Nice movie BUT:
I don't see the reason why Hollywood usually represents non-USA police/army/investigation departments like freakin villagers.
Saudi army according to the movie had NO clue of how to search, examine and investigate any evidence. They had no idea about asking what witnesses saw etc.
I'm sure Saudi don't have any department so advanced like "CSI" but still. They don't live in stone age :>
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They didn't. The Saudi police officer had an extremely good grasp of investigative technique. The general, however, didn't.
Perhaps they purposely didn't ask witnesses, as you may have noticed the second one they talked to was overwhelmingly hostile, and perhaps they didn't want to deal with that, but allow the FBI to handle it? It's not like the FBI doesn't do this very thing already.
Yeah, you gotta remember the investigation wasn't in the hands of the Saudi police, it was in the hands of the military (whom the Saudis brought in partly because the police were compromised, but probably also because they have bigger guns and thus show the Americans how seriously the attacks are being taken).
Obviously, the military isn't going to know much about running a police investigation. Once they turned the investigation away from the soldiers and over to a real cop (Faris), things went pretty well.
Denny Crane.
I see what the op saying, not original
shareAs others have pointed out, one would not expect Army personnel of either country to be investigative experts.
On the other hand, I am not so sure as you seem to be that there is no Saudi institution as skilled as American CSI.
The movie shows the Saudi best as fully equal to the American best (FBI). Colonel Faris Al Ghazi holds his own with Fleury; in fact they develop a tremendous mutual respect.
actually, the movie is quite accurate
the fbi was called in to both yemen after the cole bombing and saudi arabia (covertly) after an american compound was attacked (they also investigated the kenyan embassy bombing)
in fact, had it not been for corrupt yemeni officials, the fbi would have actually caught bin laden in 2000.
>actually, the movie is quite accurate
not really, in real life a FEST consists of several agencies to include the bureau.
>the fbi was called in to both yemen after the cole bombing
and NCIS and others and host government.
> and saudi arabia (covertly) after an american compound was attacked
are you talking about 2004? how covert was it when it is being discussed right here in a 'net forum? the chief of mission with consent of the Saudis agree to have a US law enforcement team come in.
>(they also investigated the kenyan embassy bombing)
you forgot Dar es Salaam... and again with other USG agencies and host government.
>in fact, had it not been for corrupt yemeni officials, the fbi would have actually caught bin laden in 2000.>
the usual complaint if "blah blah hadn't gotten away we would have...". The fact is it didn't happen so move on.
To be fair the movie is not so much exaggeration as it is a gross oversimplification of the processes involved in an investigation such as this.
right, and you know this how? have you, like me, worked for the fbi? didn't thinks so, kid.
shareyes I have experience in this. At least one FEST and an ordered departure to boot... your pejorative "kid" notwithstanding.
sharenubbytubbybiatchesgalore..
If you really are an 1811 or other similar job code you would have the maturity to knock off the sarcasm as we hardly know each other. Secondly, you conclude your post in in the “Syriana” movie thread with “and no, i am not a conservative. im not a republican. im not even an american.”
By not being an American citizen you are not an 1811 because US citizenship is a requirement for the career. Therefore, by lacking clearance you likely are not "in the know." I may also reasonably presume you have facile knowledge of: chief of mission authority, country clearance, types of criminal removal, OIO, etc. People who enjoy the privilege do not typically allow their egos to openly and willfully declare they have some professional association with the FBI. If you are who you say you are then you are being quite cavalier about the privilge you have been granted.
However, I give you the benefit of a doubt- maybe you are who you say you are then you could/would: 1) articulate each subject I cite above and; 2) you would exercise sufficient discretion not to put this on IMDB as those subjects are quite beyond the scope of “movie reviews” for The Kingdom.
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