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Lives effected by Eve's changes?

posted 11 years ago by clarity4831
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This movie has been one of my favorites for the last couple of years (I think Scott is adorable) but one thing that has ALWAYS bothered me is the fact that Eve gets to completely change 8 years of her life...and we're supposed to believe her changes didn't change anyone else's lives? Take Scott - are we really supposed to believe that he never found someone else and got married in 8 years? And if he did....yes, Eve's 2nd chance is all rosy for *her* but mad sucks for Scott's wife. What about Mandy & Brian? While it's apparent that Mandy has bad luck with guys...who's to say that Brian wouldn't have found happiness with someone else? Everyone else may not have WANTED those 8 years altered. I realize we're just supposed to take this movie at face value and not think about the other characters' "back stories"...but it's still always bothered me.

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[–] Rpdsf 9 years ago

Okay I get it. In a fantasy movie such as this, the writers rely on you to suspend all belief and just sit back and enjoy while accepting the unbelievable. I tried to do that but a few things still bothered me. This character was completely happy in her life but unlikeable from the very beginning. It wasn't until her married boss, with whom she was having an affair, cancelled their "Romantic holiday getaway" because he has to spend time with his wife that she begins to get upset. She then admits to her friend that she's the one in the office that all the wives hate and she's the other woman. Later in the conversation, her friend reminds her that she was supposed to get married on christmas and she responds by saying "Bah humbug". Her friend then suggests to her that she go see her parents whom she hasn't seen in 8 years and she says that since she hasn't seen them for so long she wasn't going to see them now. It's very difficult to have any sympathy for this person. Sitting at home and unhappy about being alone for Christmas, she calls her ex fiancé and a woman answers. She then makes a wish to go back and make things turnout differently. When she gets her wish and realizes that it's now only a week before the wedding she walked out on 8 years ago she then wants to go back to her former life 8 years in the future.

So I have to agree with the comment made by "clarity4831" which was ".....one thing that has ALWAYS bothered me is the fact that Eve gets to completely change 8 years of her life...and we're supposed to believe her changes didn't change anyone else's lives? Take Scott - are we really supposed to believe that he never found someone else and got married in 8 years? And if he did....yes, Eve's 2nd chance is all rosy for *her* but that sucks for Scott's wife. What about Mandy & Brian? While it's apparent that Mandy has bad luck with guys...who's to say that Brian wouldn't have found happiness with someone else? Everyone else may not have WANTED those 8 years altered. I realize we're just supposed to take this movie at face value and not think about the other characters' "back stories"...but it's still always bothered me."

She was a totally selfish and self centered person and we as the audience are supposed to be happy for her that she got a happy ending possibly to the detriment of others?

What terrible writing for a movie that had possibilities as something very entertaining.

[–] maypole27 9 years ago

I had been thinking of that, too. When I saw it again, though, two things jumped out at me that hadn't before.

1) When Eve calls Scott and a woman answers, it seems very clear that it's his wife or at least girlfriend. So, he's moved on with someone else, reinforcing that Eve has missed her chance. What caught my attention this time is that as soon as Eve asks for Scott (using his full name and not sounding particularly seductive or threatening), the woman responds immediately with, "Who is this?" She sounded rather suspicious, shrewish. On the extension, Scott sounds very polite, but confused. This gives me the impression that while Scott had found someone else, she may not have been a very nice someone else. At the very least, maybe they just weren't meant to be together.

2) When Eve pushes Mandy to finally talk to Brian, he seems very pleased. It would appear that shyness had kept the two of them apart up to that point, since Brian had clearly noticed Mandy before, but not made a move to talk to her. I can believe a scenario similar to the first. Brian may not have had the nerve to approach someone and still have been alone for those 8 years.

And while I had a hard time finding Eve likable for most of the movie, I do see a positive in that she stayed loyal to her best friend from high school, and took care of her.

I would like to think that more than the whole thing being about Eve getting a second chance, it was more about righting the wrong that she had caused all those years ago. By making the "right" choice this time, everyone and everything was where they were supposed to be.

This is, of course, all justification so I can just watch the movie. It would make an interesting sequel, though: Brian's would-be wife is approached by Angel James who gives her chance to meet someone new since she was shafted by Eve's new life.

[–] forsaken2003 9 years ago

I couldn't even finish the movie because of this. The description on TV never gave any indication that she was altering the past. It made it seem like she was just going home after several years of being away. I only wanted to watch because of Sebastian Spence but the concept made me upset for him because he had a lift without the lead. Maybe that's what was supposed to happen.

Its understandable Spike is strong and mysterious and sort of compact but well muscled
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