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workers not too happy with this film


just this (its in spanish, sorry):
http://www.fabricasrecuperadas.org.ar/article.php3?id_article=49
i think its interesting to take in count

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Could you perhaps give a brief breakdown as to what the article says for us unfortunate ones who don't speak Spanish?

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The title of the article is "The Take" does not reflect the reality of repatriated factories movement in Argentina"...

Basically it states that the film was very manipulative and distorted many things, like how the cermamics factory in Neuquén wasn't part of the repatriated factories movement, but was portrayed in the film as it was, ditto with the whole Brukman clothing factory... They also condemn the slogan "Occupied, Resist and Produce".. They state that they were also are a law abiding group, and do not condone violence in their movement or breaking laws. They also state that secretly tape recording the session with the Judge was illegal. They have some issue with some of the depictions of Lalo Paret, and that he was also kicked out from one of the factories for some of his chicaneries. They are also stating there is a difference between Repatriated Factories movement and factories "Under Workers Control" like the Ceramics Factory in Neuquén...


I really wished I saw this artlce before I saw this film at the NW Film Forum in Seattle in Dec. 2004, in which Avi Lewis took questions afterwards... I got into a huge argument with him, because I thought he was basically lying for dramatic effect about the chances of Carlos Menem being President again. The film in my opinion was incredibly disingenuous and that was before I read this above linked article.. They were also making stuff up about Argentina's modern history from Peron onwards....

The movie was also quite dated, because what Néstor Kirchner and Roberto Lavagna did with their negotiations with the IMF and bondholders saved the Argentinian people billions of dollars in repayments. They turn the tables from being at lenders's and bondholders mercy to say, accept our offer or don't get any money back.

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i am argentinian, and let me tell you that much of that article is biased, much more than the film could ever be.

those kind of factories are unconvenient to syndicalists, and therefore for our president, whose power depends a lot on agreements with union's bosses.


that article is clearly written by union members, since all it does is blame judges and praise our former president. not to worry! - his wife is in charge now.

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I have just watched the DVD and I disagree with you strongly.

It clearly states on the narration that different factories run

according to their own model. Some have equal pay others have scales

of pay and a management it depends on the situation and what the people

are comfortable with.

As for Menem it only showed what you would have seen on mainstream TV
in Argentina, big rallies, poll stats and the stage managed hype.He did
after all win the first round but bowed out when he knew who could not
win the second round.

The workers in the group that they were focused on were very happy
with the film.

Plus the film has interviews with workers from various factories.

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This article is written by the MNFR, a small right-wing network of "fabricas recuperadas" - clearly a biased organization. The much bigger leftist network MNER has a completely different standpoint on these issues. It's also completely absurd to claim that FaSinPat/Zanon and Brukman isn't part of the movement. I myself have been in Argentina doing interviews with workers in many of these factories - including spending three weeks with the workers of Zanon - and based on my experience I must say that the film paints a very accurate picture. If anything, it is moderate in its slogans compared to what the majority of workers say.

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