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Jay-Z dont write down the song?


That's pretty ill, considering the material that he's been putting out.

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well biggie did it, jay does do it but for the black album he said he did write in an interview with xxl magazine,
rappers freestyle so that is rhyming without words

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his "freestyle" is similar to person that wrties.

it simple. he thinks of the ryhme all day long...I MEAN ALL DAY LONG. the way you thihnk about work, school, taxes, bills etc....thats the way he thinks of his bars.

bar by bar he builds a song, and over time he's got 16 he can work with and craft around a beat. mainly he just keeps them filed away.

in the movie you see him do his rainman thing. thast him remembering his bars and putting them together for the beat.

it takes lots of practive, but if you do it often enough...you can do it...

oh and he planned to write it down but he chose not to. he wanted it to be organic...no writtens, no preconcieved beats, just fresh...

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Thats not even close to what the man does. As a music producer i understand the effects of being a rap artist. You could be the next Jay-Z if you do any of the following.

1: Hear a beat and start freestyling instantly.

2: Bang out a whole song (A platinum Single) in 30 min or less.

3: Spit, but make sure everyone understands what your talking about.

4: Speak with a clear voice always.

5: Bang out a whole album (A Platinum Hit) in under3 hrs.

6: Hit every genre available to your type of style.

7: Listen to beats all day, all night (nothing else).

8: E.T.C

There is noone on this earth that has that kind of time to try and remember every lyric that comes off the top of their head. What happens to the verse that he did'nt like? Jay-Z spits what he knows and nothing else. He don't spit fiction like writers can do. When it's off the head, it's raw emotion and soul. Regardless if the man does not write, the 8 track recorder works great If you screw up on the lyrics or didnt like how you said it. It's called OVER-DUBBING. So you got an 8-track recorder and some booth time, you go in and spit a few bars and stop. On the playback, you figure that it's all good and you want to continue from where you left off. Now the verse starts at 2-3 bars before you stopped and what comes next? A new half of a verse. Put the freestyle together to create a verse. Copy the same routine for the next verse and so on. It's that simple, much simpler than trying to remember everything you say daily. It just cant be done, the human brain isn't made for that kind of work.

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When he's doin 99 problems, it looks like hes reading from a music stand in front of him.


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lol an 8 track recorder.. wtf rinky dink studio are you recording in

but then again, i'm not so sure, lol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msmDSxv5eO0

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from what I understand, jay does his tracks in one or two takes, that's it.

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Rappers in history that didn't have to write down their rhymes:

Biz Markie (when Kane, Kool G Rap or Masta Ace didn't write them for him)
Greg Nice (freestyled every verse)
Notorious B.I.G. (taught Jay Z how to do it)
Melachi The Nutcracker (he freestyled ever verse...he was wack though)
Ol' Dirty Bastard (he would make the whole song, overdubs/hooks and all in his head and then tell the producer what to do, he also would produce and engineer his own tracks according to RZA and Pharrell from The Neptunes)
Supernatural
King Sun (he could do both, though)
Common
J Ro (Alkoholiks)

A lot of times, former drug dealers got in the habit of never writing things down because it could be used as evidence against them (a la West Indian Archie from Malcolm X) so they just memorized it all. That's how Big started doing it and he taught Jay how to do it. Few people know that Common does it as well. Jin can freestyle but he still writes his rhymes in the studio. One.


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@ Poisonousdart75.

Biggie didn't teach Jay how to do it. As told by Clark Kent the producer of Brooklyn Finest (on Reasonable Doubt)on VH1's Rise and Rise of Jay-Z, Jay gave Big a note pad to write down the words for the song. Big asked Jay what he was suposed to do with it. Then they learned that the both of them rhymed straight from the top off there heads.
So Jay already 'mastered' the skills before he an Big did the song and ended up being best friends.

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Jay and Biggie knew each other way before they recorded Brooklyn's Finest.

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