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Please reverse the cliche for me.


So this was a completely passable cliche of a movie with a good cast and some funny moments. Sure. But the biggest cliche in the film, I think, is the idea of the guy doing everything he can to change himself in order to be worthy of the girl's love. With all of the movies based on this concept, it got me to thinking: are there any movies out there in which the girl works to be worthy of the guy's love? Is our society so set on the idea that men are inferior neanderthals and that women can do no wrong in a relationship, and so never have any cause to feel remorse?

If anyone can suggest to me a movie like that, I think I'd like to see it.

-EdM.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

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How about any of the "ugly duckling" movies where a nerdy girl is suddenly made better and more appealing to men because she now styles her hair and wears makeup.

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It's less that "men are inferior neanderthals" and more about being coded in our genes. The strongest male chooses hid female(s). We as men are genetically engineered to be competing for females.

Since a woman can only be pregnant from one man at a time but one man can impregnate an almost infinite amount of women that kind of competition is not really existing in the female behavior. That's also responsible for the less aggressiveness and competitiveness in women in general.

I think humanity should be wiped out and then we can give evolution a second chance.

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@P-K-One

Oh,please---that's just one of the oldest,most tired-a** excuses men tell themselves to justify being whorish (the whorish dudes,that is.) Quit trying to front with that one. And,hell,yeah, women are and can be aggressive and competitive as hell--I've seen it with my own eyes---we just do it in a different way than men do---more undercover sometimes. I don't know what type of women you're around, but that's just not true--what you said about them being non-aggressive.

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Meowrrr!

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As somebody already said just take a look at all those "ugly duckling" movies. The worst of all is Grease wher Sandy isn't even ugly but he is such a weak character, he doesn't stand behind her, until she turns into what his friends(!!!) expect a girl to be: a sex object.

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"With all of the movies based on this concept, it got me to thinking: are there any movies out there in which the girl works to be worthy of the guy's love?"


You must not watch enough movies, because there's a hell of a lot of films out there like that and have been since the dawn of movies (especially back in the classic movie days) just look up some of them.

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... there's a hell of a lot of films out there like that and have been since the dawn of movies (especially back in the classic movie days) just look up some of them.
...which is code for ... I can't really think of one myself.

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I have to disagree slightly with the "guy changing himself to be worthy of the girl's love" bit. To me it was never about Dennis changing himself, more that he just needed to start seeing things through. At the end, he is still the same person, just a little more confident (i.e. he followed through on the race for himself and it gave him confidence to do the same in other aspects of his life). He always had the potential to do those things, but kept running away from his problems instead of facing them. Even when he starts the race, it isn't for Libby's love anymore; at that point, he thinks Libby is happy with Whit and going to marry him and that he has lost her. He runs the race for himself, which I think makes the movie different by the end.

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Grease. But Sandy had to try and be sluttier and skankier to attract her man, so I guess it's not the same, really. Really good point you made there, except for the nerdy girl rom-coms that transform the ugly duckling (who is never fat or ugly) into a princess and the captain of the foozeball team marries her. Then again, that's usually not her doing everything she can to improve herself, it's more like she gets a make-over from a sluttier friend.

You're right. It's a sexist hollywood we watch.

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Could you kinda argue Notting Hill? "im just a girl standing in front of a boy" not quite the same, but still

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