Half this movie is...


a soundtrack, the other half is *beep* all or to be more specific depicting facial expressions, speed boats or the rear end of a ferrari for long periods of time.

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"Half this movie is a soundtrack".

Yeah, that´s the great thing about it. Most movies come with wallops of blather even though noone has anything to say that´s worth listening.



"facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

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The soundtrack was an integral part of the movie. Many key scenes had relevant tracks. When Ferral was dancing with Gong Li the track made it enjoyable to watch. Even the speedboat scene had a great track with Moby.

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The speedboat scene was alright, but NOT the comment that Cuba doesn't accept US passports, which is clearly wrong. The US doesn't want citizens going there, but Cuba generally stamps the arrival card for US citizens.

I'm sorry the Coen brothers don't direct the porn I watch. They're hard to get ahold of, okay?

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Half this movie is a soundtrack.


That was the entire concept that the TV series (and this film) was based on.

Since you don't know, thought I'd educate you.

10-to-1 says you're under the age of 20.

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I do not believe age is a factor here I am 21 and did not grow up watching the show but I have seen a few episodes and I must say the show sucks just like starsky and hutch, dukes of hazard, and the A team did but the only difference is they were all remade with somewhat funny movies while this was an attempt at a serious movie with a lot of flashy crap and unbearable dialog this is like a two hour episode of the mind numbing show CSI:Miami.

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So with your bad attitude, why watch anything.

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You trash this but found Dukes of Hazzard funny? Well I guess you're right about everything then aren't you.

Style and music was more than half of what the show was about. If you thought the show was stupid, obviously it's going to translate to the movie. Most of the people that hated it had never seen more than one episode (if any) of the show. I liked the movie, it was entertaining and had a lot of cool shots.

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Yikes! I didn't trash it. Miami Vice is one of my most favorite movies.

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Yes, I realized that but only after I flared back. Thanks.

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What is your take on why so many people were so angry at the film?

I had rented it, before I bought it -- and at the rental shop several men started in on over-the-top rants against the film. They said I wouldn't like it: I said I saw it when it first was in theaters, I loved it. Then they really lost it. They said they hated all three of the leads, and really got ugly about Gong Li. I finally said, 'Well I'm renting it anyway, goodbye!' One of the men followed me out of the shop for two blocks trying to tell me the movie was trash. It seems to set off obsessiveness . . .

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Not at all. :-) In my field, cog psych, we always tell too much.

The realism is what I liked about Vice. Even the race, which I hear was added after the rough cut, signaled ambiguity -- how/why that they lost was walked away from. I remember my reaction: ooooohhh good, they aren't trying to portray these super guys as perfect, this film might work. Too many films seem unable to find the right mix of unexplained and clearly defined. One odd thing: The DVD seems to have dampened the sound level of the race -- turning it up for that scene puts me in the boat. Then, as you said, they just jumped into their next messy experience . . .

One of those rants was that the relationships were not clear, and I thought: whenever are relationships clear? When ambiguity set in, each character made their own decision, based on trust even though they were not fully trusting, but they decided to believe in their history with the person. I saw that as a challenge: how many of us really decide, and how many of us decide rationally?

I think Vice was psychologically complex. In Heat, the action-fueled fans could simply ignore the psychological tensions. Mann didn't let anyone get away in Vice.

But most of all I liked how the visual, music, relationships, responsibilities and threat/tensions were woven together. I've tried to figure out how Mann can keep all of those threads active and organized. I saw the tangled relationship/responsibility issues in Heat, and visuals in Collateral . . . Vice got the full treatment.

See? Now too much on my side!

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You sure did bring a lot of baggage into your viewings of this movie, didn't ya? I bet something that happened at your Prom totally explains why the film's cinematography is so amateurish, with crooked horizon lines and lighting levels so low they shouldn't have commenced filming the scene without bringing in a few more lights.

By the way, saying something flawed in a movie "is just like real life" is the biggest effing COPOUT in the history of defending a work of art or entertainment. That's why movies don't devote half their running times to characters eating, sh!ting, and sleeping.

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You seem to be having a really bad day. Projecting and all that.

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Right. Dukes of Hazzard was a funnier show than a movie. The bad cops made the show funny but not the movie. Burt Reynolds seemed half asleep.

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I randomly came across this board...love this comment and will probably use it for the rest of my life. (Too many people I know have this problem, especially with classic material (not that Miami Vice(2006) is classic))

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It takes a lot for me to not like a movie but this was a boring all over the place mess.

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You have seen the original TV show haven't you?

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Yeah, got to love those films that have no form of soundtrack, and contain no facial expressions. Very quiet people with no faces: That's all I need from cinema.

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