Anyone find propoganda in this documentary?

I only really watched the first 2 hours, the 3rd hour I thought was horrible and not worth watching. I do agree that the film used techniques (ie. music) to impose judgement on the information it was showing. I don't think it was so pro-socialist though, just pro-liberal capitalist.

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Why don't you crawl out of your cave and read something BESIDES Milton Friedman - he was a foolish old nerd, nothing more.

I just finished watching this series, and I agree that Curtis does use propaganda techniques in his films. I also have to say they are immensely watchable. I've never gotten an impression that he is a socialist, or that he dreams of some "Socialist paradise". I think what he was getting at when comparing american citizens under Roosevelt, to citizens of today, is that today we're consumers first, citizens second.

Are there any good Curtis interviews online, other than the short one one Errol Morris' website?

Of course it's anti business, I'm not sure what you were expecting. Is business beyond criticism? Is capitalism beyond reproach?

Since you don't address the thesis of the documentary, or even anything specific, but instead offer only "it's anti-capitalist" as a criticism (for which you could not be more vacuous), we can just safely ignore you. OK?

I think you need to read more Noam Chomsky, Mikhail Bakunin, Bob Black, Peter Kropotkin, and Pierre Proudhon before attacking socialism and anarchism.

Property is Theft.
Capitalism is Cannibalism.

Uh, the 4th part wasnt all that pro-socialist...
More importantly though the point of the documentary had nothing to do with socialism, the point is that people replace rational tought with their desires and business and politicians can easily profit off this.

you need to take this, just as you should take commercials/propaganda, with a grain of salt.
The important part should ONLY be the message and the facts.
For example the conflicting ideologies of thinking that people are rational and thinking they are irrational and what progress/harm has come from influential people that believe one or the other.
this documentary tends to show the harm of a irrational based mindset, and at least parts one and two, which are the only ones I've seen, offers quite a compelling argument :).

I've studied this documentary quite thoroughly and the only negative thing I have to say about it is that it does NOT come down on any one side (meaning it's balanced) but that's a fault. What good is it to point out the problems on all sides but no solutions? There's a battle (or is it balance?) between business, government, and our own self-interest. That battle is over keeping us docile and satisifed so we don't kill each other like a third world country. The rest of his documentaries address this, and it's easy to only hear one side when you watch it. I had to watch them four times before I could wrap my mind around the big picture without focusing on just one side or another. Fortunately Curtis does present the information to see all sides, for better or worse. In the end we are either tools or self-indulgent, but I'd take that over living in a third world country any day.

The best analogy I have for it is The Matrix. Knowing all sides is like taking the red pill, you wake up from the illusion of business, politics, and your own selfishness to see the illusion they create distracts us from the reality that we are a bunch of animals flailing in our own feces. If you'd rather enjoy the illusion don't watch these documentaries (or his others). Just don't complain about the illusion being propogated 'by the man' because we are 'the man' and the alternative is what you see in nations ruled by religious law (oppression of free thought as in the Middle East) or barbarism (as in places like South Africa). Make sure to watch all of his documentaries, it's like walking through Curtis' exploration of the illusion and the alternatives and why the reality means NOT being distracted from how miserable we are to each other and what the world would be like without consumerism as an alternate religion.