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Didn't Realize This Flopped So Hard


$20 million opening weekend yet only made $39 million once it was all said and done. What went wrong? I'm watching this now and I think it's actually pretty well done and there are more scares here than in the first one.

Some of the critic reviews are just silly. Most of them said the story is hard to follow well maybe they should try harder to focus. The story is actually very easy to follow and I think it flows well. just my opinion

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Just shows how much the said critics know about films eh? If i understood it on my first watch then they should've too. It was fairly straightforward. I dunno really why it flopped (well it didnt, it passed it's budget by quite a bit)

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Generally speaking the plot was perhaps a bit too complex. There's a bit too much happening here, with so many characters and a lot more fleeting from one scene to another than in the first film. In saying that, if you concentrate on the film you can follow it without too many problems.

I think The Grudge 2 was unfairly treated upon its release - it's a much better film than many people give it credit for.

And I wouldn't say it flopped exactly. It still almost doubled its budget in America - and that's before you take into account overseas takings and DVD sales. I'm not sure about America but here in the UK The Grudge 2 actually did quite well on DVD.

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The story is hard to follow. It's not the peoples' fault that the film was incomprehensible.

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I was able to follow it. My problem was that the dialogue and acting were below average and most of the so-called scares (ie. principal scene) were just plain laughable!

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I remember reading somewhere (or maybe a friend told me), that there were three plotlines in The Grudge 2, with Aubrey's plot unfolding immediately after The Grudge, and the other two plots taking place two years later. So when I finally watched it on DVD, I had no problem following the film's non-linear storyline, and it all made perfect sense to me. But...

I can understand why people have a hard time following The Grudge 2's plot, especially if they don't focus and follow every little bit. The first scene after the credits, where Allison, Vanessa and Miyuki visit the house, and Miyuki says something about how, two years ago, in 2004, Karen killed her boyfriend there and tried to set the house on fire. That right there should clue people in that the schoolgirls plotline is supposed to take place in present day (meaning 2006). But it's just one line, basically a throwaway, and the only line in the film that reveals the two-year time gap (I think, but I could be wrong).

Also, I think the harsh reviews for this film is because a number of reviewers knew that there were four previous entries in the Ju-on series already, with Shimizu's American remake, and this movie, being the fifth and sixth entries. And here was Shimizu and Columbia Pictures, trying to wring scares out of basically the same story for the sixth time. Plus, after The Grudge's release in '04, a lot of people tracked down and watched the original Ju-on films, so by the time The Grudge 2 arrived in theatres less than two years later, everyone was pretty Grudged out.

I like The Grudge 2, but I think the film does drag at points, and the pacing could've been tightened some. The 98-minute version of The Grudge just flies by, but The Grudge 2 Director's Cut, which runs 108 minutes, feels a half-hour longer at times. They definitely could've trimmed 10-15 minutes off of it I think.


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^^Agreed. It felt much longer and it didn't help matters with them killing off Karen off the way they did and so early on. Not to mention, killing off all the characters so quickly before it went off. It felt like they had so many characters that they didn't know what to do with them, especially by the end.

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Didn't Realize This Flopped So Hard

How did it "flop so hard" when it made twice its cost in the USA (it cost $20 million and made over $39 million) and $71 million overall (that is, worldwide including the USA)? So it made three and a half times its cost at the box office.

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critic's are useless. this movie is great

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The story was hard to follow on the first watch back in 2006. And two of the dark haired female characters looked so much alike With the separate story lines I confused them for each other. I thought it was Amber Tamblyn in that apartment building at the end lol.

Watching the film again twelve years later it has a lot of problems but it’s not as awful or confusing as I initially thought it was. It’s an interesting mystery with some cheesy elements. The “mirror scene” however always unsettled me.

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