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Question for those living in Ohio

posted 19 years ago by dom_286
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I have a question for the people that live in Ohio. I noticed that two posters (mrenigma22 & Barbossas_Apples) are from Ohio, but didn't vote for him. My question to you two any idea why a majority of people voted for him? Assuming they the elections weren't rigged.

It's been bothering me for the last two years. I could never understand why a state that so close to us (I live in Michigan) voted for Bush.

This post is not meant to be sarcastic and I don't mean to offend anyone.

I often wondered what reasons the people in Ohio had to vote for Bush. We both have a huge automotive industry and people are losing their jobs (especially overseas). Unemployment is up and cost of living as been up each year he's been in office.

We have huge Union based people in Michigan so jobs have always been the most important.

1. So I'm thinking with was more of a religion/Christian thing in Ohio?

2. Did people in Ohio believe that John Kerry was going to take their right to own firearms? One of the guys I work with said that people in Ohio got scared that Kerry was going to outlaw guns. I never heard Kerry say that and more importantly it's in the constitution, and it will not be touched.

My question to you to, since you live there, what has most of the people in Ohio saying is their reason for voting in Bush. Just curious..... Thanks.

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[–] jwmoore727 19 years ago

I am from Ohio and I voted for Bush. For one thing I am pro-life, and also against gay marriages. You got to remember also that there are a ton of little farm towns around OH that are pretty much all conservative.

[–] adam-martin8023 18 years ago

I live in South Dayton, Ohio and I voted for George W. Bush. I'm pro-life and against gay marriage. I think Bush was the superior candidate on the ballot.

[–] Post_deIeted 18 years ago

I cannot vote, but my parents voted for Kerry. I was shocked about Ohio's overall vote as well - One thing is certain, Bush knows how to manipulate the working class.

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[–] Wu_Da_Ke 18 years ago

I cannot vote, but my parents voted for Kerry. I was shocked about Ohio's overall vote as well - One thing is certain, Bush knows how to manipulate the working class.

And don't leave out Christians. Since 2004 there have really been no federal reforms concerning abortion or gay marriage. On state levels there have been.

Against civil liberty and against freedom of choice is why people voted for Bush? So tell me again, how is the United States different than the formerly oppresssed-Iraq-before-we-liberated-them?

[–] purplelyna 18 years ago

why are firearms so important in America? You guys dont need guns to feel protected..London is one of the most dangerous countries and firearms arent allowed!

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[–] timberlax 18 years ago

That's because they have a camera covering every square foot. It's hard for someone to commit a crime and get away with constant surveillance every 2 steps.

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[–] mt2131 18 years ago

republicans got the pedo thing covered bro, or haven't you been watching the news?

and everybody knows the hicks who voted for bush *beep* their farm animals.

[–] Wu_Da_Ke 18 years ago

What in the wide, wide world of sports does marriage have to do with pedophilia? Besides, I've heard of way more cases of straight parents molesting their children than gay parents.

And pro-life? Sure, you probably support the death penalty, too.

[–] jesusalien 18 years ago

Wu-Da-Ke

You make the remark "pro-life, you're probably for the death penalty as well."

I'm just wondering if you are just the opposite? If not then I apologize for making any assumptions but, if you are then what's the difference between you and him/her?

This very point is one that hits me to the bone. If a person is straight ahead, all-the-way "pro-life and pro-death penalty" or "pro-choice and anti-death penalty" then that is a person that I know I'm never going to be able to have a reasonable debate with. Those are the two core questions I can ask someone and if I get either of those responses I know exactly where that person is on the political spectrum.

I'm also finding kind of funny the topic that started this thread and how doom and gloom it was on the economy (granted it was started in '05.) Because the economy is soaring right now. And that 12,000+ in the DOW is real money today as opposed to the propped up Enron based index that we had in the '90's.

Show me the JFK of today and I will be the 1st one in line to vote for him. A tax-cutting, democrat who is very aggresive in military posture just doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately, neither does the republican who wants to keep the federal gov. small, give power to the states, and stay out of people's bedrooms.

[–] Wu_Da_Ke 18 years ago

This very point is one that hits me to the bone. If a person is straight ahead, all-the-way "pro-life and pro-death penalty" or "pro-choice and anti-death penalty" then that is a person that I know I'm never going to be able to have a reasonable debate with.

Funny how unreasonable that very statement is. You can't have a reasonable debate with a person who has a particular opinion? I just made a jab at how hypocritical it sounds to say you're pro-LIFE and be for the DEATH penalty. It was tongue-in-cheek.

As far as the economy and how it's soaring, in what country do you live? I'm glad you log in to www.msn.com to check the DJIA but that high number reflects the stock prices of about thirty. So great, a bunch of billionaires are even richer than ever now. The Dow and its representation of the economy doesn't reflect unemployment, the falling value of real estate or the loss of retirement pensions and benefits. As a matter of fact, most of those negative factors increase the value of stocks.

