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Radical Islam is to Muslims as the KKK is to Christians

posted 16 years ago by armyofjason
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For me I’m a Christian and I hate the fact that groups like the KKK claim to be Christian when in all reality they are doing the opposite. For outsiders just focusing on those groups will look at the rest of us negatively. I don’t know any Islamic, but I do imagine the “good” population of them feel the same way towards the radicals in their religion. Those radicals aren’t speaking for the majority of them, but only a small few. Just because some people blow up buildings doesn’t mean everyone with the same religion agrees with it.

[–] adlion944 16 years ago

The difference is that there are a few hundred KKK out of a billion Christians while there are hundreds of thousands of radical Muslims out of a population of 700 million.

All religion is idiotic.

Why would a perfect, omnipotent, omniscient being "need" anything from the primitive life forms it created? Why would said being of infinite power, knowledge and perfection need a tiny human to kneel on a rug and face Mecca twice a day. The answer? God wouldn't. Plus, there's no God.

[–] fatima-aldhaher 16 years ago

You need some serious facts to back up your statements.
There's 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world, and escalating as it is the current fastest growing religion in the world. Thats almost double the number you suggested.
Because you're an athiest doesn't give you permission to insult those that have sought refuge in religion.

[–] opaz 16 years ago

Because you're an athiest doesn't give you permission to insult those that have sought refuge in religion.

He can insult anyone he wants, the only thing he lose is the respect of those he insult, which when it comes to muslims, he never had it anyway. Also, I´m offended that you use the term "sought refuge in religion" because it has been revealed that islamic schools encourage young muslims to rape women and dominate their neighbourhoods through every day terror to force people to convert and "seek refuge in Islam". The fact that you use that term makes me sick. And muslims are extremely racist and bigot, I´ve heared children as young as four call other parents whores, something they could´ve only picked up from their parents.

[–] imiture 16 years ago

are you a f..cking retard Rape women you think any religon teaches that let alone islam if you knew your facts islam was the first religon to give women rights even before judaism and christianity and i dont know where youve been getting your information but sir i am here to correct you!!!! ive never posted on here but i felt condemed to do so!!!!! and muslims are racist bigots? how does that make sense??? your generalising a billion people... islam teaches all men and women are born equal. my friend your are the racist bigot.

[–] bertrambunter 16 years ago

Sorry, but we don't perceive your religion the way you tell us to, we see what is on the news every night, we've all seen the hate videos of beheadings of infidels, we all lived through 9/11, 7/7, Atocha, Bali, Glasgow airport and so on and so forth. And we all know about honor killings, murder of rape victims by a family member, religious police who refuse to allow young girls out of burning buildings because they are not sufficiently covered, causing their deaths, and I like many others, have seen small muslim children shouting abuse at women, native white christian women in the UK, because although perfectly modestly dressed they are not covered from head to foot. We see your religion as a cult of hatred of anything and anyone which is infidel, haram, and within the dar-ul-harb., although funnily enough, you muslims don't seem to mind immigrating to infidel lands in numbers as large as you can manage.

And your abusive language cuts no ice with us - it is just another manifestation of your hatred.

[–] [email protected] 16 years ago

What you see in the media is not a good way to determine that nature of any group of people. Why do you think so many foreigners hate Americans and have such a misperception about us? Because of what they see in the media. As the point of this thread is, the actions of a few don't determine the nature of the rest of the group.

[–] naimakhalid 16 years ago

Im a muslim, and yeah ive seen all those videos aswell. Those people who kill others in the name of Islam are only muslim by name. Suicide bombing is never justifiable in Islam. Suicide amounts to nothing less than murder and is thus repulsive in Islam, which is a religion that champions the sanctity of life. Stuff like honor killing are usually done by uneducated people who dont know any better. The part you said about religious police is disgusting and those police have no right to do that. Small children abusing others is disgusting aswell and Islam itself doesn't ever say that its ok to abuse anyone. These things you mentioned are because of culture and not religion. Also i was born in England and have never been brought up to belive that i have to hate people that are infidel. All i can say is that you really have to see the true Islam which isnt always shows on the news.

