The Colier Family - wtf?! - Supernanny (2005) Discussion

[–] SweeneyLovesLovett 14 years ago

I was just about to posts this! lol. What is it exactly Madison does? Lies about homework? okay...lots of teens do that, so what? I want to punch him in the face.
And I hate how he agrees with everything Jo says, then doesn't even follow it.

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[–] judywasapunk 14 years ago

I thought that too! He keeps saying she lies, but I haven't heard what about? What teen doesn't lie?

I think I heard the wife utter all of two sentences in the entire episode. This has to be the weirdest family to ever be on this show.

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[–] MusicAddict05 14 years ago

Seriously, she's a pathological liar because she says she did her homework when she didn't? Guess all teenagers are pathological liars now..who knew.

It was heartbreaking when she had to ask him to say hi, hug her, and ask how her day was when he gets home from work. Did it really need to be spelled out for him that he needs to treat his daughter like a human being?

Guy needs a major reality check...or a good punch to the head.

I graduated with Jimmy Fallon. Be jealous.

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[–] rmoore66-1 14 years ago

Wow! There is some serious pathology going on in this family. Poor Jo. She was over her head on this one. She is great with raising kids, but as she herself said, this family has some work to do. I really doubt this marriage can be saved, and Mom should cut her loses. The judge would probably give her the kids anyway.

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[–] harlowfan 14 years ago

This guy is a total d-bag! The daughter acts more emotionally mature than he does! I have never seen a grown man act so passive aggressive in my life. And what's up with the wife? She just lets him treat her daughter that way???

My stepdad acted like I was invisible also. He wouldn't even ask me to pass the salt. He would have my mom ask me to hand it over to him. LOL! Yeah. It was bad. Looking back I can't believe I lived so uncomfortably for that many years. (About five. Met my mom when I was 13, I loved out at 18.. two months after graduation. Didn't take long. lol)

He would say, "The genius has to study" (taking a jab at my poor grades). I got straight-As up until my mom met him. I think after we moved across the country, I was just shell-shocked. New environment and a stepdad who didn't welcome me in his home. It's a tough adjustment to go from being welcome in your own home to being only 50% welcomed. Looking back I was clearly depressed. And it reflected in my grades. Looking back there is a whole host of things that my depression were being acted out through. It's so obvious looking back. My stepdad would also occasionally call me "bitch" and say "I wouldn't care if you lived at the mission." (I don't remember why he said that, or what the situation was, but I've always remembered. I'd say a guy has to have a lot of hate for his stepdaughter to not care if she's on the street.)

And mom let it happen. I would have never imagined she'd be the kind of mom who'd let that take place, but she was. She always says "You had attitude also. You're both equally stubborn."

lol I guess it doesn't matter I was a kid and he was the adult. There was even a point where I began making little gestures like bringing my field trip permission slips to him to sign instead of my mom, and even asked if I could have his last name one time.... he pushed me away.

Mom sees what she wants to see.
To this day, she won't apologize. She's written big, long emotional e-mails about her regret, but she won't say the word "sorry." I've made it very clear to her that I need to hear that word. Her excuse is that it "wouldn't make any difference." (If it wouldn't make any difference, why doesn't she just say it? lol)

I forgive her, for myself and my own sanity. But there isn't any closeness. We're cordial. But I don't fill her in on what's going on in my life, unless she asks. And even then, I try to keep it to the very basics. I don't go in depth at all. If I can, I just try to keep it to what happened on TMZ yesterday, or stir the conversation back to insipid things or celebrities. lol That feels much better to me, because I'm incapable of phoniness. I wouldn't be able to stomach attempting heart-to-hearts when I know she - for some strange reason - refuses to give me the one thing that would make me feel better.

Madison will get through it. I hope she doesn't have the problems I have had trusting men though.

I'm not sure how suitable this family was for Supernanny. I didn't notice where the kids were wildly out of control. It was a bad marriage issue. A bad father/daughter relationship issue. A too-passive mom issue. I didn't feel at the end of the show that a lot was resolved. Having lived with a bad stepfather, I don't see this guy changing his colors anytime soon. That passive-aggressive stuff is going to eek right back in.

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[–] ElevenSeventeen 14 years ago

My heart broke for poor Madison. I pray she grows up to see how worthy and beautiful she is. That is such a crucial age for fatherly affection and affirmation. I think the dad does not know anything about what teenage girls need. And he seems to have some resentment for females deep within. Sure was sickening to see how he treats (and cripples) his boys as well...

That episode made me sad and left a bad taste in my mouth.

