I've always wondered what was in Hilary's "special stuff".
What does anyone think it is and do we find out in the movie?
Cake or death? Err............cake please!
Doubt it, I think the League have said that either they'll never tell or that it means nothing. Face it, no matter what it is, what you thought of will be far better. That's what makes special stuff so special.
We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!
I always thought it was human flesh.
shareGo watch the extras on the Series 1 DVD.
Also, think about Hilary's surname (it helps to have some familiarity with Judaism here)
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I always thought it was coke:
-It gets you addictive
-It gives you nosebleeds
other reasons but I cant remember.
+ human flesh, of course. Tubbs' victims.
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I figured Hilary's "special stuff" was a subtle, yet delicious blend of pork, herbs, cocaine, and non-local human flesh (provided by the lovley Edward).
Sounds finger lickin' good if you ask me.
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yeah i suppose the whole briss thing suggests scrotum but i seriously doubt he could sell pounds of sausages made just out of human scrotum. he would have to clip a lot of people! i personally don't think the writers know what the stuff is...just the mystery.
sharei meant foreskin not scrotum... sorry..
ooh dear. there are times when u have to ask urself why u are up in the middle of the night on a message board correcting scrotum to foreskin.
life.
Wasnt there an episode when he goes into the forest at night to collect the special stuff and dont we get a glimpse of some beast thing? Hmmm, perhaps im confused with something else.
sharemy theory (which i doubt is correct) is that he gets his special stuff from edward. one time when you see that bald guy go ask tubbs for a can of coke (i can i cant??) edward appears from the shed, into which we can see lots of meat. when hilary goes to the woods, the figures are edward and david? =D
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Well, in the film, when Briss, Herr Lipp and the salesman guy (I forget his name) are in the car together at the beginning, I believe that something about "eyelids and bumholes" is mentioned. At which Briss smiles a little. Not conclusive, but indicative.
Plus, I wish they would make "The King's Evil" as a series or film. Twas wicked.
Like the other guy said, its what ever you want it to be- like the briefcase in pulp fiction, power of the human mind and all.
Having said that, what about in series 2 when Hilary and maurice go to get the shipment in the woods during a thunderstorm, and theres that hunched over silohuette of a 'thing'.
Aahhh speculation makes the world go round.
IN the commentary for series 2, they say they themselves have no idea what it actually is.
In the series 1 commentary, Shearsmith says: "It's the worst thing you can imagine"
Although in series 2, its an addictive meat of some kind, in series 1 they say it could be anything, from drugs to food to even "The worst child porn..."
The salesman guy is called Geoff Tipps. He was actually talking about the fact that he used to buy Hilary's pork pies when he said "bumholes and eyelids."
Geoff says "Hey, I used to eat your pork pies" then Hilary says, "they weren't pork" in a menacing manner and Geoff replies, "I know, I know. It's all bumholes and eyelids, innit? Still nice though." Geoff's referring to the fact that leftover pig parts (some really foul sounding) are used in making different pork products, though I'm not really sure about pork pie specifically.
It would seem Hilary is insinuating he used the "special stuff" in his pork pies when he says "they weren't pork" so menacingly, but since Hilary was so very selective about who he sold the "special stuff" to and since everyone who was buying it was aware of what it was (Geoff clearly has no idea what was in the meat that killed people), you have to wonder if Hilary actually sold ANY normal animal meat in his shop at all now...
Geoff is too dumb to catch on to ANY of this though, obviously, which is what makes the scene.
I figured the meat might be the offspring of humans mating with animals. Wasn't there a scene with a cow in a bed? On the other hand, there did seem to be a connection with the Local Shop, which suggests a more homicidal origin for the meat.
Whatever. It's not that much worse than the stuff sold as "beef" or "pork" because it all technically came from a cow or pig... wirebrushed off the bones, or skimmed from the rinse water or rendering vats and sold as bargain lunch meats. Check out the "Mischief" episode on meat pies. Yum.
I always liked the idea of the 'Special Stuff' deriving from body parts retrieved from the hospital. So, just as Mike King 'knows someone' who can furnish Lance with a 'new' arm, Hilary may know someone at the hospital happy to act as a supplier of 'exotic' meats. And as for a local serial killer being a potential source for Hilary's unusual product, Edward isn't the only one to fit the bill. There's the farmer, Jed Tinsel, too.
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In the live show, in one of the sketches that didn't make it on the DVD, there was a song based on "Sweeny Todd" which basically said that the Special Stuff was made from corpses which Hilary exhumed but I doubt this is cannonical. A friend of mine always had the theory that it was something silly like "Beef on the bone" (think back to the BSE panic in Britain a few years back!)
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The papa's wives theory could be true, but im convinced its the meat of "An Homunculus". The shillouteete of the gimp thing in the woods fits, and the nosebleeds fit too because we all know how poisonous homunculus are.
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