[–] muhulu 16 years ago

All i can say to u folks is: DONT BELEIVE WHAT U SEE IN THE MEDIA.
The media is obviously incorrect. Do research on ur own. I am a danish muslim, and i know true islam. U cant possibly kill innocent people in the name of allah. It actually says in the quran that it is the same as killing all humanity by killig one innocent man/woman. Because allah created all of us, he didnt only create muslims, remember that. That is at least what i beleive.

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[–] snowthedirtbub-1 16 years ago

Dang...

There is no such thing as stupid questions, just stupid people.

[–] naimakhalid 16 years ago

can you tell me where it says that in the quran please, thanks.

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[–] naimakhalid 16 years ago

It refers to the hypocrites who lived among muslims and mixed with them. Muslims were enjoined to fight them as a class and not each and every one of them individually, and to fight them by exposing their malpractices and hypocritical deeds by bringing them to the notice of the Holy Prophet.

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[–] naimakhalid 16 years ago

ok 9:73 refers to how the Prophet should strive against the hypocrites, btu it doesnt say how he should. There is nothing to suggest the idea of fighting with a sword. The Prophet never actua;;y waged war against the hyupocrites.

4:76 also refers to the Hypocrites or the internal enemies of Islam and mentions their 2 prominent traits.

9:29 refers to the People of the Book who livedin Arabia. Like the idolators they were actively hostile to Islam and planned and plotted to exterminate it. Muslims were ordered to fight them unless they agreed to live as loyal and peaceful subjects. The tax the non-muslims had to pay as free subjects of the muslim state in return for the protection they were given. The muslims were given a heavier tax and had to perform militarty service which non-muslims didnt have to. The non - mulims had equal social rights as the muslims.

[–] stanleygoodspeed99 15 years ago

How can you berate something you clearly know nothing about or even understand?

"I´m offended that you use the term "sought refuge in religion""

You clearly didn't even understand the context in which this was being used. Speaking of 'sought refuge in religion' in this case is about people who have tried to find God to get meaning in their lives, not the twisted diatribe that you went on.

"it has been revealed that islamic schools encourage young muslims to rape women and dominate their neighbourhoods through every day terror to force people to convert and "seek refuge in Islam"."

It has also been revealed that many of the Islamic faith treat women with respect and do not cheat on their wives. Coming out with that is like hating Christianity because 'it has been revealed that some priests molest small children'. You can't draw the ridiculous generalisations that you have.

"I am Jack's cold sweat."

[–] tauiota2 15 years ago

The Soviets did one right thing. The proclaimed that "religion is the opium of people" and destroyed everything related to that. I wish someday religion is wiped out of this planet like "black-death" or other extinct diseases.

[–] hjeppeh 15 years ago

The Soviets were correct, except the part with Communism and totalitarianism.
Religion is a blight on humanity. It is the most widespread disease on the planet, causing ignorance and fanaticism.

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[–] punter_ag 15 years ago

Ok if we want to roll with KKK to Saudi comparisons.

KKK reformed in 1978 under Dr David Duke and denounced violence. It became a club where people of white descent can appreciate their heritage, like many ethnic groups have but whites dont.

When did Saudi reform?

[–] samuelr-1 16 years ago

A quick guide: Wahhabism is a sect created by some dude in 17th century, Islam was manipulated for his own political and economical needs. Most muslims aren't Wahhabists, but even inside the wahhabists there are the radicals and the moderate ones. And also there are other sects crazy deviant sects whoi think wahhabism isnt islamic enough. Read Quran is just like bible, for general culture and try to read more about muslims they arent all monsters. I'm not muslim just interested in ME islamic social studies.

[–] TheConfounder 16 years ago

"Plus, there's no God."
You cannot make a statement of fact without proof. And don't bring that stupid arguement that Christinas have to prove God first, not atheists. YOU just said, as a statement of fact: "Plus, there's no God."
The burden of proof is on you to prove your own statement. Feel up to the challenge?

What can I say? I was raised by wolves.

[–] adlion944 16 years ago

Sure... why does the Universe need a creator "God"?

The universe has simply just been here forever. If you can't live with that, then why can you live with the concept of a God who's been here forever?

Just adds another, unnecessary layer to the beyond. God has no reason to exist. The universe didn't need a God to create it.

There sure isn't a loving personal God, that's for sure.