Relax! Yes, it's harder to find a job and you can't afford to go to college. Don't worry, the military will train you in a field, give you experience and provide you money for college! Join the Army and at 18 you can go from below the poverty line to lower middle class overnight. And how convenient, there's a war going on spread out over (as of today) two countries. You need money and the government needs bodies; it's the perfect fit!

[–] thefirstenemy 16 years ago

and also against gay marriages.

Then don't have one, *beep*

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[–] sir-montag 18 years ago

Fairly simple, in my case.

Bush: Pro-life, Decisive.
Kerry: Pro-abortion, Waffler extraordinaire.

It was more a vote for the 'least bad' candidate rather than the best one. Out of two bad choices, Bush won in my book. It wasn't a case of 'this man can't screw up', but rather 'this man won't screw up worse than Kerry'. That's a horrid policy to base one's vote on, but that is how it ended up.

I bear Bush no great love, but he won as the least of two evils.

[–] timberlax 18 years ago

It wasn't a case of 'this man can't screw up', but rather 'this man won't screw up worse than Kerry'.

What I don't get is how can you make a statement like that without Kerry having been in office to say he would have screwed up more than Bush. He was senator of Massachussetts for 20 years for crying out loud, meaning there was SOMETHING he was doing that people liked.

[–] sir-montag 18 years ago

That was the perception I got.

Of course, being unable to see what would happen if either were in office, I had to go with my gut instinct. I watched the fellow waffle on what kind of water he wanted to drink on one occasion (he went back and forth five times, as I recall) and I was like "Wow. This guy is *incredibly* indecisive."

And, of course, there was the whole 'not being pro-life' thing. That would be the tie-breaker in any election with any politician. This being a religious issue, it's not one you can really debate right or wrong on, as no one can decisively say "X is right conclusively". However, it is something that is always foremost in my mind.

[–] mbphilly 18 years ago

My sister's friend moved back to Pittsburgh, after the 2004 election, from Ohio. She said she knew long before the election which way they were gonna go. Oh well, most important thing is to worry about this election now.

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[–] abobcatgirl 16 years ago

I just saw this documentary, and I know it's way after the original post, but I want to weigh in. My sister and I both live in suburbs of Columbus, Ohio, and we both voted for Kerry. My parents live in rural Ohio and they voted for Bush (Thanksgiving was interesting that year). I really think the documentary hit the nail on the head when it talked about image being a major factor in people voting for Bush over Kerry. I think the rural people saw Bush as being a good old boy like them, a salt-of-the-earth sort of man. You don't hear a lot of people in those rural areas discussing national issues (local yes, but national no) because they have a more localized sense of being - I know because I grew up there. Whereas most of the urban dwellers (especially in Columbus and Cleveland) couldn't relate to "country boy" Bush OR posh Kerry, and so they voted based on party affiliation or national issues they felt strongly about. That's just my opinion, and I'm no political analyst, so take it for what it's worth.

[–] Anne8 16 years ago

I no longer live in Ohio but I did in 2004, and worked on the Bush campaign both in 2004 and 2000. For me, it comes down to being conservative in my politics -- especially with regards to the economy, military, and security issues. I believe in taxes being collected to fund the basic functions of the government -- not to re-distribute wealth.

The original post pointed to the state of Ohio's economy as a reason the state shold have gone to Kerry. There's no question that Ohio's economy is in bad shape. That's part of the reason I left the state. But is that the fault of leaders in the federal government, or something the president can fix? Or is it that fault of state leaders? I blame people like Bob Taft for Ohio's economic woes - not George Bush. The president's job is to take care of the country on a whole. That is going to mean some states win out and others lose. It's up to the governors and other leaders in each state to make sure that his or her state is in the winning column.

[–] pninson 16 years ago

Bush appointed John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court during his second term. Both these men are staunchly anti-abortion, so you can't accuse him of not having done anything about the issue. As Anthony Kennedy is likely to join with the conservative majority, there is an excellent chance that Roe v. Wade will be overturned in the near future.

I consider Bush a dreadful President, a disgrace to the office. He is ferociously hostile to individual freedom and promotes the power of big government at every opportunity. He spends recklessly and cuts taxes for the rich at the same time, leaving our government dependent on credit from China, a Communist tyranny of the most brutal kind. He has made us less safe by using brute military force in situations where detective work and even diplomacy are called for.

Bush had flip-flopped on numerous issues, but not abortion. He hasn't tried to promote a constitutional amendment banning it, but there's no need when you've got Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia, and Kennedy on the court, with John Paul Stevens ready to retire any day now.

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