We should have heard the tape in the film

I agree.

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"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED??!!"

Maximus Decimus Meridius

No, we shouldn't. I have curiosity too but It is morbid

An interview where he adress the tapes:

Looming over the film is not only the horror of Treadwell’s demise but also an audio recording of the tragedy, taped inadvertently by the video camera in Treadwell’s tent. Herzog tastefully omits it from the film, but he makes the viewer aware of its existence.

“The question of the tape which recorded Timothy Treadwell’s death and Amie Huguenard’s death is something that I had to address,” Herzog says. “So I listened to it, and that’s the only time I appear in the film. You only see me from behind, listening to it with earphones. The interesting thing is that Jewel Palovak who was working with Treadwell and living with Treadwell for 20 years tries to read my face, and it’s very, very intense and moving for her. The moment I heard the tape it was instantly clear: Only over my dead body is this tape going to end up in the movie. I’m not into doing a snuff film, and I have to respect the dignity and privacy of two individuals’ deaths.”

In the film, Herzog encourages Palovak to destroy the tape. “Yes, but that was stupid,” Herzog says now. “Silly advice born out of the immediate shock of hearing—I mean, it’s the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life. Being shocked like that, I told her, ‘You should never listen to it, and you should rather destroy it. It should not be sitting on your shelf in your living room all the time.’ [But] she slept over it and decided to do something much wiser. She did not destroy it but separated herself from the tape, and she put it in a bank vault.”

In the cool light of day, Herzog cannot bear the thought of destroying a recording that evokes a response from its audience. But playing the recording is another matter. Grizzly Man—and nearly all of the films Herzog has made over the last four decades—show where his interests lie: not in the horrifying acts themselves, which rarely appear, but in the knowledge that they happen; not in the bolt of lightning that strikes at our hearts, but in the slow rumble buried within dark clouds.

I think that it would have helped drive home the point of what the consequences of Treadwell's hubris were for him and his girlfriend. It all seems noble and romantic to live out in the wild and interact with grizzly bears, forsaking the fickle, materialistic environment of modern society. But when it comes down to it, bears are dangerous, massive creatures evolved to overpower anything they perceive as a threat or easy meal. Hearing the tape would ensure that no one, and the especially younger idealists out to follow in his footsteps, who watched this would ever forget the consequences of taking nature lightly.

"Tahiti is not in Europe . . . I'm going to be SICK."

Your pleas for the inclusion of the tape are a sign of our ridiculously over-saturated culture. Have some decency. These are peoples' lives. Did you not get the gist from the coroner's explanation or the first people on the scene? Herzog is a filmmaker with class and restraint. He's not out to exploit or shock just for the sake of it.

I agree with Herzog's decision for the sake of the documentary, however, I would be interested to hear such a disturbing and tragic tape were it ever presented.

Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls008200422/

You know, if it interests you all so much, why listen to the tape - just google about the attack and look at pictures...

or read some of the descriptions here - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1443788/Final-cries-of-couple-killed-by-bear.html

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It would be exploitative to include the tape in the film, as it reduces the deaths of others to entertainment. There's nothing to be gained from putting it in there.

Of course there's a base, sick desire to hear it, but I won't. John Glenn and Anthony Hopkins listened to authentic tapes in evidence of serial killers torturing and murdering some victims in preparation for The Silence of the Lambs, and said they never got the sounds out of their heads.

Pass! My head's f#cked up enough as it is, thank you!

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