Does this movie actually debunk anything from the real movie?

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I haven't seen it, because I know it is just conservo-nazi propaganda and therefore I don't wish to give them any money just to see it.

Fantastic! This absolutely guarantees that you'll never have deal with any of those pesky counter-arguments. Absolutism is so much easier if you never even listen to the other side!

Y'all can go to hell. . .I'm goin' to Texas

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Don't know why you're asking, considering you seem unlikely to even consider an opposing view.

The first half of this film is fairly compelling. It provides many opposing views to Moore's film. Not only to the news article forged by Moore (which is dealt with for all of two minutes", but to the connections Moore makes between Bush and the Bin Laden family, his really agenda in Afganistan, and other such issues.

You get the opposing view to Moore's film.

But much of the film is simply interviews with soldiers, and family members of soldiers. Much of this is interesting, but pretty inflammatory. Just a bunch of people complaining about Moore, but also praising the men and women serving in the military.

Many of the points are valid (such as saying that Clinton is responsible for 9/11 at least as much as Bush, and that Bush's connection to Bin Laden's family isn't as real as Moore want's everyone to believe). But the movie isn't as well made as Fahreheit 9/11, nor is the overall film as compelling or moving.

And Ann Coulter make it hard to believe anything said in this film. But I try to judge what's said, not who says it.

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"I haven't seen it, because I know it is just conservo-nazi propaganda and therefore I don't wish to give them any money just to see it."

You're the classic example of the conspiracy mindset: I'm right and anything that challenges my point of view is just propoganda.

"I would imagine that it would be impossible since Moore's film has actual proof via actual film footage"

Hey genius, ever hear of editing or stock footage? Ever seen a movie that has scenes from another movie in it (like Raptor, which has scenes from the Carnosaur Trillogy in it)? It's not that hard to manipulate your so called "proof via actual film footage".

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It does...it totally debunks everything Moore's film says...of course, that's assuming you do with this film exactly what they tell you NOT to do with Moore's film and take everything that's said as 100% truth.

If you're looking for one documentry film maker to give you all the answers from both sides of the argument, you're never going to find one. I wacthed both...then went out and did some research myself and formed my own conclusions.

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by Mel_Diablo » Fri Apr 28 2006 07:58:54
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Post Edited: Fri Apr 28 2006 07:59:34
I haven't seen it, because I know it is just conservo-nazi propaganda and therefore I don't wish to give them any money just to see it. I also don't wish to rent it for the same reason. Although renting it would be giving them less money, it is still too much to give them. So, I was just wondering if anyone here could tell me if this film actually proves anything from Fahrneheit 9/11 to be a lie.

I would imagine that it would be impossible since Moore's film has actual proof via actual film footage (lots of time) of the people in question (namely George W. Bush) saying these things. I mean how can you debunk actual physical evidence?

Many times over. You can call it whatever you like, but if you don't see it for yourself, you'll never know.

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