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[–] blackthirteen 16 years ago

Why would a perfect, omnipotent, omniscient being "need" anything from the primitive life forms it created? Why would said being of infinite power, knowledge and perfection need a tiny human to kneel on a rug and face Mecca twice a day. The answer? God wouldn't. Plus, there's no God.

Too bad for those of us who look frankly at the reality of this universe that the god believers outnumber us and are going to destroy the world in the name of their ignorance and fear.

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[–] saido 15 years ago

Would be interesting to know the source of your statistics. Muslims are ca. 1400 million not 700.

[–] fezgod 15 years ago

Ok then, if religion is idiotic than its ok for some random person to walk up to your whole family and gun them down? If there's no God and thus, no Judgment or afterlife, there's no need to live life with morals, correct?

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[–] emeraldcit 15 years ago

I agree with adlion944. Although you did get some of your numbers wrong.

Religion must die for us to live. Period. Can't Frak with it.

"When you understand why you dismiss all other gods you will understand why I dismiss yours"

[–] GayActivist 15 years ago

adlion944 - RIGHT ON!

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[–] akkid89 16 years ago

I don't agree. While it is the closest comparison for the extremes of Islam and Christianity, the KKK can hardly be compared to Muslim terror groups. Radical Islam makes up a much bigger part of Islam than radical Christianity does with Christianity. The average Muslim isn't as quick to denounce extremist Islam groups as the average Christian is to deounce their own extremist groups.

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[–] The_NightRaven 16 years ago

"as the average Christian is to denounce their own extremist groups."
When was the last time you heard Christians publicly denounce KKK? How often do priests go out in the media to say that most Christians aren't like KKK or other extremist groups?
Not very often, and it's probably because most people in the west have enough knowledge about this that they don't confuse the two, and most Christians never even think about the extremist groups as they are so far removed from their own beliefs. It's probably the same thing with Islam and Islamic countries.

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[–] tonezak5 16 years ago

I fully agree to the original post. I made this likeness back in 2001. Both extreem groups believe that they are doing the work of their religion. It's these fanatics that give all religion a bad name by perverting the message.

[–] QMan000 16 years ago

Facts of Islam
-1.3 to 1.8 Billion Muslims
-One of the Fastest growing religions in the world
-one of the fastest growing religions in the United States, growing even in the face of extreme opposition painted by the media.
-Muslims pray five times a day, not two as the bigot up top said.
-Just looking at Holy Scriptures, Islam is far more accepting of other races and women than Judaism or Christianity.
-All negative aspects of Islam, as seen in the West, are actually products of culture not religion itself.

Some other facts that you failed to point out
-the KKK isn't the only Christian extremist group in existence, there are thousands of groups with thousands of members.
-The Army of God and the IRA are good examples of religious extremist groups.
-Islamic Extremism is more prominent because they appear in societies that are literally being attacked in all aspects everyday. try living in Palestine and you will see that these groups are more political than religious.

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[–] clynningram 16 years ago

There is no comparison between the two. First of all most churches denounced the Klan unlike so called moderate muslims who never say anything about the extremist in their midst.

[–] AmarR123 16 years ago

hundreds of thousands of radical Muslims out of a population of 700 million.

Where the fk do you get your convoluted information from?
There's well over 1.5 billion Muslims in the world that figure is exploding every year...

Hundred's of Thousands of Radical Extremists? You've got to be joking..
At it's peak, Al-Qaeda's was estimated to have 250-400 loyal followers.

Even larger, well-organized, paramilitary Islamic Extremist Fronts like Hezbollah have at most a few thousand soldiers/dedicated supporters.
There would in the world maybe ten's of thousands of dedicated, militant, Islamic Radicals at the most... NO WHERE NEAR hundred's of thousands..

There is no one, single, united "Islamofacist" Army ready to lay siege to Western Cities as your paranoid, and warped media/government will have you believe.

When the Defecation hits the Oscillation.

[–] opaz 16 years ago

The actual number of muslims is always shrinking because of enlightnment, but the number of cultural muslims is growing, because of overbreeding. Praying five times a day takes along time, most muslims dont have time to care about enviornmental issues. Japan, China, Europe, America all practice population control and are close to achieve the goal of about one child per family, because that is the only way to prevent disaster. Muslims does the opposite. Up to ten children per familiy is not uncommon for a muslim.

