Hidden agenda of the film...

Actually the bigest thing that inspires fear in me is what comes out of the mouth of religious fanatics themselves. Christians, and Jews only spend one day a week being brainwashed, so although wrong about believeing in the invisible man (AKA: god) they are mostly non-violent. But Muslims spend average of five times a day being fed the same crap, hence the brain washing is more effective. But listen to what the muslins in the UK, US, Europe, and the Middle East say that they want to do to non Muslims, they don't even try to deney that they want to kill all non believers. What the islamic world needs is separtation of church and state. What everyreligion needs is to stop filling their heads with beliefs that people who have been dead for thousands of years still control everything that they do. I think it should be mandatory for all civilised governments to put books like the Tora, Bible, and Koran in the fiction section where they belong. But in short, I would not be afraid of religious fanatics as much if they didn't go into the streets of London, and say that they wanted to overthrow the British Government, or go out in protest in New York and say that they wanted the schools in Muslim neighborhoods to adopt Sharia law.

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You should think for yourself instead of swallowing everything they tell you at university, as if your prof's don't have their own biases and agendas. More innocent people were murdered in the 20th century as a result of Communists taking over countries and enslaving their populations than by any other single ideology in human history. "Propaganda?" No. FACT.

Hello, deranged.

Just viewed the DVD tonight. I'm puzzled about why you think it is strange that any people in the developed nations have, at least, some low-level fear that Islamist terrorists wish/try/plan to do them harm. Have you forgotten Madrid? Have you forgtten London?

I plead with you to take note that I emphatically DID NOT write "Islamic" terrorists. There is a distinctly notable difference between a person's being Islamic and a person's being ISLAMIST.

It may be time to put your old notions (perhaps) born of the Cold War to bed and begin to recognize the more modern reality that quite a few folks, disenchanted with their lot in life, feeling no respect, often being brainwashed by "radical" imams, decide that sacrificing their lives for "the greater good" that they see, or possibly, just finding that being "cowboys" is way more fun than is actually trying to establish a responsible life, actually exist. If the modern world gets lucky, such people will only be able to do limited damage.

The other side of the coin is that the modern world needs to be vigilant 100% of the time to prevent potentially catastrophic damage. The Islamists only have to get lucky in just the one case to feel that they are "successful." As if a person in the modern world actually achieves "success' by killing poeple.

I am aware of no instance of Russia bombing America, and if you are being taught that at university, I suggest that you might want to question your lecturer regarding the historical record. As is much of the world, I AM aware of Islamist terrorists bombing both Madrid and London, not to mention Bali. And other places.

Which do you find more disturbing ... The idea that many people who do not choose to live in the reality of the modern world (thereby denying reality .. an interesting symptom, in and of itself) believe that their mission, in what remains of their lives is to a) castigate all women eveywhere for dressing "immodestly", and b) kill as many "infidels" as possible? Or is it the the fact that an American film company (HBO) made such a film, which you believe increases the "psychological" fear of terrorism "into the viewers?"

No, I do not live in fear that some Islamist terrorist will be the means to my end. I consider them idiots. I also recognize the sad fact that idiots of any stamp often find the means to harm others in very many ways. This makes them neither better than others nor "Right!!"

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I'm not sure that it has similarities to 50s US propaganda, as I have not studied them. But this film does seem to go out of its way to create fear. For instance, the amount of damage and radiation contamination caused by the dirty bomb is completely ridiculous. I quote from the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission from this link (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/dirty-bombs.html) "Most [Dirty Bombs] would not release enough radiation to kill people or cause severe illness - the conventional explosive itself would be more harmful to individuals than the radioactive material."

As a Christian Yemeni Arab living in the UK that grew up along-side these asshats, I'd say that the film is fairly accurate when comes to the total hatred these people feel for you, and I for that matter. It's not a matter of if but when for these tossers. They could easily obtain used centrifuges that are highly radioactive and utilize them in an attack. If it's not a stolen Russia MIRV or LYTNW,it will most certainly be a something along these lines. It's going to happen, nothing can stop it, it's our idea of civilization compared to theirs. And they hate ours... the western world that is.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<did anyone notice that this film - despite its tragic reality that an attack did occur in London - has a very spooky feel of the 1950's communist propaganda films that American made. I had to watch one for a university unit that i studied and the same themes were established but instead of Russia bombing America its now terrorists bombing London. Should we be worried that an American film company (HBO) sponsered this? Or should we be worried that these sorts of films are being made which increases the psychological fear of terrorism into the viewers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>


We should be afraid. In fact, if we were rational, we would be scared out of our damned minds. The message of this movie can hardly be repeated enough. The threat is very real. Cross your fingers and hope they do not gain access to ABC weapons.

No. It isn’t propaganda to portray an event that could very easily happen. Moslem extremists have been at war with the world( for some 30 years. People focus on the West because we are self-absorbed. But the reality is that Moslems are in conflicts in almost every region of the world. China, Russia, the US, Middle East, Africa, Europe, Philippines, etc.

People say that US foreign policy is a driver of this radical agenda, but this isn’t the whole truth. These extremists want control. They want control of their women, their land, and their religion. They, like the Nazis, will exploit any issue to advance their agenda. They really could not care less about Palestinians. For starters, a good percent of Palestinians are Christians. Secondly, Palestinians have been treated poorly by other Arabs for centuries. If these people truly cared about Palestinians why isn’t Jordan giving Palestinians a slice of their land? After all, part of historical Palestine can be found in Jordan.

Then there is the reaction of these extremists themselves. They apparently believe that they are the only ones to have suffered from injustice. Such is hardly the case. American Blacks and Natives have suffered far worse, yet I don’t see them launching terrorist attacks. Same for Latin Americans. The IRA kept their operations within their borders. They didn’t make their conflict with England a world wide war like Moslem extremists have.

In sum, there is far more to this issue than US malfeasance. There is something uniquely poisonous and violent about this Islamic extremist. This isn’t the idealism-driven Baader-Meinhof or Weather Underground nor is it the raw hatred of the KKK or Neo-Nazis. It is a suicidal gang bent on using whatever means necessary to achieve their goal. That they are lacking the power to do so is irrelevant. Killing infidels and heretical Moslems is enough.