One question, though. Is marriage counseling ever suggested by Jo to a couple? Cause boy if a family ever needed it, it was this one. I pray they are willing to get help. Those children need better and I believe if you are going to take the vows and make the babies, you'd better be ready and willing to fight to be there as a family unit for them.

Praying for them.

"He love me, he love me love me love me." ~ Madame Carlotta

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[–] rmoore66-1 14 years ago

A couple of questions I have that might be relevant. What happened to Madison's biological dad? The fact that this new husband actually adopted her suggests that her father had either died or had his parental rights terminated or he voluntarily gave them up. Either of those things suggests some serious trauma in her early life that may contribute to her situation today. I would think those need to be addressed. See seems pretty close to being an OK kid with a little help. The other question is why this new dad went to the effort and expense of actually adopting her if he cares so little for her. I really do think there is a back story to these people that is contributing to the overall problems they are having. They either need to address these problems in a serious way or mom needs to speak with a lawyer sooner rather than later both for her sake and the sake of her children. But as you say, it is amazing what a woman will put up with to be with a man, any man. Some moms will literally throw her children under the bus in order to have a man around. That is really sick.

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[–] darleneshadow 14 years ago

HOW CLUELESS IS EVERYONE!!!??? THIS STEPDAD HAS PEDOPHILE WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM!!! THAT MOTHER NEEDS TO TAKE HER KIDS AND DISAPPEAR!!!! SURE HE HATES THE DAUHTER AND DOESN'T SLEEP WITH THE MOTHER AND WANTS TO WIPE THE BOYS BOTTOMS!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!! THIS CREEPY STEPDAD SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS!!!!!

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[–] nuttytoknow 14 years ago

Harlow, so sorry that happened to you! Sounds like the guy was a real jerk, and shame on your mom for allowing that to happen!

Ouch: First word spoken by children with older siblings.

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[–] harlowfan 14 years ago

Harlow, so sorry that happened to you! Sounds like the guy was a real jerk, and shame on your mom for allowing that to happen!

Thanks, I appreciate that. My stepdad is a piece of work.

It's odd, because his parents were great. When they were alive, his dad really liked me a lot. I only met him a couple times before he died, but he was a very nice man. His mother was wonderful too.
Before we went to meet his parents for the first time, he talked about what a jerk his dad was. (WHATEVER!!! lol)

I think it just goes to show that for some weird reason he is just very emotionally closed off and odd. I don't know what caused that. When he married my mom he said, "I'm marrying you, not them." (Meaning my family.)

Nice, huh? ;-)

I think my mom has changed being with him, and not for the better. I think about how she was before they met... life was looking up for her. She had a tight group of friends she met at work, she was losing weight, had a social life, was happy.

I can't imagine she is actually happier now than she was before they met. There is no way. She's always decorating the house and the yard, which is odd because they really don't have any friends to invite over. lol

Part of me wants to rescue her, but... I don't know.
I just need to move on with my own life.

(I'm in my late '20s and only recognized recently I've been sort of emotionally stuck in my teens.)

I'm in the beginning stages of planning a move for next year across the country... back to where the rest of my family live.

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[–] rmoore66-1 14 years ago

You know that is a very interesting take on this. I really had not seen the possibility that he might be a pedophile. I wonder if anyone from Georgia Child Protective Services saw this episode. Looks like they might make it their business to "become involved" with this family.

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[–] harlowfan 14 years ago

HOW CLUELESS IS EVERYONE!!!??? THIS STEPDAD HAS PEDOPHILE WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM!!! THAT MOTHER NEEDS TO TAKE HER KIDS AND DISAPPEAR!!!! SURE HE HATES THE DAUHTER AND DOESN'T SLEEP WITH THE MOTHER AND WANTS TO WIPE THE BOYS BOTTOMS!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP!! THIS CREEPY STEPDAD SHOULD BE BEHIND BARS!!!!!

You could have a point. There is something very off about him.
He seems to strongly dislike both females in his house, but is very cuddly and touchy-feely with his boys.

I might be playing psychologist here, but I think maybe his strong dislike for his daughter has to do with his strong dislike for his wife. He is a part of her. So, the aggression he shows toward Madison might actually be subconscious anger toward his wife. The reasons he gives for his issues with Madison seem like fronts to me. Madison didn't seem like an out-of-control compulsive liar to me.

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[–] MarisCrane 8 years ago

That guy was a complete waste. He's probably mad because he got sloppy seconds with a woman who has her own child from a previous marriage, and is now trying to create his own new family with her by having boys and pushing the poor stepdaughter out of the picture. He has a total Henry VIII complex - boys and men are superior and girls and women are worthless.

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[–] freebird1987 7 years ago

That dad was such a jerk.

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