I´m genuinly worried about what will happen to the muslim world, its very possible that a new terrible HIV epidemic or other disease will emerge to stop their overpopulation of the earth.

[–] QMan000 16 years ago

Opaz you are a retard.

"Shut Up Brian, I'm Sleuthing"

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Sometimes in overcrowded conditions where there is little healthcare or knowledge of such, you do see diseases that you thought were wiped out will make an appearance like polio, whooping cough, measles and HIV which know has different strains depending on what continent you are on.

[–] tanster-1 15 years ago

Opaz you are a retard.

-QMan000
Yeah, and to make it worse, he chose to be.

[–] radha1010 16 years ago

I don't want to get abused so please don't take this as condeming or condoning anything- but having briefly studied the Koran as part of religous studies at Uni(I'm not religous, just interested) I will say that whilst Christianity and Judaism promote patriarchy and imply that women are men's possessions, the Koran is the only religous texts which provides 'guidelines' for women's subjucation.

For example: there is an passage which translated to English says something along the lines of- if a woman is cooking her husbands dinnner and he has sexual needs she must tend to him immediately, even if the house burns down.
There are also passages which suggest that God comdones the physical punishment of the wife if she disobeys her husband.

Also, speaking as someone who is originally N. Irish-careful about firstly calling the IRA a religous group and secondly as 'good'. and that comes from someone raised as a Catholic.

[–] bertrambunter 16 years ago

radha = what does it matter if they abuse you - sticks and stones, you know, and muslims habitually speak and think of infidels in abusive terms, as they consider them a lower form of life than muslims fit only for subjugation, forced conversion or taxation to destitution. Converts are also taxed more heavily then 'true' muslims. It is a very discriminatory cult, regardless of their protests.

[–] stormyweathers-1 16 years ago

I don't trust any religion that makes women dress like ninjas.

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[–] StrontiumAE 16 years ago

xxx2. 'Copy and paste' academics are boring and usually fail exams coz they are incapable of creating an orignal thought, or a thought out argument that is their own.

stormyweathers-1, I dont trust anyone who thinks Sex and the City makes them want to strangle hookers

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[–] stormyweathers-1 16 years ago

You can trust me to tell the truth as i see it :)

Sex & the city makes me want to strangle hookers

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[–] armyofjason 16 years ago

how much violence is used in the bible? Cain "killed" Able, that doesn't make it right. The bible doesn't support murder, but killing as in war is different

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[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Nope he did not and he didn't take other peoples wives and property unlike some people we know of (lol)

[–] imiture 16 years ago

the christian crusades anyone....?

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

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are you a f..cking retard Rape women you think any religon teaches that let alone islam if you knew your facts islam was the first religon to give women rights even before judaism and christianity and i dont know where youve been getting your information but sir i am here to correct you!!!! ive never posted on here but i felt condemed to do so!!!!! and muslims are racist bigots? how does that make sense??? your generalising a billion people... islam teaches all men and women are born equal. my friend your are the racist bigot.

They started it first the crusades came too late to really do anything.
Women did have rights in certain cummunities with regards to property, inheritance and financial independence. In Islam women inherit less than men, have to have 4 male witnesses to prove they were raped, lose custody of their children after a certain year, cannot legally divorce unlike men who say I divorce you three times and it is done, and yet Islam proposes to be equal but yet it proves not to be, Muslim women are always walking around talking about Islam gave me my rights 1400 years ago, if so why do they lose their children, why do they inherit less, why is their word no better than a man's in a court of law.

[–] bertrambunter 16 years ago

Cut out the bad language - there's no need for it and it simply shows yor lack of education and vocabulary.

You say: Christian crusade anyone?? Well, since the holy land and the christians and jews living therein was conquered by muslims, and since everybody living in the ME is now muslim (with a few exceptions) I would say that the muslims started the Crusades, and also won them - so congratulations, and would you please quit whining and trying to use the word crusade as an excuse for killing christians and jews today. Thank you, your cooperation in this matter will be greatly appreciated.

