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I just dont get why he's a monster



From the start of the series,they show Johan as the cold blooded monster who is way more intelligent and cruel than others..He was able to close down an orphanage which was intent on creating sociopaths...Initially,it looked as if he wanted to hide his past and create a legacy for himself..

But later,he just wanted to visit that author of the book who orchestrated the Rose Mansion massacre..Why he wanted to do that?? If Doctor Temna wasnt following him,would he have done that massacre in that small village??

The reason why became a monster is really weak..He did all this just because his mother loved his sister more than him???

Can someone answer me the whole point of this 74 episode plot???

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serious spoiler alert- please. be careful
Well, I will prefer the positive interpretation of this anime.. That the point is that there are no such a thing like monsters and that what screwed Johan wasn`t one thing but several things...

There is a book called "another monster" written by the same author. There every character that survived the incident tells their story to a journalist that is after a new serial killer that shares similarities with Johan. This is par of the interview of Dr. Reichwein:

"And what are your thoughts on Johan the Monster, now that all is said and done?
"Monster...? There is no such thing as monsters. Johan was a human being... After the fire in the Munich University Library, he spent his life trying to be human... that's what I think. And while we call those people who commit murder without blinking an eye 'monsters,' we cannot lose the act of murder. We must look at them head-on, and see them as humans. We must remember that they are not monsters, but human beings with names like all the rest of us... That is the key to understanding what Johan was, exactly."

In summary, that moment when he saw the face her mother did while giving up on her sister freaked him out, plus she left, plus he stayed in the house with those horrible books alienating his mind while waiting for Nina, plus he went to Kinderheim, plus his sister- the only person he cared about- shot him in the head, plus he became extremely hated due to killing a large bunch of people while:
a. becoming the heir of Schulwald,
b. taking care of a group of nazis and protecting Nina,
c. recovering his memories,
d. trying to avenge a wrong that wasn`t his.
by that point he felt truly irredeemable, so the last step was his only logical conclusion:
that before he killed himself he has to murder the mastermind behind the experiments on the red rose mansion + kinderheim and everything this man loved, -or knew- and any proof behind the experiments or kinderheim in order to dissapear completely, and left his sister have a happy anonymous life.. plus messing with Tenma as Johan was convinced since the incident with his mother that the only moment when people got equal is in death, and that Tenma believed tha everyone is equal proving a point will give him rest.

When Johan realized that he wasn't a monster since the beginning of his life- the reason why he changed his plan at the library-, but that someone placed this monster inside him instead, he wanted to get better..or at least to stop the person who did that to him, plus getting some revenge.

Similar to Grimmer. But he was far far more screwed than Grimmer...

Do you probably remember the side effects of Grimmer`s time in Kinderheim 511, he couldn`t recall any memory before he entered there, not even his name, he was uncapable of feeling love, joy or even the pain of losing his son. Only at the end of his live he could control Steiner the magnificent.

There is also Roberto, who killed to any person that Johan ordered him to do so, just because of gratitude. He couldn't feel any remorse at the end.

And those two only received the special treatment of Kinderheim 511.

Johan got the reading sessions, too- they had a similar effect-.

Plus he had his memories switched with the ones of Nina about that horrible experiment, all but one, the most important memory of Nina: "a person can become in whichever he/she wants, you two are like precious jewels to me, that is the reason why you shouldn't became monsters" As the show repeated every once in a while.. what a person needs to mature is love.

Love was what Johan lacked the most. Although he and Nina got conceived with love, their mother was blinded with hate, waiting that their babies avenge her and her lover.. he was raised with hate.

However, he loved his sister. No matter how cruel he was with others, he thought that his sister was him, and he was his sister. Even if he died to protect Nina it would be okay because he was part of her anyway. He killed all the people that tried to send them back to Czechoslovakia,and the Liebhearts to protect his sister. And he got shot in the head instead of a few understanding words.. breaking him a little bit more if possible.

After he got his memories back, and realized that all the suffering he was carring was Nina's memories, he decided there was no reasons to keep living but to destroy to the person responsible- without knowing the true feelings of Bonaparta, because it seems that Nina never tell him that part-..

Plus, he felt truly irredeemable by then, really deppressing if you think about that.. he wanted to avenge something that never happened to him.. and he believed that because he wanted to remember someone who hates him because he killed lots of people to protect her.. and she wanted to kill him...

So the only thing left to him was to die, along with the guy who destroyed everything that was pure in his life. Bonus points for killing everyone who might be related to that guy so that no one remeber that atrocity, and every one who survived the ordeal- Nina- have a new life.

All because he had a memory that was only his, when he saw a monster. when Bonaparta made her mother choose one child over another..

The final reason, the true monster, was that someone choose one person`s life over another. That is the only monstruous thing, that we as humans overlook the life of other human being, forgetting they have names..





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