb rating system an/or haven't seen anough films yet to form a correct rating for yourself.

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theres no point of having a system of rating which misguides people.however i'm sure it entertained me and personally many of my friends.this is not the first time i got dissappointed because of absurd ratings but several movies which really stunned me by its ratings.so interesting to meet a person who is contented with this system of rating.

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i think it's solid to myself i give it a solid 7/10 as i seen it a few times now and i don't get tired of it. so based on that i would say it's at least a little bit underrated.

the film takes to much hate but i can sort of see why people dis it as it's not in line with that 'typical good film' that's usually praised on IMDB. that and with Nicolas Cage being in it, whom i am a general fan of myself, that gives people even more excuse to dis it since it's typically popular to make fun of Nicolas Cage on IMDB it appears.

p.s. plus this was THE FILM that i first took notice of how attractive Jessica Biel is ;)



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I watched the movie yesterday and I can go along with the rating as it is written here in IMDB.

Watching the movie I hade the feeling afterwards that it should have been a series...it had somewhat of a pilot touch.

I have no problem with him seeing two minutes into the future. I also have no problem with him being able to look,look,look,look,look,look (and so on) until he gets it right (in the end scenes this is visible9

But...he seems to have failed in the end and his words are "I made a mistake" (or so was the german translation)...what mistake....he can only see two minutes so it is possible for him not to see the explosion (which he also says in the motel)...so what mistake was thereß

After it is clear that the whole ending was a "view into the future" one wouldn't feel to bad if the movie went on some more. I mean the movie clocks at around 1 hour and 25 minutes of pure storytelling...did no one see the need to expand the story some more...let's say 120 minutes (Bad Boys 2 runs more than that)

If they would have expanded it a little then there would not be the big ananswered question as to why he is capable of seeing further into the future if Biels Character is involved...they gave NO explanation for that...not even a hint.

As I said...if this were a pilot for a series it would be great...and you would expect to get the answers in the seasons of running...but the way it is right now...

No more than 6/10 - Sorry...

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um, because it is THE STEEEYOOPIDEST PLOT OF ALL TIME!!!

Okay - so for example, take the diner scene - he runs thru about 10 different alternate scenario's until he gets the one right so he gets the girl...
why wouldn't this apply to HIS WHOLE LIFE??
Why would ANYTHING EVER go wrong for him, if he can just keep adjusting it?

In fact - HOW DOES HIS LIFE EVER GO FORWARD????

Where is he when he is seeing 2 minutes into the future? Isn't he just another second into the next 2 minutes in the future?

And htf did the terrorists even know/ give a $hit about him?!??

And since when do 9.8s immediately fall for creepy hobo's with birds on their heads spouting stalker-esque destiny quotes??

WORST MOVIE E-E-E-E-E-EVERS!

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His mistake was he was focused 100% on the girl, and the terrorists had set things up so that the bomb would be going off elsewhere while they would have the girl. That or they didn't and that's simply how things happened, but either way, in the future that we saw him see (and chances are he was able to see a lot more of them), he was focused on the girl and not on the bomb that unbeknownst to him was going to kill them all (he hadn't even done anything to figure out where it was going to be let alone when it would go off).

We don't know all the futures he saw that weren't shown to us, but presumably he'd have been able to focus on the bomb, find out where it would be and when it would go off, and do the same thing in the future that we saw, only direct the team to deal with the bomb. And of course the terrorists at that point didn't even know Biel was involved so with things done right, they'd not even know about her at all to be able to capture, which is of course why he said at the end as long as they leave her out of it.

Whether by accident or on purpose, the movie's a lot smarter than people give it credit for. It's not like super amazing, but sorta like Deja Vu, it's a slightly flawed playing out of an absolutely brilliant premise. It's a shame that both of those weren't written better and done by better directors, because done right they'd be as widely beloved as the likes of Inception or Memento.

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It was enjoyable enough but I gave it a '6' (which isn't really a bad rating). It was a great premise but the film was let down by the unnecessary romance plot, particularly one that was so unrealistic as to pair Cage with the too young Biel.



"I always pretend to root for Gryffindors but, secretly, I love my Slytherin boys."~ Karen, W&G

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It was pretty mediocre throughout, but the unfinished ending just ruined it for me completely. It could have been at least entertaining if they actually bothered to finish the movie.



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I didn't like the movie myself. Well what I saw of it anyway. But what I really coudn't stand was Jessica Biel. Ego the size of the planet Jupiter. She just makes me SICK---SICK---SICK!. When I went to see the movie with my Girlfreind, I didn't know Biel was in it otherwise I wouldn't have went. Fortunately my GF hated it too and hated Jessica Biel as well so we left before the movie was finsihed. I see on IMDB that it also lost money. It's funny Biel is in so many movies and yet I know so many people that can't stand her.

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