[–] Psinex6 16 years ago

Wow, that is rather naive to state. In the Bible, there are the "Chosen Ones" that flee Egypt to the "Promised Land" of Israel. Reality seems to be that there were already people living in Israel before the chosen ones showed up. Imagine if you were living in a house and someone showed up on your doorstep and said, "I'm the Chosen One...this is house was promised to me by God."

When Joshua fought the battle of Jericho, and fire was raining down on the Philistines, courtesy of God, why did he take sides at all? Even the Philistines have women and children. Self-righteousness seems like a sin in itself.

My point is that murder is not justified by religious war. Self-defense as a nation certainly qualifies, such as World War 2 when oppressors were actually trying to take over the world. Initiating a war to capture oil and boost your economy with rebuilding contracts is a bit slimy. But even that makes much more sense than fighting over scripture that's centuries old. If the Middle East felt that the Iraq War was about religion, it'd be the Crusades Part 2 aka World War III.

This is why secularism is so important. If religion was allowed to govern countries with free reign, we'd be back in the Dark Ages, punishing adultery with death by stoning, public decapitation, and holy wars. Um...that sounds somewhat familiar. Even Christianity and Judaism was that barbaric not that long ago in historic terms.

[–] maddonabox 16 years ago

Islamic extremists? You mean like Mike Tyson?

[–] farterman 16 years ago

I see you watch "The West Wing".

[–] thorondun 16 years ago

I'll say this:
If the fanatic elements of Islam are correct...if, indeed, they are true, good Muslims and the moderates are not in any way whatsoever...then extreme Islam is the real Islam. If that is the case, Islam is evil and should be destroyed.
But y'know what? I don't believe that. I think the fundamentalists are full of it. They are the apostates; they are the kuffar. They are barbarians and savages, and deserve to die.
Why not let them practice their way as long as they keep it to themselves, you ask? Impossible. Their literal interpretation of the Koran will not and cannot allow them to sit by while there is a single non-Muslim alive. It's practically a natural instinct for them to kill "infidels." And if these zealots feel divinely compelled to live by the sword, then let the rest of humanity oblige them with their death by it. We should round them all up and shoot them.

"Hell is only a word. The reality is much, much worse."

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

I agree it's like if your religion has been hijacked by the radicals then take it back or are they telling the truth and practising the real religion. They are so quick to hollar Islam is a religion of peace but tell that to people who are forced to convert or die.

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[–] bertrambunter 16 years ago

The Klan's power at least in membership numbers peaked in the 20s, and was never as feared or perceived as much of a threat as radical islam is nowadays. Its sphere of operations and influence was also strictly confined to parts of the southern states of the US.

There is no equivalent of fanatical wahabism anywhere in the world today - it stands alone as an example of what can happen to minds which are poisoned by vicious mindless hatred. It is also a world wide movement - there is virtually no country on earth that is a muslim free zone today. They want infidels off of all muslim soil, which gives us the right to want all muslims out of the west. I think that is a fair exchange, don't you??

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Yeah I think that is fair if we leave they should have to leave our lands especially those that are so unhappy here amongst us infidels. I will be glad when we find a new energy source. Kissing ass for Oil is getting old.

[–] thorondun 16 years ago

That won't be enough for them. They want all soil to be Muslim.
Death to Wahhabis!

"Hell is only a word. The reality is much, much worse."

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Well thorondun "wanting ain't getting" so they can go straight to hell. I think america has put up with enough of foreigners coming here and trying to remake it in the image of their homelands well you know what stay at home and you don't have to change america!

[–] thorondun 16 years ago

Yep. Let's nab all the naturalized Muslims bad-mouthing the very nation they live in and kick 'em out; all the ones who cheered on 9/11 and smile at news of American casualties. The grateful and respectful ones can stay.
America: love it or leave it!

"Hell is only a word. The reality is much, much worse."

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Not all of them are bad but the ones who won't learn english, won't learn the laws, won't learn the proper social skills and talk about how america should accomodate them (this ain't no motel 6) they should really decide if living here is right for them and their families.

[–] Devil_Incarnate 16 years ago

"All religion is idiotic."

For someone to say that, they must have studied about all the religions on the world, past and present!
But we all know they didn't...so how can they claim that ALL religion is idiotic?

"If I Was To Let...You Suck My Tongue...Would You Be Grateful?!?" Castor Troy, Face/Off!

[–] bertrambunter 16 years ago

Exactly - that is the beauty of America - you can come here and practise your religion - it is your right, but only so long as you don't interfere with the next guy. Now the muslims seem to have caught on to the idea of freedom to practice their religion, but the bit about not bothering others doesn't seem to have gotten through. They have grabbed the notion of freedom of speech and run with it - they obviously feel free to deny publicly and vociferously the basic tenet of christianity - anyone seen them holding up their placards stating "Jesus Christ is NOT the son of God, he is a prophet of Islam"? They are however, unwilling to allow anyone else freedom of speech, and are in fact, preparing a worldwide campaign (according to a recent Yahoo report) of suing and ruining any institution or individual who is in any way critical of any aspect of islam, or who is less than utterly respectful to islam, all the while continuing their riots and demos against the infidel.

Admittedly, the radical islamics are less obnoxious and in your face in the US than in the EU, where they have almost taken over, but that is only because they know most Americans are armed and likely to become pretty PO'd in the event they push things here the way they do in Europe.

Live and let live, it's the Americna way - but not for muslims, apparently.

[–] clynningram 16 years ago

Yeah bertam they may have taken over europe but they will find the americans are not such pushovers. I do no like the way they are trying to hijack christian saints and prophets by claiming they are or were muslim when jews and christians had history and civilizations hundreds of years before islam was even invented. They do seem to have a habit of blaming everybody else for their problems.

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[–] SEVEREcritic 15 years ago

i agree there. i have lived in a Muslim country for 21 years (am myself agnostic)and i can tell you straight off that though not everyone is a fundamentalist, there are PLENTY of people who are leaning that way. it's the result of poverty and lack of education. you can try and find whatever correlation you want, but fact remains that Islamic countries are mostly poor. the fanatics prey on people's ignorance and gullibility. if you lived here you'd VERY CLEARLY see the difference. look at people from good, non-religious schools based on international curriculum and you'll see very "normal" open minded people. you look at people from village madrasahs and you see people with some very messed up ideals. and those ideals find their way into unwary minds. JUST today my cousin asked, as i was watching "miami ink" on discovery, "i'd really like to get one...but i heard that...it's not allowed - as in Islamically?"
my reply "well then so is the henna drawing on the back of your hand, and so is the fact that you're wearing a tshirt and jeans and not a burka and so is the fact that you haven't prayed today and so is a lot of things if you believe all that...plus i dont think there WERE tattoos in Arabia back then so i don't think you'll find any such restriction..."
anyway, to answer your statement. i'd heard of this on girl from here with a green card who refused to go to high-school in the States because she saw a guy and a girl making out. she had tolerated the fact that she had to sit in the same room with guys, but this was really too much! and what did the eeeviiiil american lawyers do? they said "go to school or go home" and though that raised a lot of commotion here amongst some folks, i agreed with those lawyers whole heartedly. same goes for those taxi drivers. i'd fire them on the spot if they refused a fare cos s/he was carrying alcohol.
laziest guy on God's good earth? ME!

[–] mats_king 16 years ago

I suppose you are a native american then?

America is a country built by immigrants if you remember history from junior high

[–] mats_king 16 years ago

They want infidels off of all muslim soil

They - as in the ones that fills minds with poisoned hatred

which gives us the right to want all muslims out of the west. I think that is a fair exchange, don't you??

Who`s "us"? Are you then by comparison an extremist christian?

[–] jkholman 13 years ago

"...strictly confined to parts of the southern states of the US..."

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bertrambunter,
Indiana had a larger KKK membership than most [if not all]
Southern states in that about which you write (1920's). My stepfather's older siblings were members in their younger adult years (1940's ,50's and into the
late 1960's - just before my mother [who is Mexican] and my three older siblings and I entered the picture). My step aunt regaled us with stories of hooded clansmen and clanswomen parading in downtown Portsmouth, VA. What a spectacle it must have been. Now I find it incredible that people would allow themselves to be swayed in such a manner. I also find it hard to believe because my step uncles and aunts treated me and my siblings very well. I did not learn of the Klan memberships until years later.

bertrambunter, I am not jumping on your program, but if you are like me I figured you would want to know better.

take care,

JKHolman